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Post by fretslider on Jun 4, 2018 4:16:28 GMT -5
and the breakdown of those abortions ?..... as I have said before in this thread there will be those who use abortion carelessly.. but that is no ones affair but theirs.. and regardless of that point punishing all women for the sake of one or two is really rather short sighted... any way the good news is .. the women of southern Ireland can now choose for therm selves and no longer have to trek over to the UK so rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrresulttttttttttttttttttttttt now all that is needed is for the male impregnators of Ireland to learn how to prevent a pregnancy and the young women of Ireland to use the morning after pill and the need for abortion would be lessened Giving birth is not a punishment. There are plenty of women who would like to but can't. All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adopt, or and indeed the father. Life should be considered precious not cheap and disposable, that is not a good route to go down. There is not real need for it these day, even being a single mother is considered perfectly OK. Life should be sacrosanct.
All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adoptIf only that were true. There were 72,670 children in care as of March 2017, 2,220 more than the year before.
In the same year, 4,350 children were adopted from care, down from 5,460 two years earlier.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41427209But it isn't.
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Post by fretslider on Jun 4, 2018 4:27:06 GMT -5
idiot.... """"""so yes the mothers body is hers and hers alone ....until such time as the unborn reaches the stage of being fully able to live out side the womb without any medical intervention an abortion will take place long before there is a fully functioning being..... who can survive without medical aid....."""" what don't you understand about fully functioning out side the womb? surviving without out any medical intervention Feeding is a medical intervention, we feed old folks in old people homes. The decision should be one for the child to make when it is old enough, not the mother.
Oh my. Feeding is a medical interventionI'm sure mouse is well aware of this, but you sir are most definitely not. It's called Breast Crawl. All mammals have this natural instinct. Every newborn, when placed on its mother's abdomen, soon after birth, has the ability to find its mother's breast all on its own and to decide when to take the first breastfeed. This is called the 'Breast Crawl'. It was first described in 1987 at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden (Widström et al, 1987). breastcrawl.org/science.shtmlYou were saying?
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Post by mouse on Jun 4, 2018 4:30:42 GMT -5
what?so the UK during the Boer war was Marxist as was Germany pre and during ww2.. you do talk some twaddle... were the romans Marxist when they sent prisoners to work in the salt mines or the galleys which were the Roman equivalent of a work camp Millions died because of atheist ideology, which is proven not to work. It is s selfish idealogy and you cant build society on selfishness. There were millions killed in cambodia, I have seen the piles of skulls. By far the biggest killers in history have been atheists as when you remove religion life is not longer sacred, it has no value other than to be exploited.
millions died in wars not of atheist ideology... so that is a non starter.. never heard of the Somme.. Ypres and other killing fieldswhere millions died ww1 ww2 ... stop talking nonsense T"""here were millions killed in cambodia, I have seen the piles of skulls""" so what.. there were four million hutu and tutsi killed not about any atheists ideoloy and piles of sculls are nothing special the islamics built several towers of skulls in Indiaand islamica as you know are very into god and religion 1 million people died in the 2nd English civil war,,, and they were good Christians on both sides... and infact the side which proclaimned its self the most Christian won... and guess what... after 20 yrs of cant and hypocracy those most Christian were thrown out... by far the biggest killers of history have been those who have had their god on their side another very important thing to remember is that Marxism and atheism didn't exist in the prior centuries ...so to talk of atheists as being the biggest killers in history....is to tell every one you have no idea what your talking about and absolutely no understanding of historicle events
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Post by mouse on Jun 4, 2018 4:37:20 GMT -5
I some times think I should start drawing pictures....I have never met any one before who trys to argue a point from a position of absolute ignorance of a subject.. and even when given some facts carries on regardless..
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Post by kronks on Jun 5, 2018 1:07:26 GMT -5
Giving birth is not a punishment. There are plenty of women who would like to but can't. All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adopt, or and indeed the father. Life should be considered precious not cheap and disposable, that is not a good route to go down. There is not real need for it these day, even being a single mother is considered perfectly OK. Life should be sacrosanct.
giving birth to a baby unwanted for what ever reason is indeed a punishment ... and if you don't think women have been oubished in the oast for the sin of pregnancy then yet again you show great ignorance of social history... the mnagdalaine laundries the weork houses etc all places of punishmnent for unfortunate ;ppregnancies and yet no one ever thought to find the fathers and punish them... how very strange is that ,,, and the Christian communities with a few notable exceptions were full of hyporcritical cant and horror so giving birth was and has been used in the past as a punishment.. ....but only for the woman and the unfiortunate child as for you unfeeling and blythe comments of have the babies and have the child adopted.... its easy to see you once more haven't a clue about how cruel giving a baby up is.. no empathy amnd eve3n less understanding yes all babies should be wanted... but not all are life is neither sacred nor sacrosanct.. that is just the christian view .... but no one elses ... presious only to those involved[some times] life is many things from planned to accident to nothing more than a drunken fumble you see if liefe was so prescious so sacrecent then no child would go to bed hungry no child would be abused in any way... and beyond childhood no body have to beg for a living and no adult would abuse another adult.... funny how the unborn and incapable of life without medical help is more precious than the life of a 70-80-90 yrs old shiverying from cold
In most case it is the woman choice to get pregnant.
