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Post by mouse on Jun 3, 2018 4:01:38 GMT -5
People do not have to prove opinions. If they state something they claim is a fact, it requires proof - but opinions are simply the way they see it. IMHO Well it is an opinion but I think my last post add significant proof. actually no it didn't... ...
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Post by mouse on Jun 3, 2018 4:06:29 GMT -5
what don't you understand about biology... the mothers body is her body... her bo0dy is host to the unborn.. it is her body that feeds the unborn and the mothers health is used to sustain the unborn .....the two are separate... yet one is relient on the other .... so yes the mothers body is hers and hers alone ....until such time as the unborn reaches the stage of being fully able to live out side the womb without any medical intervention an abortion will take place long before there is a fully functioning being..... who can survive without medical aid.....so yes the mothers body is hers and hers alone ....until such time as the unborn reaches the stage of being fully able to live out side the womb without any medical intervention an abortion will take place long before there is a fully functioning being..... who can survive without medical aid..... A new born baby cannot survive by itself however you are not allow to abandon it, you are required to intervene to preserve life.
idiot.... """"""so yes the mothers body is hers and hers alone ....until such time as the unborn reaches the stage of being fully able to live out side the womb without any medical intervention an abortion will take place long before there is a fully functioning being..... who can survive without medical aid....."""" what don't you understand about fully functioning out side the womb? surviving without out any medical intervention
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Post by mouse on Jun 3, 2018 4:08:42 GMT -5
I said I wanted proof...Cambodia is very much a religious country.. not your religion but religion non the less... so name the death camps of Cambodia and the death camps of China and the death camps of Russia ...I think you will find that what they had were actually work camps... rather than death camps.. where death ocured because of working and living conditions .. so death was secondry to work and punishment was the first aim...whereas with concentration death camps... death was actually the only intended out come when it comes to death camps the Christian UK and Christian Germany manage to set up some pretty notorious camps They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious, jailing priests etc..or worse.. Yes work camps, worked to death! What is the difference!
what?so the UK during the Boer war was Marxist as was Germany pre and during ww2.. you do talk some twaddle... were the romans Marxist when they sent prisoners to work in the salt mines or the galleys which were the Roman equivalent of a work camp
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Post by fretslider on Jun 3, 2018 4:34:50 GMT -5
no "thou shalt not kill" in atheismOn every level, a wholly ludicrous contention. One gets used to the old hackneyed stuff that the self-righteous piously religious zealots come out with. Others include... "I want to tell people about the virtues and benefits of my religion." Some days you claim to be Christian and on others you default back to islam. They're hardly the same. "I know from personal experience and prayer that God exists." How many times have we heard that old chestnut?! "Everyone worships something, whether it's money, power or God." An old favourite! Theists care just as much about those things which makes them polytheists. Oops. "The Bible says "Thou shalt not kill," I can't wait to hear the explanation for St Augustine's theory; Are you for or against? We've even had the hilarious The Bible says pi is 3The so-called sanctity of life is a myth, a human construct. In the Judeo Christian heritage life is treasured. In another faith death is definitely the more welcome guest. The simple fact is that we are, or should all be, equal under the laws that we elect representatives to make. The law forbids killing. End of. Actually the bibles estimate of pi is remarkable accurate, to two or 3 decimal places. The law may forbid killing but those who do not expect to be caught ignore the law, you can't ignore and all knowing God. The more atheist a society is the less live if respected, those atheist regimes had little respect for human life.
Hmm, Actually the bibles estimate of pi is remarkable accurate, to two or 3 decimal places. [ .00 ]? Ha ha ha ha ha The value of pi is given as 3 even though other cultures had already worked it out with greater precision. And 3 is not accurate to a single significant digit. pi to four significant digits = 3.1428 As any schoolboy knows, the significant digits come after the decimal point, not before. As for accuracy, well I wouldn't want to rely on your mensuration. The law may forbid killing but those who do not expect to be caught ignore the law, you can't ignore and all knowing God.Back to the "I know from personal experience and prayer that God exists." For F's sake. What a load of drivel. You might believe it, but you don't know anything of the sort. Marxism was not for the faint-hearted, you really had to believe in socialism. Atheists don't do belief. As you said.... They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious - kronks.
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Post by fretslider on Jun 3, 2018 4:40:57 GMT -5
I said I wanted proof...Cambodia is very much a religious country.. not your religion but religion non the less... so name the death camps of Cambodia and the death camps of China and the death camps of Russia ...I think you will find that what they had were actually work camps... rather than death camps.. where death ocured because of working and living conditions .. so death was secondry to work and punishment was the first aim...whereas with concentration death camps... death was actually the only intended out come when it comes to death camps the Christian UK and Christian Germany manage to set up some pretty notorious camps They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious, jailing priests etc..or worse.. Yes work camps, worked to death! What is the difference!
