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Post by kronks on May 30, 2018 1:05:16 GMT -5
You can do what you like with your own body once the child is born. Indeed if you want to kill yourself why not do it before get pregnant? DNA tests will prove the unborn child is not the mother's body rather someone else's. SO the "own body" argument is one big and obvious lie, isn't it? In fact anyone who does not know where their own body ends and someone else's starts should be locked up in a secure unit.
what on earth are you burbling on about now......what has DNA got to do with any thing
Because a bit lie is being spun women are saying it is their body but the reality is it isn't.
If it really was their own body it would be called suicide not abortion.
Thus a DNA test can show whether you have a suicide or an abortion.
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Post by kronks on May 30, 2018 1:11:46 GMT -5
Human are not animals, we do not live by animal standards. The article is garbage, no animal kills aborts it's own babies bar "humans". Even what you describe is not survival of the fittest and does not help the survival of the species, indeed it
works against that objective.
survival of the fittest is the best wat to ensure a strong species.... watering the species down is not and never has been a good idea
Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species.
Are we aiming to be rats? Or should I say wats???
There is no definition of "fittest" really
Humans are social beings an really it is the fittest society and a fit society does not murder the weak and defenceless, it sends out a bad social message with will ultimately cause social degeneration, turnig humans into savages, something which is not particularly good for the species.
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Post by mouse on May 30, 2018 4:25:24 GMT -5
survival of the fittest is the best wat to ensure a strong species.... watering the species down is not and never has been a good idea Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species. Are we aiming to be rats? Or should I say wats??? There is no definition of "fittest" really Humans are social beings an really it is the fittest society and a fit society does not murder the weak and defenceless, it sends out a bad social message with will ultimately cause social degeneration, turnig humans into savages, something which is not particularly good for the species.
of course a defintition of fittest....you see yet again you have shown to just don't get what is being discussed Kronks wrote"""Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species""" a strong species is not just about physical strength... survival of the fittest is an inclusive term and takes all abilities ... it takes more than physical strength for a species to be strong as for degeneration ... degeneration of of a species is not about turning in to savages but the weakening both the mental and physicality of the line by allowing weaknesses to enter or continue in that line nature is not concerned with sending out messages... but nature will have its way because the weak in nature die out as they do in all animal species .... whereas where man is involved he not only tolerates weak... he in many cultures allows it to breed unlimited.. but again nature will interfere with a natural cull as has happened so many times before and reduced the population....
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Post by mouse on May 30, 2018 4:26:24 GMT -5
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Post by fretslider on May 30, 2018 5:06:42 GMT -5
survival of the fittest is the best wat to ensure a strong species.... watering the species down is not and never has been a good idea Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species. Are we aiming to be rats? Or should I say wats??? There is no definition of "fittest" really Humans are social beings an really it is the fittest society and a fit society does not murder the weak and defenceless, it sends out a bad social message with will ultimately cause social degeneration, turnig humans into savages, something which is not particularly good for the species.
Amazing! You were quite emphatic: Humans are not animalsI pointed out how incredibly wrong you were - yet again, it's so boring, and you declined to reply. And here you are now declaring: we should be aiming for a good speciesIt's an interesting choice of word on your part - species the principal taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens. So why did you say humans are not animals? Why the sudden change of mind? Could it be that you learned... no Muslim-majority country bans abortion. Fact.
Ovicide is the analogous destruction of eggs. The practice has been observed in many species throughout the animal kingdom, especially primates (primate infanticide). Filial infanticide occurs when a parent kills its own offspring. This sometimes involves consumption of the young themselves, which is termed filial cannibalism. The behavior is widespread in fishes, and is seen in terrestrial animals as well. Human infanticide has been recorded in almost every culture. I suspect you did.
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Post by kronks on May 31, 2018 1:29:23 GMT -5
Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species. Are we aiming to be rats? Or should I say wats??? There is no definition of "fittest" really Humans are social beings an really it is the fittest society and a fit society does not murder the weak and defenceless, it sends out a bad social message with will ultimately cause social degeneration, turnig humans into savages, something which is not particularly good for the species.
of course a defintition of fittest....you see yet again you have shown to just don't get what is being discussed Kronks wrote"""Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species""" a strong species is not just about physical strength... survival of the fittest is an inclusive term and takes all abilities ... it takes more than physical strength for a species to be strong as for degeneration ... degeneration of of a species is not about turning in to savages but the weakening both the mental and physicality of the line by allowing weaknesses to enter or continue in that line nature is not concerned with sending out messages... but nature will have its way because the weak in nature die out as they do in all animal species .... whereas where man is involved he not only tolerates weak... he in many cultures allows it to breed unlimited.. but again nature will interfere with a natural cull as has happened so many times before and reduced the population....