The Christian church did their best to help that is why they had marriage.
The church also helped the poor, think got worse when the state took over.
If people followed christian principles the problems you mention would not exist.
Lets face it the women chose those irresponsible men in the first place!
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Post by kronks on Jun 5, 2018 1:40:28 GMT -5
Creation moments! I like that. Most amusing. The wall thickness of the vessel makes up the missing “one-seventh.”Then it follows that the wall thickness cannot vary proportionally. Where do you get off with this nonsense?
Well firstly it is not a definition of pi merely a description of a particular vessel built.
Now if you take a cubit to be 18 inch and a hand to be 4 inches you get pi value of 3.22 which is only 2.5% out which is very accurate given there were no real standardised cubit or hand measurements.
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Post by kronks on Jun 5, 2018 1:47:01 GMT -5
They are the same thing. All Marxists are atheist. Marxism is the purest form of atheism as all are atheists, a very dangerous situation, even a few Christians will dramatically improve an atheist society by setting a good example, and folk will revert to Christianity given free will.
They are the same thing. All Marxists are atheist.Kicking off with a syllogistic fallacy, well done! Now swap it for All muslims are terrorists. It's every bit as valid... Christian communism is a form of religious communism based on Christianity. It is a theological and political theory based upon the view that the teachings of Jesus Christ compel Christians to support communism as the ideal social system.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communismSeems that some Christians are Marxists!!! Marxism is the purest form of atheism As anyone, but yourself, knows, Marxism is a method of socioeconomic analysis. Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. Can you spot the difference? How about getting back to the subject of the thread rather than your irrational religious rants?
Atheism is at the core of Marxism, which is why it fails every time.
Seems crazy the made it that way as if they had left it as a christian beleive it would have worked.
Instead it attracted true atheists as leader and it thus failed.
No true Christian would lead a godless ideology.
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Post by kronks on Jun 5, 2018 1:49:49 GMT -5
Feeding is a medical intervention, we feed old folks in old people homes. The decision should be one for the child to make when it is old enough, not the mother. [/div
] feeding is not medical intervention and stop trying to be even more ignorant than you actually are ... medical intervention is breathing aids and intravenous dripps/medications/feeds in prem and baby units etc ie man made aids feeding is not a man made aid.. feeding is a 100% natural available via the mother
Yes it is, it is for someone who cannot breathe themselves.
Breathing is not a medical intervention by your rules however we medically interview for folk who cannot breath for themselves. So you're wrong.
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Post by kronks on Jun 5, 2018 2:03:26 GMT -5
Giving birth is not a punishment. There are plenty of women who would like to but can't. All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adopt, or and indeed the father. Life should be considered precious not cheap and disposable, that is not a good route to go down. There is not real need for it these day, even being a single mother is considered perfectly OK. Life should be sacrosanct.
All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adoptIf only that were true. There were 72,670 children in care as of March 2017, 2,220 more than the year before.
In the same year, 4,350 children were adopted from care, down from 5,460 two years earlier.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41427209But it isn't.
There are more people wanting to adopt babies than babies available.
It is a corrupt system and it boils down to pedophile MPs who want a steady stream of children to abuse, hence they make adoption almost impossible and then give the children to asian grooming gangs who turn them into prositutes for MPs to rape.
There is not need for any vetting as life in care is worse than the worse adoptee.
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Post by kronks on Jun 5, 2018 2:05:15 GMT -5
Feeding is a medical intervention, we feed old folks in old people homes. The decision should be one for the child to make when it is old enough, not the mother.
Oh my. Feeding is a medical interventionI'm sure mouse is well aware of this, but you sir are most definitely not. It's called Breast Crawl. All mammals have this natural instinct. Every newborn, when placed on its mother's abdomen, soon after birth, has the ability to find its mother's breast all on its own and to decide when to take the first breastfeed. This is called the 'Breast Crawl'. It was first described in 1987 at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden (Widström et al, 1987). breastcrawl.org/science.shtmlYou were saying? It is a medical intervention for a child cannot feed themselves.
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Post by kronks on Jun 5, 2018 2:08:04 GMT -5
Millions died because of atheist ideology, which is proven not to work. It is s selfish idealogy and you cant build society on selfishness. There were millions killed in cambodia, I have seen the piles of skulls. By far the biggest killers in history have been atheists as when you remove religion life is not longer sacred, it has no value other than to be exploited.
millions died in wars not of atheist ideology... so that is a non starter.. never heard of the Somme.. Ypres and other killing fieldswhere millions died ww1 ww2 ... stop talking nonsense T"""here were millions killed in cambodia, I have seen the piles of skulls""" so what.. there were four million hutu and tutsi killed not about any atheists ideoloy and piles of sculls are nothing special the islamics built several towers of skulls in Indiaand islamica as you know are very into god and religion 1 million people died in the 2nd English civil war,,, and they were good Christians on both sides... and infact the side which proclaimned its self the most Christian won... and guess what... after 20 yrs of cant and hypocracy those most Christian were thrown out... by far the biggest killers of history have been those who have had their god on their side another very important thing to remember is that Marxism and atheism didn't exist in the prior centuries ...so to talk of atheists as being the biggest killers in history....is to tell every one you have no idea what your talking about and absolutely no understanding of historicle events They are the biggest killers given the very short periods of time they have been in power, killing their own people in peace time!