A very interesting reply They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious - kronks. So the next time we hear you say it was atheism and not marxism we'll know you're telling fibs.
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Post by mouse on Jun 3, 2018 4:57:08 GMT -5
They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious, jailing priests etc..or worse.. Yes work camps, worked to death! What is the difference!
A very interesting reply They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious - kronks. So the next time we hear you say it was atheism and not marxism we'll know you're telling fibs.
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Post by kronks on Jun 3, 2018 23:58:03 GMT -5
Well there are nearly 200,000 abortions in the UK in 2016, 696,271 live births, nobody believe 2 in 9 pregnancies require abortion for medial reasons.
and the breakdown of those abortions ?..... as I have said before in this thread there will be those who use abortion carelessly.. but that is no ones affair but theirs.. and regardless of that point punishing all women for the sake of one or two is really rather short sighted... any way the good news is .. the women of southern Ireland can now choose for therm selves and no longer have to trek over to the UK so rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrresulttttttttttttttttttttttt now all that is needed is for the male impregnators of Ireland to learn how to prevent a pregnancy and the young women of Ireland to use the morning after pill and the need for abortion would be lessened Giving birth is not a punishment. There are plenty of women who would like to but can't. All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adopt, or and indeed the father. Life should be considered precious not cheap and disposable, that is not a good route to go down. There is not real need for it these day, even being a single mother is considered perfectly OK. Life should be sacrosanct.
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Post by kronks on Jun 4, 2018 0:00:18 GMT -5
A new born baby cannot survive by itself however you are not allow to abandon it, you are required to intervene to preserve life.
idiot.... """"""so yes the mothers body is hers and hers alone ....until such time as the unborn reaches the stage of being fully able to live out side the womb without any medical intervention an abortion will take place long before there is a fully functioning being..... who can survive without medical aid....."""" what don't you understand about fully functioning out side the womb? surviving without out any medical intervention Feeding is a medical intervention, we feed old folks in old people homes.
The decision should be one for the child to make when it is old enough, not the mother.
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Post by kronks on Jun 4, 2018 0:09:42 GMT -5
They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious, jailing priests etc..or worse.. Yes work camps, worked to death! What is the difference!
what?so the UK during the Boer war was Marxist as was Germany pre and during ww2.. you do talk some twaddle... were the romans Marxist when they sent prisoners to work in the salt mines or the galleys which were the Roman equivalent of a work camp Millions died because of atheist ideology, which is proven not to work.
It is s selfish idealogy and you cant build society on selfishness.
There were millions killed in cambodia, I have seen the piles of skulls.
By far the biggest killers in history have been atheists as when you remove religion life is not longer sacred, it has no value other than to be exploited.
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Post by kronks on Jun 4, 2018 0:24:27 GMT -5
Actually the bibles estimate of pi is remarkable accurate, to two or 3 decimal places. The law may forbid killing but those who do not expect to be caught ignore the law, you can't ignore and all knowing God. The more atheist a society is the less live if respected, those atheist regimes had little respect for human life.
Hmm, Actually the bibles estimate of pi is remarkable accurate, to two or 3 decimal places. [ .00 ]? Ha ha ha ha ha The value of pi is given as 3 even though other cultures had already worked it out with greater precision. And 3 is not accurate to a single significant digit. pi to four significant digits = 3.1428 As any schoolboy knows, the significant digits come after the decimal point, not before. As for accuracy, well I wouldn't want to rely on your mensuration. The law may forbid killing but those who do not expect to be caught ignore the law, you can't ignore and all knowing God.Back to the "I know from personal experience and prayer that God exists." For F's sake. What a load of drivel. You might believe it, but you don't know anything of the sort. Marxism was not for the faint-hearted, you really had to believe in socialism. Atheists don't do belief. As you said.... They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious - kronks. No it is 3 and 1/7th
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Post by kronks on Jun 4, 2018 0:31:03 GMT -5
They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious, jailing priests etc..or worse.. Yes work camps, worked to death! What is the difference!
A very interesting reply They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious - kronks. So the next time we hear you say it was atheism and not marxism we'll know you're telling fibs. They are the same thing. All Marxists are atheist.
Marxism is the purest form of atheism as all are atheists, a very dangerous situation, even a few Christians will dramatically improve an atheist society by setting a good example, and folk will revert to Christianity given free will.
