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Post by mouse on Jan 13, 2018 3:43:56 GMT -5
what ever you say.. easy to see you don't understand spirituality ...and spiritual moments ...you do not have to believe in some god to have these experiences.. and music is a known for for its powers A feeling of elation has nothing to do with spirituality. The word spirituality is derived from the fact that there are spiritual realms in existence. who mentioned elation
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Post by mouse on Jan 13, 2018 3:49:00 GMT -5
dream on... .. it was written the earth was flat it was said the moon was made of green cheese it was said there are little men on mars it is said where the rainbow ends is a pot of gold likewise leprechauns know where the gold is flying reindeer a great many things are said...many of them in jest others no more than fairy tales ...and just because some one says something it doesn't mean anything ... some thing isn't real until it is proven by one means or another ... and what other unusual creatures are you speaking about ? Perhaps Unicorns and fire breathing Dragons, I'm sure there are many more that you can think up. well there you are lots of myths and stories.. all of which some one has believed in at some point of human history ....
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Post by mouse on Jan 13, 2018 3:58:55 GMT -5
this isn't about your experiences but what you wrote ..and the words you used... what you have written is classic... with an excuse built in for a fail... as for your experiences well originally you did say you could prove them...now you realise you have no proof Don't keep going on about it, it is becoming monotonous. I meant what I said.!!! but sometimes you need the co operation of others. No big deal.!!! PS: Have you tried meditating?c I did send you the instructions as to how it could be done. You obviously spend a little time each day until something DOES occur. That is ofcourse if you are sincere and really want proof. I'm beginning to think that it is all a ruse and you are just texting for the sake of using up your spare time? SLwrote""You obviously spend a little time each day until something DOES occur.""ah yes mind over matter and thought control....even thought transference ... works on the principle that if you concentrate hard enough you can convince your self of xyz sl wrote""Don't keep going on about it, it is becoming monotonous.""very true sl wrote""" I did send you the instructions as to how it could be done.""" and I told you I was totally uninterested....
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Post by mouse on Jan 13, 2018 4:04:17 GMT -5
what ever you say.. easy to see you don't understand spirituality ...and spiritual moments ...you do not have to believe in some god to have these experiences.. and music is a known for for its powers A word is usuallly derived from something innately tangible so how could it mean a special moment if there isn't a specific association attached and believed. That is nonsense for sure.!!! as I said... you do not understand spirituality...and it has nothing to do with gods or spirits
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 13, 2018 6:29:45 GMT -5
A word is usuallly derived from something innately tangible so how could it mean a special moment if there isn't a specific association attached and believed. That is nonsense for sure.!!! as I said... you do not understand spirituality...and it has nothing to do with gods or spirits Spirit gave rise to the word spiritual and Spirit is God !!! If you don't believe that God exists, you can't use the word spiritual in the way that you are doing, it is misleading.
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Post by mouse on Jan 13, 2018 6:58:15 GMT -5
as I said... you do not understand spirituality...and it has nothing to do with gods or spirits Spirit gave rise to the word spiritual and Spirit is God !!! If you don't believe that God exists, you can't use the word spiritual in the way that you are doing, it is misleading. no it isn't misleading at all.. you don't understand it.. but that doesn't make it misleading ...we are human beings and we can all have deeply spiritual spiritual happenings/occasions etc etc even athiests ... Understanding Spiritual Moments Hugh Gash St Patricks College Dublin Ireland “""""Spirituality can be distinguished from religion since the first refers to an immediate, intrinsic and direct experience whereas the second alludes to extrinsic, institutional and conventional religiosity as a mechanism of social affiliation and control” (Moncayo, 2005 web reference)""". Understanding Spiritual Moments (PDF Download Available). Available from: www.researchgate.net/publication/237295442_Understanding_Spiritual_Moments [accessed Jan 13 2018] many people have spiritual homes... again its nothing to do with God... context is every thing we drink spirits whisky/brandy he gave a spirited account of himself they spirited the body away they believed the spirits of dead men haunted the woods ... etc etc .. a whole set of differering uses of the word spirits...not one of them to do with god or religion .. so it is perfectly reasonable to use the word spirit in a variety of contexts without being mis;eading in the slightest
