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Post by mouse on May 18, 2017 5:03:42 GMT -5
Men an tol... Men an tol... Men an tol, You are barking up the wrong tree in all counts. I love Christianity, Jesus is a man after my own heart. He came to set the people staight, that was His mission in life. I have just moved on. There is more to the Bible than meets the eye and a lot of the things that happened to Jesus have been understood and experienced by ECKISTS that as far as I know, have not been experienced by any other denomination. Jesus is purportedly said to have gone to India and preached there which is probably why they are grest believers in reincarnation. I know that it is true, from my own experiences. In speaking about ECKANKAR I am just passing along information that I know from my experiences is true. Just for the simple reason that it is different from what most people think is the norm.Chatting about trivialities rather bores me so I'm not going to be talking in great depth about what I had for dinner etc. etc. I do not get angry as you. have wrongly suggested, why should there be a need for that. We surely understand that people are going to have different viewpoints on all subjects, so it is inevitable that people will disagree. I am not a bit phased by that. I do believe that you have an agenda which is not necessarily hidden from me. Why else would you want to warn a person of the so called pitfalls of ECKANKAR? the minute that he/she shows interest. I am certainly nor buying the explsnations that you have proffered. Had you not had an agenda of your own you would have let the person find out for themselves by maybe directing them to the ECKANKAR organization. Paul Twitchell was searching for spiritual answers which is what I also have been doing. I am forever grateful for his efforts, because when I discovered ECKANKAR it fully explained my experiences, Most Christian Ministers can only tell you that it is a mystery and to just have faith. You are also warned that if you are a disbeliever in God or you stop believing for any reason, you will be DAMNED. We in ECKANKAR believe that spiritual growth can be stifled by the fixed attitude that we hold. We must first believe in God to start on our journey. SL wrote "" I love Christianity, Jesus is a man after my own heart. He came to set the people staight, that was His mission in life. I have just moved on.""" oh my word.. no yoyu don't love Christianity.. if you did you wouldn't abuse it SL WROTE"""He came to set the people staight, that was His mission in life. I have just moved on""" mm so you have moved on ..gone one better than Christ SL wrote ""things that happened to Jesus have been understood and experienced by ECKISTS "" amazing SL wrote ""Jesus is purportedly said to have gone to India""" he is also supposed to have visited England ... the chances of him visiting either country is very fanciful SL wrote ""Chatting about trivialities rather bores me so I'm not going to be talking in great depth about what I had for dinner etc. etc."" this message board caters for the many aspect of life that people are interested in politics/theatre/books/and even family though not in great detail/animals and yes food .. ..[though I suppose that its hard to involve ECK in what you ate for dinner] most posters live well rounded lives and it is reflected in the variety of topics available.... seems to me if you are pretty much a one trick pony.. if you cannot talk about yourself or ek you don want to know SL wrote ""I do not get angry as you. have wrongly suggested""" actually you do.. you may not be aware[although I think you are aware]the whole tone of a post alters ..you may not want to admit it and you are certainly not happy because an alternate view of eck was posted ...and proceeded to call Men names
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 18, 2017 5:40:08 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, it is obvious that you are steeped in worldy thinking, the tone of my post may have changed and rightly so. But that doesn't mean to say my blood pressure has risen one iota. I am far from stupid and I post what I believe to be the truth
Giving way to anger leads to things being said that you may later live to regret, I know exactly what I am saying at all times, so there is no post that I will regret ever having posted. Unless I have truly made a genuine mistake and then I will apologize.
All of life is not contained in the Bible and there are other ways that Christ's teachings are to be found. When I say I have moved on from reading the Bible that doesn't mean I have moved on from God's word. You are so slow to learn
I think it is time for you to stop picking me to bits. I am being enlightened by the Holy Spirit which is mentioned in the Bible as a means of gaining God's wisdom. And I will continue in that way despite what you say.
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Post by fretslider on May 18, 2017 6:05:20 GMT -5
Oh dear. According to Eckankar, the Mahanta is a "living manifestation of God". It seems like kronks you've failed too. Atheists don't believe. I think you've been told this quite a few times now. Hi Fretslider, I thought that role was reserved for Jesus. Harold Klemp's title is: The Mahanta, The Living ECK Master, Sri Harold Klemp. He is God's messenger and the religious Leader of ECKANKAR the Religion of Light and Sound. He guides all ECKists (members) towards their goal of spiritual evolvement whilst making their way back to the GodHead in order to be a Co-worker with God, in other words doing what it takes to help keep things running smoothly in whatever capacity is best for you. Happily, I have no such confusions to worry about.