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Post by mouse on Jun 4, 2018 3:54:47 GMT -5
and the breakdown of those abortions ?..... as I have said before in this thread there will be those who use abortion carelessly.. but that is no ones affair but theirs.. and regardless of that point punishing all women for the sake of one or two is really rather short sighted... any way the good news is .. the women of southern Ireland can now choose for therm selves and no longer have to trek over to the UK so rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrresulttttttttttttttttttttttt now all that is needed is for the male impregnators of Ireland to learn how to prevent a pregnancy and the young women of Ireland to use the morning after pill and the need for abortion would be lessened Giving birth is not a punishment. There are plenty of women who would like to but can't. All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adopt, or and indeed the father. Life should be considered precious not cheap and disposable, that is not a good route to go down. There is not real need for it these day, even being a single mother is considered perfectly OK. Life should be sacrosanct.
giving birth to a baby unwanted for what ever reason is indeed a punishment ... and if you don't think women have been oubished in the oast for the sin of pregnancy then yet again you show great ignorance of social history... the mnagdalaine laundries the weork houses etc all places of punishmnent for unfortunate ;ppregnancies and yet no one ever thought to find the fathers and punish them... how very strange is that ,,, and the Christian communities with a few notable exceptions were full of hyporcritical cant and horror so giving birth was and has been used in the past as a punishment.. ....but only for the woman and the unfiortunate child as for you unfeeling and blythe comments of have the babies and have the child adopted.... its easy to see you once more haven't a clue about how cruel giving a baby up is.. no empathy amnd eve3n less understanding yes all babies should be wanted... but not all are life is neither sacred nor sacrosanct.. that is just the christian view .... but no one elses ... presious only to those involved[some times] life is many things from planned to accident to nothing more than a drunken fumble you see if liefe was so prescious so sacrecent then no child would go to bed hungry no child would be abused in any way... and beyond childhood no body have to beg for a living and no adult would abuse another adult.... funny how the unborn and incapable of life without medical help is more precious than the life of a 70-80-90 yrs old shiverying from cold
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Post by fretslider on Jun 4, 2018 3:56:46 GMT -5
Hmm, Actually the bibles estimate of pi is remarkable accurate, to two or 3 decimal places. [ .00 ]? Ha ha ha ha ha The value of pi is given as 3 even though other cultures had already worked it out with greater precision. And 3 is not accurate to a single significant digit. pi to four significant digits = 3.1428 As any schoolboy knows, the significant digits come after the decimal point, not before. As for accuracy, well I wouldn't want to rely on your mensuration. The law may forbid killing but those who do not expect to be caught ignore the law, you can't ignore and all knowing God.Back to the "I know from personal experience and prayer that God exists." For F's sake. What a load of drivel. You might believe it, but you don't know anything of the sort. Marxism was not for the faint-hearted, you really had to believe in socialism. Atheists don't do belief. As you said.... They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious - kronks. No it is 3 and 1/7th
Creation moments! I like that. Most amusing. The wall thickness of the vessel makes up the missing “one-seventh.”Then it follows that the wall thickness cannot vary proportionally. Where do you get off with this nonsense?
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Post by fretslider on Jun 4, 2018 4:06:27 GMT -5
A very interesting reply They are all marxist and of course marxism does not believe in religion and generally supresses the religious - kronks. So the next time we hear you say it was atheism and not marxism we'll know you're telling fibs. They are the same thing. All Marxists are atheist. Marxism is the purest form of atheism as all are atheists, a very dangerous situation, even a few Christians will dramatically improve an atheist society by setting a good example, and folk will revert to Christianity given free will.
They are the same thing. All Marxists are atheist.Kicking off with a syllogistic fallacy, well done! Now swap it for All muslims are terrorists. It's every bit as valid... Christian communism is a form of religious communism based on Christianity. It is a theological and political theory based upon the view that the teachings of Jesus Christ compel Christians to support communism as the ideal social system.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communismSeems that some Christians are Marxists!!! Marxism is the purest form of atheism As anyone, but yourself, knows, Marxism is a method of socioeconomic analysis. Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. Can you spot the difference? How about getting back to the subject of the thread rather than your irrational religious rants?
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Post by mouse on Jun 4, 2018 4:13:36 GMT -5
idiot.... """"""so yes the mothers body is hers and hers alone ....until such time as the unborn reaches the stage of being fully able to live out side the womb without any medical intervention an abortion will take place long before there is a fully functioning being..... who can survive without medical aid....."""" what don't you understand about fully functioning out side the womb? surviving without out any medical intervention Feeding is a medical intervention, we feed old folks in old people homes. The decision should be one for the child to make when it is old enough, not the mother. [/div
] feeding is not medical intervention and stop trying to be even more ignorant than you actually are ... medical intervention is breathing aids and intravenous dripps/medications/feeds in prem and baby units etc ie man made aids feeding is not a man made aid.. feeding is a 100% natural available via the mother
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