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 14, 2018 8:41:37 GMT -5
[belie source="/post/235279/thread" author=" Scottish Lassie" timestamp="1515842985"]Spirit gave rise to the word spiritual and Spirit is God !!! If you don't believe that God exists, you can't use the word spiritual in the way that you are doing, it is misleading. no it isn't misleading at all.. you don't understand it.. but that doesn't make it misleading ...we are human beings and we can all have deeply spiritual spiritual happenings/occasions etc etc even athiests ... Understanding Spiritual Moments Hugh Gash St Patricks College Dublin Ireland “""""Spirituality can be distinguished from religion since the first refers to an immediate, intrinsic and direct experience whereas the second alludes to extrinsic, institutional and conventional religiosity as a mechanism of social affiliation and control” (Moncayo, 2005 web reference)""". Understanding Spiritual Moments (PDF Download Available). Available from: www.researchgate.net/publication/237295442_Understanding_Spiritual_Moments [accessed Jan 13 2018] many people have spiritual homes... again its nothing to do with God... context is every thing we drink spirits whisky/brandy he gave a spirited account of himself they spirited the body away they believed the spirits of dead men haunted the woods ... etc etc .. a whole set of differering uses of the word spirits...not one of them to do with god or religion .. so it is .perfectly reasonable to use the word spirit in a variety of contexts without being mis;eading in the slightest [/quote] What I said still goes, the word spiritual comes from the fact that God is Spirit. As you don't believe in Soul, you can't use it in that context either that dead spirits haunted the woods, because according to you there are no dead spirits. As for the other terms, it is well known that the English language has words that are spelt the same but are different in meaning. That takes care of spirits (alcohol) and the fact that a person can be spirited away. The word spiritual therefore is still from the fact that God is Spirit.
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Post by mouse on Jan 14, 2018 8:51:17 GMT -5
I can use it any way I wish and where context is understood
but obviously you didn't read the post.. so here it is again .. it explains perfectly what the differences are .. and yes there are differences
“""""Spirituality can be distinguished from religion since the first refers to an immediate, intrinsic and direct experience whereas the second alludes to extrinsic, institutional and conventional religiosity as a mechanism of social affiliation and control” (Moncayo, 2005 web reference)""".
then I found this on the differences """"Knowing how spirituality differs from religion
Although religion and spirituality are sometimes used interchangeably, they really indicate two different aspects of the human experience. You might say that spirituality is the mystical face of religion.""""
or this from Cambridge.org spiritual adjective uk /ˈspɪr.ɪ.tʃu.əl/ us /ˈspɪr.ə.tʃu.əl/ relating to deep feelings and beliefs, especially religious beliefs:
Traditional ways of life fulfilled both economic and spiritual needs.""
get that especially but not necessarily religious beliefes
or theres this from the Oxford dictionary
"""".1 The non-physical part of a person regarded as their true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation.
.2 The non-physical part of a person manifested as an apparition after their death; a g
.3 A supernatural being.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 14, 2018 9:12:58 GMT -5
Don't keep going on about it, it is becoming monotonous. I meant what I said.!!! but sometimes you need the co operation of others. No big deal.!!! PS: Have you tried meditating?c I did send you the instructions as to how it could be done. You obviously spend a little time each day until something DOES occur. That is ofcourse if you are sincere and really want proof. I'm beginning to think that it is all a ruse and you are just texting for the sake of using up your spare time? SLwrote""You obviously spend a little time each day until something DOES occur.""ah yes mind over matter and thought control....even thought transference ... works on the principle that if you concentrate hard enough you can convince your self of xyz sl wrote""Don't keep going on about it, it is becoming monotonous.""very true sl wrote""" I did send you the instructions as to how it could be done.""" and I told you I was totally uninterested.... So don't keep asking for proof of the experiences that I happen to relate. As God knows the intentions of every Human being then you must be sincere if you really want to get proof. I hope I don't have to repeat this again.!!!