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Post by fretslider on May 18, 2017 6:09:38 GMT -5
Cults always end up the same. Try not to do a Jonestown or a Waco. Hi Fretslider, I don't remember if I answered this post or not, but I am answering it now. If people take the time to reply to a post they deserve an answer. Anyway I don't think there is any chance of what happened in Jonestown or Waco ever happening in regards to ECKANKAR as we already have access to the realms that constitute the realms of God via Soul Travel. Sorry to disappoint you.!!! You did. You must have been off one one of your trips.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 18, 2017 7:51:43 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, I thought that role was reserved for Jesus. Harold Klemp's title is: The Mahanta, The Living ECK Master, Sri Harold Klemp. He is God's messenger and the religious Leader of ECKANKAR the Religion of Light and Sound. He guides all ECKists (members) towards their goal of spiritual evolvement whilst making their way back to the GodHead in order to be a Co-worker with God, in other words doing what it takes to help keep things running smoothly in whatever capacity is best for you. Happily, I have no such confusions to worry about. Hi Fretslider, we will always be doing something no matter who we are doing it for, so there is no real confusion. The only difference is that you will always be doing it on this Earth plane.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 18, 2017 7:59:17 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, I don't remember if I answered this post or not, but I am answering it now. If people take the time to reply to a post they deserve an answer. Anyway I don't think there is any chance of what happened in Jonestown or Waco ever happening in regards to ECKANKAR as we already have access to the realms that constitute the realms of God via Soul Travel. Sorry to disappoint you.!!! You did. You must have been off on one of your trips. Hi Fretslider, You could be right, I often seemingly fall asleep in the mddle of posting and waken up to see that my battery needs chargingj.
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Post by mouse on May 18, 2017 8:21:10 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, it is obvious that you are steeped in worldy thinking, the tone of my post may have changed and rightly so. But that doesn't mean to say my blood pressure has risen one iota. I am far from stupid and I post what I believe to be the truth Giving way to anger leads to things being said that you may later live to regret, I know exactly what I am saying at all times, so there is no post that I will regret ever having posted. Unless I have truly made a genuine mistake and then I will apologize. cAll of life is not contained in the Bible and there are other ways that Christ's teachings are to be found. When I say I have moved on from reading the Bible that doesn't mean I have moved on from God's word. You are so slow to learn I think it is time for you to stop picking me to bits. I am being enlightened by the Holy Spirit which is mentioned in the Bible as a means of gaining God's wisdom. And I will continue in that way despite what you say. your blood pressure is not undiscussion..I can only reiterate the tone of your postings changes when you are irked/anoyed .. anger doesn't necessarily lead to things being said .. SL wrote """All of life is not contained in the Bible and there are other ways that Christ's teachings are to be found""" of course all life is not contained in the bible ..life went on before and after Christs life time ""there are other ways that Christ's teachings are to be found"" where ? you cannot drop that in and not be expected to give and answer SL wrote ""I think it is time for you to stop picking me to bits""i am not picking YOU to bits I am replying to your allegations/assertions/posts...that's what forums and message boards are about.. postings and answering posts or do you expect to make asserions and allegations etc and not be questioned and not be challenged eg such as this statement by you """there are other ways that Christ's teachings are to be found"" SL wrote ""I am being enlightened by the Holy Spirit which is mentioned in the Bible as a means of gaining God's wisdom. And I will continue in that way despite what you say.""" so the fact is you do not want to be challenged or held to account .. and you are free to continue as much as you like to allege to.. make allegations and to make Christianity nothing more than a tool for your soap box if that's what you want..nothing more than a soap box for the cult of ECK. then I too am out and its all yours......Amen [though you may have to explain to kronks what Amen means him not liking languages an all]
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 18, 2017 8:34:02 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, so now you know what I am thinking, better than I know myself. I think you are in need of a long rest. Setting the people straight encompasses many things. One was preaching to the lost, the other was performing miracles by healing people, raising someone from the dead, feeding the multitude with a small amount of loaves and fish, changing water to wine then dying on the cross as a sacrifice for the sins of the people.
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Post by beth on May 18, 2017 10:02:17 GMT -5
Carry on for the time being but don't start new Divine Evolution threads .. work with the ones you have.
