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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 13, 2017 23:31:05 GMT -5
This often happens with people who are about to die. The transition is very gradual, and you know that they are in good hands. The person who leaves this plane generally does not miss it. There's no reason to, once you realize the continuity of life.
When we leave this physical plane permanently...if we are spiritually advanced to any degree at all...there need be no concern for this life on Earth, for we have moved into a far greater expression of it. Our Divine evolution is a wonderful thing.
In most cases, as we make the transition into the heavenly worlds, we are totally unconcerned about it. As bright as the sunlight appears to our eyes, this physical world is a dark, small, mean place compared to the other worlds. You will see settings similar to those on Earth, but larger and with a lot more light.
There will be a lightness and spaciousness about the body that you wear there. Soul is once again wearing a body, but it is on a higher plane. It is so natural that you don't give it a second thought. You are always greeted by someone you know and love.
For people who love truth and love God, it is a smooth change. The key really is love.
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Post by mouse on May 14, 2017 4:48:57 GMT -5
your making an awful lot of statements you cannot prove
what of those who have no faith and yet are also quite unafraid of dying?
""""this physical world is a dark, small, mean place compared to the other worlds""" your comparison is meaningless as there is nothing to compare only words and considerable assumption amnd if what you say is true then there has to be an opposite to this wonderous place.. so what of the opposite the place where the dark and evil go
and of course this place of which you speak is in direct opposition to what Christ promised in his father place[heaven] of many mansions and gathering around the throne of the almighty
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 14, 2017 5:11:08 GMT -5
your making an awful lot of statements you cannot prove what of those who have no faith and yet are also quite unafraid of dying? """"this physical world is a dark, small, mean place compared to the other worlds""" your comparison is meaningless as there is nothing to compare only words and considerable assumption amnd if what you say is true then there has to be an opposite to this wonderous place.. so what of the opposite the place where the dark and evil go and of course this place of which you speak is in direct opposition to what Christ promised in his father place[heaven] of many mansions and gathering around the throne of the almighty Hi Mouse, That place will be reached eventually. In the meantime, as we climb ' Jacobs Ladder' ( figuratively ) each plane becomes more refined. The Earth plane is the coarsest, so even though we may think it is beautiful, each plane rising towards the true spiritual planes is ever more beautiful. I should know because I have visited them as I have evolved spiritually. BTW I'm not the one who has made the statements. It is from a booklet written by the Spiritual Leader of ECKANKAR.
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Post by mouse on May 14, 2017 5:45:26 GMT -5
as far as I am concerned its your delusion...and if that makes you happy so be it...
but its miles away from Christianity and at odds with christs words and teachings ...
the Christian God is a very much simpler and more inclusive thinking... no step by step guide needed.. no ticking boxes
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Post by men an tol on May 14, 2017 10:37:45 GMT -5
as far as I am concerned its your delusion...and if that makes you happy so be it... but its miles away from Christianity and at odds with christs words and teachings ... the Christian God is a very much simpler and more inclusive thinking... no step by step guide needed.. no ticking boxes Mouse, the leadership of ECKANKAR is as follows: Paul Twitchell founded ECKANKAR in 1965 and was its first leader. Darwin Gross became the ECKANKAR leader in 1971 with the death of Paul Twitchell. In 1981 Darwin Gross appointed Harold Klemp as the present spiritual leader, known as the Mahanta or the Living ECK Master. For those interested, the history of this transition of leadership of ECKANKAR, as well as the controversies around their writings, make for interesting reading.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 14, 2017 20:23:02 GMT -5
your making an awful lot of statements you cannot prove what of those who have no faith and yet are also quite unafraid of dying? """"this physical world is a dark, small, mean place compared to the other worlds""" your comparison is meaningless as there is nothing to compare only words and considerable assumption amnd if what you say is true then there has to be an opposite to this wonderous place.. so what of the opposite the place where the dark and evil go and of course this place of which you speak is in direct opposition to what Christ promised in his father place[heaven] of many mansions and gathering around the throne of the almighty Hi Mouse, what is everyone going to be doing besides being gathered around the throne looking at God with His son by His side.?
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Post by mouse on May 16, 2017 3:21:41 GMT -5
I see you don't get the Trinity.. of the three in one
"""Hi Mouse, what is everyone going to be doing besides being gathered around the throne looking at God with His son by His side.?"""