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Post by mouse on Jan 14, 2018 9:18:46 GMT -5
SLwrote""You obviously spend a little time each day until something DOES occur.""ah yes mind over matter and thought control....even thought transference ... works on the principle that if you concentrate hard enough you can convince your self of xyz sl wrote""Don't keep going on about it, it is becoming monotonous.""very true sl wrote""" I did send you the instructions as to how it could be done.""" and I told you I was totally uninterested.... So don't keep asking for proof of the experiences that I happen to relate. As God knows the intentions of every Human being then you must be sincere if you really want to get proof. I hope I don't have to repeat this again.!!! I most eagerly hope you dont repeat it all over again how ever if you post and alledge weird happenings ... you will be asked for proof.. because that is a very normal human reaction... you've already said you consider dreams to be equal to real life happenings
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 14, 2018 9:23:26 GMT -5
I can use it any way I wish and where context is understood but obviously you didn't read the post.. so here it is again .. it explains perfectly what the differences are .. and yes there are differences “""""Spirituality can be distinguished from religion since the first refers to an immediate, intrinsic and direct experience whereas the second alludes to extrinsic, institutional and conventional religiosity as a mechanism of social affiliation and control” (Moncayo, 2005 web reference)""". then I found this on the differences """"Knowing how spirituality differs from religion Although religion and spirituality are sometimes used interchangeably, they really indicate two different aspects of the human experience. You might say that spirituality is the mystical face of religion."""" or this from Cambridge.org spiritual adjective uk /ˈspɪr.ɪ.tʃu.əl/ us /ˈspɪr.ə.tʃu.əl/ relating to deep feelings and beliefs, especially religious beliefs: Traditional ways of life fulfilled both economic and spiritual needs."" get that especially but not necessarily religious beliefes or theres this from the Oxford dictionary """".1 The non-physical part of a person regarded as their true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation. .2 The non-physical part of a person manifested as an apparition after their death; a g .3 A supernatural being. Since when have you believed in a non physical part of yourself. As far as all of you are concerned, there is only the physical body, nothing else. and that rots in the grave. End of story.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 14, 2018 9:35:39 GMT -5
I KNOW that it is true.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 14, 2018 9:46:29 GMT -5
I most eagerly hope you dont repeat it all over again how ever if you post and alledge weird happenings ... you will be asked for proof.. because that is a very normal human reaction... you've already said you consider dreams to be equal to real life happenings I KNOW it happens to be true!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 14, 2018 20:07:51 GMT -5
So don't keep asking for proof of the experiences that I happen to relate. As God knows the intentions of every Human being then you must be sincere if you really want to get proof. I hope I don't have to repeat this again.!!! I most eagerly hope you dont repeat it all over again how ever if you post and alledge weird happenings ... you will be asked for proof.. because that is a very normal human reaction... you've already said you consider dreams to be equal to real life happenings It is obvious to me that you are a long way off from being ready to meet any spiritual master.I gave you the means of how to accomplish that, but you are not interested. I guess you are not sincere about acquiring proof. Have a nice day.!!!
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Post by mouse on Jan 15, 2018 4:16:29 GMT -5
I can use it any way I wish and where context is understood but obviously you didn't read the post.. so here it is again .. it explains perfectly what the differences are .. and yes there are differences “""""Spirituality can be distinguished from religion since the first refers to an immediate, intrinsic and direct experience whereas the second alludes to extrinsic, institutional and conventional religiosity as a mechanism of social affiliation and control” (Moncayo, 2005 web reference)""". then I found this on the differences """"Knowing how spirituality differs from religion Although religion and spirituality are sometimes used interchangeably, they really indicate two different aspects of the human experience. You might say that spirituality is the mystical face of religion."""" or this from Cambridge.org spiritual adjective uk /ˈspɪr.ɪ.tʃu.əl/ us /ˈspɪr.ə.tʃu.əl/ relating to deep feelings and beliefs, especially religious beliefs: Traditional ways of life fulfilled both economic and spiritual needs."" get that especially but not necessarily religious beliefes or theres this from the Oxford dictionary """".1 The non-physical part of a person regarded as their true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation. .2 The non-physical part of a person manifested as an apparition after their death; a g .3 A supernatural being. Since when have you believed in a non physical part of yourself. As far as all of you are concerned, there is only the physical body, nothing else. and that rots in the grave. End of story. so we are back to dictionaries being wrong again... never mind...
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