Lassie, please PM me and tell me why you need so many.
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Post by fretslider on May 18, 2017 13:37:14 GMT -5
Happily, I have no such confusions to worry about. Hi Fretslider, we will always be doing something no matter who we are doing it for, so there is no real confusion. The only difference is that you will always be doing it on this Earth plane. Translated.... I wish I had a grip on reality.Don't beat yourself up about it. You're free to believe, why don't you just get on with it and leave us in peace?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 18, 2017 20:18:10 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, we will always be doing something no matter who we are doing it for, so there is no real confusion. The only difference is that you will always be doing it on this Earth plane. Translated.... I wish I had a grip on reality.Don't beat yourself up about it. You're free to believe, why don't you just get on with it and leave us in peace? Hi Fretslider, I thought you were in peace.!!! It seems that you only welcome Atheists onboard, would I be right? Why should someone's viewpoint trouble you. A person should perhaps be interested in gaining fresh info that might give a different slant to life so that you might see things with new eyes. What are you afraid of? I think you and others have been stringing me along, pretending to want proof that there is something else besides this corporate world, and when I do so to the best of my ability you now want to cut me off. I don't think you ever genuinely want evidence, you are quite happy with what you have whether it is the truth or not.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 21:44:32 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, I don't remember if I answered this post or not, but I am answering it now. If people take the time to reply to a post they deserve an answer. Anyway I don't think there is any chance of what happened in Jonestown or Waco ever happening in regards to ECKANKAR as we already have access to the realms that constitute the realms of God via Soul Travel. Sorry to disappoint you.!!! You did. You must have been off one one of your trips. Probably with Lenny.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 18, 2017 22:29:25 GMT -5
You did. You must have been off one one of your trips. Probably with Lenny. Hi Chefmate, I will take that as your intention to making light of it. But there is nothing much wrong with Lenny, He was electrocuted and whilst in that condition found himself aware that he was somewhere else other than the planet Earth. According to him, it was an incredibly beautiful place. And he was encompassed by peace, love, and bliss. What more could you ask for? He met a man with a long white beard and wearing a long white robe. He thought the person must be God, but found out much later that it was an ECK Master. This is the very Master who appeared in my lounge room when I first started attending ECKANKAR meetings. I saw him quite plainly then he just disappeared. I described him the next time I went to a meeting and I was told who he was. Apparently, this Master looks after the needs of their pupils (chelas) when they are going to become a member in the future. As you progress spiritually, a chela moves on to another Master. I have seen quite a few over the years.
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Post by fretslider on May 19, 2017 5:45:36 GMT -5
Translated.... I wish I had a grip on reality.Don't beat yourself up about it. You're free to believe, why don't you just get on with it and leave us in peace? Hi Fretslider, I thought you were in peace.!!! It seems that you only welcome Atheists onboard, would I be right? Why should someone's viewpoint trouble you. A person should perhaps be interested in gaining fresh info that might give a different slant to life so that you might see things with new eyes. What are you afraid of? I think you and others have been stringing me along, pretending to want proof that there is something else besides this corporate world, and when I do so to the best of my ability you now want to cut me off. I don't think you ever genuinely want evidence, you are quite happy with what you have whether it is the truth or not. pretending to want proof that there is something else besides this corporate world, and when I do so to the best of my ability you now want to cut me off.We've done this quite a few times, now. You haven't got any proof.
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Post by mouse on May 19, 2017 6:05:17 GMT -5
Translated.... I wish I had a grip on reality.Don't beat yourself up about it. You're free to believe, why don't you just get on with it and leave us in peace? Hi Fretslider, I thought you were in peace.!!! It seems that you only welcome Atheists onboard, would I be right? Why should someone's viewpoint trouble you. A person should perhaps be interested in gaining fresh info that might give a different slant to life so that you might see things with new eyes. What are you afraid of? I think you and others have been stringing me along, pretending to want proof that there is something else besides this corporate world, and when I do so to the best of my ability you now want to cut me off. I don't think you ever genuinely want evidence, you are quite happy with what you have whether it is the truth or not. your view point doesn't trouble anyone.. whose afraid and of what..your reading into posts things which are not there.. no body has strung you along.. you were asked for proof... you have ben unable to produce that proof .. and no one has tried to cut you off.. that's is your victimhood raising its ugly little head wittering on about ECK AND YOUR EXPERIENCES IS not PROOF
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