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 16, 2017 4:10:11 GMT -5
I see you don't get the Trinity.. of the three in one """Hi Mouse, what is everyone going to be doing besides being gathered around the throne looking at God with His son by His side.?""" Hi Mouse, The 'Trinity' is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, what's that got to do with what you are going to be doing when you are gathered around the throne?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 16, 2017 4:46:48 GMT -5
as far as I am concerned its your delusion...and if that makes you happy so be it... but its miles away from Christianity and at odds with christs words and teachings ... the Christian God is a very much simpler and more inclusive thinking... no step by step guide needed.. no ticking boxes Mouse, the leadership of ECKANKAR is as follows: Paul Twitchell founded ECKANKAR in 1965 and was its first leader. Darwin Gross became the ECKANKAR leader in 1971 with the death of Paul Twitchell. In 1981 Darwin Gross appointed Harold Klemp as the present spiritual leader, known as the Mahanta or the Living ECK Master. For those interested, the history of this transition of leadership of ECKANKAR, as well as the controversies around their writings, make for interesting reading. Hi Men an tol, More interesting is What ECKANKAR stands for. Mahantas go all the way back in time to the very first Mahanta. The human beings who served as the Mahanta in their time, are still alive in the spiritual realms. The more recent ones are still teaching, and ECKists today visit them in their Soul bodies. Members of ECKANKAR believe in God and follow the Holy Spirit, their spiritual leader the present Mahanta and Living ECK Master, is God's messenger. He is Sri Harold Klemp the wayshower.. In other words he is always in touch with all ECKists in the inner realms.ECKANKAR promotes the love of God..
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 16, 2017 4:56:23 GMT -5
as far as I am concerned its your delusion...and if that makes you happy so be it... but its miles away from Christianity and at odds with christs words and teachings ... the Christian God is a very much simpler and more inclusive thinking... no step by step guide needed.. no ticking boxes Hi Mouse, All is Love, and we who love God, know that.!!!
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Post by mouse on May 16, 2017 5:30:25 GMT -5
I see you don't get the Trinity.. of the three in one """Hi Mouse, what is everyone going to be doing besides being gathered around the throne looking at God with His son by His side.?""" Hi Mouse, The 'Trinity' is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, what's that got to do with what you are going to be doing when you are gathered around the throne? I was quoting you"" with his son by his side"" there will be no son by his side the Trinity is a three in one ..indivisible one from the other
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Post by mouse on May 16, 2017 5:38:06 GMT -5
as far as I am concerned its your delusion...and if that makes you happy so be it... but its miles away from Christianity and at odds with christs words and teachings ... the Christian God is a very much simpler and more inclusive thinking... no step by step guide needed.. no ticking boxes Hi Mouse, All is Love, and we who love God, know that.!!! what sort of answer is that ?.. just meaningless twaddle but remember ...""" that I am the lord thy God and will not find him guiltless that taketh my /his name in vain""" I can only repeat that some the stuff you come out with has no basis in Christs teachings or words
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Post by fretslider on May 16, 2017 7:12:25 GMT -5
Mouse, the leadership of ECKANKAR is as follows: Paul Twitchell founded ECKANKAR in 1965 and was its first leader. Darwin Gross became the ECKANKAR leader in 1971 with the death of Paul Twitchell. In 1981 Darwin Gross appointed Harold Klemp as the present spiritual leader, known as the Mahanta or the Living ECK Master. For those interested, the history of this transition of leadership of ECKANKAR, as well as the controversies around their writings, make for interesting reading. Hi Men an tol, More interesting is What ECKANKAR stands for. Mahantas go all the way back in time to the very first Mahanta. The human beings who served as the Mahanta in their time, are still alive in the spiritual realms. The more recent ones are still teaching, and ECKists today visit them in their Soul bodies. Members of ECKANKAR believe in God and follow the Holy Spirit, their spiritual leader the present Mahanta and Living ECK Master, is God's messenger. He is Sri Harold Klemp the wayshower.. In other words he is always in touch with all ECKists in the inner realms.ECKANKAR promotes the love of God.. Cults always end up the same. Try not to do a Jonestown or a Waco.
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Post by fretslider on May 16, 2017 7:40:17 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, The 'Trinity' is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, what's that got to do with what you are going to be doing when you are gathered around the throne? I was quoting you"" with his son by his side"" there will be no son by his side the Trinity is a three in one ..indivisible one from the other The 'Trinity'.... is clearly a case of multiple personality disorder.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 16, 2017 8:23:43 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, The 'Trinity' is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, what's that got to do with what you are going to be doing when you are gathered around the throne? I was quoting you"" with his son by his side"" there will be no son by his side the Trinity is a three in one ..indivisible one from the other Hi Mouse, something doesn't sound right to me. Jesus was a man and he definitely said that He would be sitting on the right hand of God. He did notsay that he would be sitting on the right hand of Himself, so He couldnot have believed that He was God. He even spoke about God as being His Father. I have never really given it much thought. Did Jesus lie then? I think He also said that He would send the Comforter. Who was the Comforter? I guess we could also ask who is the Holy Ghost? It doesn't really make sense to me.
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