Protestants are not real Christians as Catholics are!
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Post by mouse on Jun 5, 2018 2:57:16 GMT -5
giving birth to a baby unwanted for what ever reason is indeed a punishment ... and if you don't think women have been oubished in the oast for the sin of pregnancy then yet again you show great ignorance of social history... the mnagdalaine laundries the weork houses etc all places of punishmnent for unfortunate ;ppregnancies and yet no one ever thought to find the fathers and punish them... how very strange is that ,,, and the Christian communities with a few notable exceptions were full of hyporcritical cant and horror so giving birth was and has been used in the past as a punishment.. ....but only for the woman and the unfiortunate child as for you unfeeling and blythe comments of have the babies and have the child adopted.... its easy to see you once more haven't a clue about how cruel giving a baby up is.. no empathy amnd eve3n less understanding yes all babies should be wanted... but not all are life is neither sacred nor sacrosanct.. that is just the christian view .... but no one elses ... presious only to those involved[some times] life is many things from planned to accident to nothing more than a drunken fumble you see if liefe was so prescious so sacrecent then no child would go to bed hungry no child would be abused in any way... and beyond childhood no body have to beg for a living and no adult would abuse another adult.... funny how the unborn and incapable of life without medical help is more precious than the life of a 70-80-90 yrs old shiverying from cold In most case it is the woman choice to get pregnant. The Christian church did their best to help that is why they had marriage. The church also helped the poor, think got worse when the state took over. If people followed christian principles the problems you mention would not exist. Lets face it the women chose those irresponsible men in the first place!
oh lordy so its all the womans fault.. spoken like the no nothing you are ... not one of your points is valid... not one it was the male dominated Christian church and its preoccupation with sin that caused the problems .. as for this.. """"The church also helped the poor, think got worse when the state took over""" do you seriously try to understand the rubbish your write
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Post by mouse on Jun 5, 2018 3:05:00 GMT -5
feeding is not medical intervention and stop trying to be even more ignorant than you actually are ... medical intervention is breathing aids and intravenous dripps/medications/feeds in prem and baby units etc ie man made aids feeding is not a man made aid.. feeding is a 100% natural available via the mother Yes it is, it is for someone who cannot breathe themselves. Breathing is not a medical intervention by your rules however we medically interview for folk who cannot breath for themselves. So you're wrong. not my rules sunshine.. but actual facts...
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Post by mouse on Jun 5, 2018 3:12:39 GMT -5
millions died in wars not of atheist ideology... so that is a non starter.. never heard of the Somme.. Ypres and other killing fieldswhere millions died ww1 ww2 ... stop talking nonsense T"""here were millions killed in cambodia, I have seen the piles of skulls""" so what.. there were four million hutu and tutsi killed not about any atheists ideoloy and piles of sculls are nothing special the islamics built several towers of skulls in Indiaand islamica as you know are very into god and religion 1 million people died in the 2nd English civil war,,, and they were good Christians on both sides... and infact the side which proclaimned its self the most Christian won... and guess what... after 20 yrs of cant and hypocracy those most Christian were thrown out... by far the biggest killers of history have been those who have had their god on their side another very important thing to remember is that Marxism and atheism didn't exist in the prior centuries ...so to talk of atheists as being the biggest killers in history....is to tell every one you have no idea what your talking about and absolutely no understanding of historicle events They are the biggest killers given the very short periods of time they have been in power, killing their own people in peace time! Protestants are not real Christians as Catholics are!
ho ho ho .. wriggle away little man.. you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about ..or even what period your talking about as for this"" Protestants are not real Christians as Catholics are!"""... so where does that leave islam ? out on a limb while the tree is being chopped down ?.....silly little rel;igious bigot
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Post by mouse on Jun 5, 2018 3:17:35 GMT -5
All babies are wanted, of not by the mother by someone willing to adoptIf only that were true. There were 72,670 children in care as of March 2017, 2,220 more than the year before.
In the same year, 4,350 children were adopted from care, down from 5,460 two years earlier.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41427209But it isn't. There are more people wanting to adopt babies than babies available. It is a corrupt system and it boils down to pedophile MPs who want a steady stream of children to abuse, hence they make adoption almost impossible and then give the children to asian grooming gangs who turn them into prositutes for MPs to rape. There is not need for any vetting as life in care is worse than the worse adoptee.
wyhat !!!!!!! ?.. as the tin man sang... if I only had a brain.... where are getting this nonsense from your obviously quoting from some where...
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