The strength of the human species is in it's morality. Morality is a key sign of mental strength. Societies with weak morals will not tend to fare well. We see that is the failure of atheist societies time and time again. The human population continues to grow where morals are strong.
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Post by kronks on May 31, 2018 1:31:07 GMT -5
Yes if they kill their own body it is a suicide, it they kill the baby it is abortion. Key difference. A DNA test will show which is which is you have any doubts.
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Post by kronks on May 31, 2018 1:39:30 GMT -5
Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species. Are we aiming to be rats? Or should I say wats??? There is no definition of "fittest" really Humans are social beings an really it is the fittest society and a fit society does not murder the weak and defenceless, it sends out a bad social message with will ultimately cause social degeneration, turnig humans into savages, something which is not particularly good for the species.
Amazing! You were quite emphatic: Humans are not animalsI pointed out how incredibly wrong you were - yet again, it's so boring, and you declined to reply. And here you are now declaring: we should be aiming for a good speciesIt's an interesting choice of word on your part - species the principal taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens. So why did you say humans are not animals? Why the sudden change of mind? Could it be that you learned... no Muslim-majority country bans abortion. Fact.
Ovicide is the analogous destruction of eggs. The practice has been observed in many species throughout the animal kingdom, especially primates (primate infanticide). Filial infanticide occurs when a parent kills its own offspring. This sometimes involves consumption of the young themselves, which is termed filial cannibalism. The behavior is widespread in fishes, and is seen in terrestrial animals as well. Human infanticide has been recorded in almost every culture. I suspect you did. Human are not animals we have a distinction, animals are lower order immoral beings. Some human can be described as animals though if they exhibit animal behaviour.
WE are not animals and should not look to them for moral guidance, that is regressive an insane idea.
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Post by mouse on May 31, 2018 3:00:49 GMT -5
of course a defintition of fittest....you see yet again you have shown to just don't get what is being discussed Kronks wrote"""Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species""" a strong species is not just about physical strength... survival of the fittest is an inclusive term and takes all abilities ... it takes more than physical strength for a species to be strong as for degeneration ... degeneration of of a species is not about turning in to savages but the weakening both the mental and physicality of the line by allowing weaknesses to enter or continue in that line nature is not concerned with sending out messages... but nature will have its way because the weak in nature die out as they do in all animal species .... whereas where man is involved he not only tolerates weak... he in many cultures allows it to breed unlimited.. but again nature will interfere with a natural cull as has happened so many times before and reduced the population.... The strength of the human species is in it's morality. Morality is a key sign of mental strength. Societies with weak morals will not tend to fare well. We see that is the failure of atheist societies time and time again. The human population continues to grow where morals are strong.
bollox and poppycock... moral standards change and vary from society to society...and era to era still banging on about atheist societies...boring you've fl9oged that to death and you still don't know what your talking about
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Post by mouse on May 31, 2018 3:19:35 GMT -5
Yes if they kill their own body it is a suicide, it they kill the baby it is abortion. Key difference. A DNA test will show which is which is you have any doubts.
I still haven't the foggiest idea what you mean apart from stating the obvious ie a person kills them selves its suicide...and getting rid of what is not yet a being is called abortion why would a DNA test be relevant ....unless you wish to hold the males whose sperm is responsible ... my word that would be novel wouldn't it ... men having to accept responsibility for unwanted babies
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Post by fretslider on May 31, 2018 3:23:12 GMT -5
Amazing! You were quite emphatic: Humans are not animalsI pointed out how incredibly wrong you were - yet again, it's so boring, and you declined to reply. And here you are now declaring: we should be aiming for a good speciesIt's an interesting choice of word on your part - species the principal taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens. So why did you say humans are not animals? Why the sudden change of mind? Could it be that you learned... no Muslim-majority country bans abortion. Fact.
