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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 20:07:16 GMT -5
Why do you suppose that women submit to patriarchal males and don't defend other women? I find that it happens a lot in work, school, and in society in general.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 2:44:48 GMT -5
Why do you suppose that women submit to patriarchal males and don't defend other women? I find that it happens a lot in work, school, and in society in general. examples? |
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Post by kronks on Oct 19, 2016 18:11:25 GMT -5
I don't know if women fo that, I am not sure what a patriarchal male is, it is a rather vague term.
AS Chef says we really need an example to know what we are refering to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 18:45:09 GMT -5
I don't know if women fo that, I am not sure what a patriarchal male is, it is a rather vague term. AS Chef says we really need an example to know what we are refering to. I'll return to this one at another time.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 19:59:13 GMT -5
I don't know if women fo that, I am not sure what a patriarchal male is, it is a rather vague term. AS Chef says we really need an example to know what we are refering to. I'll return to this one at another time. I'm looking forward to your examples...when I started out 46 years ago, men in the office held power and women deferred to them. I remember playing dumb because that was the thing to do but like the cigarette ad said ""You've Come A Long Way, Baby"  |
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Post by kronks on Oct 19, 2016 21:47:08 GMT -5
I'll return to this one at another time. I'm looking forward to your examples...when I started out 46 years ago, men in the office held power and women deferred to them. I remember playing dumb because that was the thing to do but like the cigarette ad said ""You've Come A Long Way, Baby" The world was a lot more equal 46 years ago. The reality is we have seen a huge growth in inequality since then and of course 50% of those adversly affected by that huge growth in inequality have been women. The average women is worse off relatively speaking as is the average man. So much for "equality" eh? One big con. You have not come a long way you have fallen a long way, unless you are in the top 1%. This is for the USA but it is similar for the UK.  Maybe you should have stuck to playnig dumb? |
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Post by kronks on Oct 19, 2016 21:53:04 GMT -5
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Post by kronks on Oct 19, 2016 22:01:03 GMT -5
It is called divide and conquer.
Divide the people and make them all worse off so that a few can be massively better off.
Why you have been figting the battle of the sexes you have been robbed.
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Post by beth on Oct 19, 2016 22:16:04 GMT -5
Why do you suppose that women submit to patriarchal males and don't defend other women? I find that it happens a lot in work, school, and in society in general. I'm not sure I've run into many patriarchal males. I've always gotten along very well with males I've worked with (mostly on an equal basis) and in general. In school, I remember 4 disagreeable college professors - 2 male and 2 female. They were equally obnoxious to everyone. One I remember from a work position was on the board of directors at a company I worked for. He brought a large German Shepherd on a short leash to board meetings .. especially when he knew only 2 or 3 admins would attend, and always sat on the same side of the table as the employee members. It was totally obvious he was attempting to intimidate. I quit that job directly because of Wally and his evil ways ... and yet, this wasn't really patriarchal .. more sociopathic, in my opinion ... out to appear abusive to males and females alike. Except for that particular incident, I don't believe I've ever felt intimidated by males. OTOH, I have scars from a few female bullies who wanted what I had.  As a result, I'm still a little wary of females of the same general type. |
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Post by beth on Oct 19, 2016 22:17:30 GMT -5
It is called divide and conquer. Divide the people and make them all worse off so that a few can be massively better off. Why you have been figting the battle of the sexes you have been robbed. Kronks, I don't think you're addressing the topic of the thread. |
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Post by kronks on Oct 19, 2016 22:29:12 GMT -5
It is called divide and conquer. Divide the people and make them all worse off so that a few can be massively better off. Why you have been figting the battle of the sexes you have been robbed. Kronks, I don't think you're addressing the topic of the thread. Maybe not but I am not sure what the topiic is, I think maybe we need an example to clarify? It would ensure we are all singnig from the same song sheet I think. Hence I am doing the best I can within the constraints of my limited abilities. It does not appear anyone in particular is submitted to me at the moment but that is just little ole me I guess Maybe I should stomp my hoof a bit more I dunno!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 22:39:32 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to your examples...when I started out 46 years ago, men in the office held power and women deferred to them. I remember playing dumb because that was the thing to do but like the cigarette ad said ""You've Come A Long Way, Baby" The world was a lot more equal 46 years ago. The reality is we have seen a huge growth in inequality since then and of course 50% of those adversly affected by that huge growth in inequality have been women. The average women is worse off relatively speaking as is the average man. So much for "equality" eh? One big con. You have not come a long way you have fallen a long way, unless you are in the top 1%. This is for the USA but it is similar for the UK. Maybe you should have stuck to playnig dumb? women are much better off than they were in 1970...trust me, I've lived it along with Mouse & Jessie....I think they are the only other ladies on the board old enough to have been working in that year. |
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Post by kronks on Oct 19, 2016 22:39:59 GMT -5
What about men who submit to paticachial males?
Do they get a say?
I guess I would be off topic once again.
My apologies!!
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Post by beth on Oct 19, 2016 22:51:55 GMT -5
What about men who submit to paticachial males? Do they get a say? I guess I would be off topic once again. My apologies!! Maybe. Has this happened to you? Correction .. I'm going to leave them here. Maybe things will straighten themselves out and it's much easier on me. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 19, 2016 23:15:56 GMT -5
Why do you suppose that women submit to patriarchal males and don't defend other women? I find that it happens a lot in work, school, and in society in general. I'm not sure I've run into many patriarchal males. I've always gotten along very well with males I've worked with (mostly on an equal basis) and in general. In school, I remember 4 disagreeable college professors - 2 male and 2 female. They were equally obnoxious to everyone. One I remember from a work position was on the board of directors at a company I worked for. He brought a large German Shepherd on a short leash to board meetings .. especially when he knew only 2 or 3 admins would attend, and always sat on the same side of the table as the employee members. It was totally obvious he was attempting to intimidate. I quit that job directly because of Wally and his evil ways ... and yet, this wasn't really patriarchal .. more sociopathic, in my opinion ... out to appear abusive to males and females alike. Except for that particular incident, I don't believe I've ever felt intimidated by males. OTOH, I have scars from a few female bullies who wanted what I had. As a result, I'm still a little wary of females of the same general type. Hi Beth, Maybe the Professer only thought you might pet his dog and so give him the opportunity to get to know you better. I think that is called, being friendly? |
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As a result, I'm still a little wary of females of the same general type.