Ovicide is the analogous destruction of eggs. The practice has been observed in many species throughout the animal kingdom, especially primates (primate infanticide). Filial infanticide occurs when a parent kills its own offspring. This sometimes involves consumption of the young themselves, which is termed filial cannibalism. The behavior is widespread in fishes, and is seen in terrestrial animals as well. Human infanticide has been recorded in almost every culture. I suspect you did. Human are not animals we have a distinction, animals are lower order immoral beings. Some human can be described as animals though if they exhibit animal behaviour. WE are not animals and should not look to them for moral guidance, that is regressive an insane idea.
And yet humans are animals. ...humans share a number of similarities with other animals. These similarities and differences are revealed through our genetic make-up, the ways our bodies are constructed and our behaviour. They help us to understand our place in the animal kingdom by allowing us to work out the evolutionary relationships between ourselves and other animals. australianmuseum.net.au/humans-are-mammalsDo you eat and sh1t? Have you reproduced? Do humans suckle their young? What a numpty.
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Post by fretslider on May 31, 2018 3:27:03 GMT -5
Yes if they kill their own body it is a suicide, it they kill the baby it is abortion. Key difference. A DNA test will show which is which is you have any doubts.
I still haven't the foggiest idea what you mean apart from stating the obvious ie a person kills them selves its suicide...and getting rid of what is not yet a being is called abortion why would a DNA test be relevant ....unless you wish to hold the males whose sperm is responsible ... my word that would be novel wouldn't it ... men having to accept responsibility for unwanted babies I still haven't the foggiest idea Don't worry, neither has he. The mother has ~25% of her genetic makeup from her granparents. Her child [ a generation later] also has ~25% of its genetic makeup from its grandparents. No two siblings have the same genome- except identical twins. Each one is different, chalk and cheese.
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Post by mouse on May 31, 2018 3:30:06 GMT -5
Amazing! You were quite emphatic: Humans are not animalsI pointed out how incredibly wrong you were - yet again, it's so boring, and you declined to reply. And here you are now declaring: we should be aiming for a good speciesIt's an interesting choice of word on your part - species the principal taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens. So why did you say humans are not animals? Why the sudden change of mind? Could it be that you learned... no Muslim-majority country bans abortion. Fact.
Ovicide is the analogous destruction of eggs. The practice has been observed in many species throughout the animal kingdom, especially primates (primate infanticide). Filial infanticide occurs when a parent kills its own offspring. This sometimes involves consumption of the young themselves, which is termed filial cannibalism. The behavior is widespread in fishes, and is seen in terrestrial animals as well. Human infanticide has been recorded in almost every culture. I suspect you did. Human are not animals we have a distinction, animals are lower order immoral beings. Some human can be described as animals though if they exhibit animal behaviour. WE are not animals and should not look to them for moral guidance, that is regressive an insane idea.
the human being is an animal with the same physical make up as animals.. infact many animals are more moral that human beings ... after all how many animals kill for pleasure and how many animals kill because another of its species doesn't look the same ... many animals are superior to what passes for man... animals never had an inquisition or concentration and death camps... animals don't go out on the lash and end up kicking some ones head in... animals don't wait for Fridays and Saturday nights so they can rut in public animals actually have an awful lot going for them
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Post by fretslider on May 31, 2018 3:41:22 GMT -5
Yes if they kill their own body it is a suicide, it they kill the baby it is abortion. Key difference. A DNA test will show which is which is you have any doubts.
A DNA test will show which is whichWhy would you need a DNA test for a mother and/or baby? I can understand questions on paternity requiring a DNA test, but what you're saying is plain silly.
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Post by fretslider on May 31, 2018 3:45:04 GMT -5
of course a defintition of fittest....you see yet again you have shown to just don't get what is being discussed Kronks wrote"""Well we should be aiming for a good species not a strong species""" a strong species is not just about physical strength... survival of the fittest is an inclusive term and takes all abilities ... it takes more than physical strength for a species to be strong as for degeneration ... degeneration of of a species is not about turning in to savages but the weakening both the mental and physicality of the line by allowing weaknesses to enter or continue in that line nature is not concerned with sending out messages... but nature will have its way because the weak in nature die out as they do in all animal species .... whereas where man is involved he not only tolerates weak... he in many cultures allows it to breed unlimited.. but again nature will interfere with a natural cull as has happened so many times before and reduced the population.... The strength of the human species is in it's morality. Morality is a key sign of mental strength. Societies with weak morals will not tend to fare well. We see that is the failure of atheist societies time and time again. The human population continues to grow where morals are strong.
Would that be islamic morality, by any chance?
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