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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 26, 2017 7:21:11 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, As I am a member of ECKANKAR, I believe that because of the law of Karma each person is occupying the exact place in life that they are meant to be at any moment in time.
They themselves have chosen this, as they are the ones that have made the decisions that they put into action. For every action there is a consequence. I am mindful of this so I try not to rock the boat. I have a spiritual life to think about, and that is very important to me.
You mention Hitler and Japanese invaders on the Trump thread which ofcourse you shouldn't have, I couldn't answer your post because of that, so here I am answering it on this thread.
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Post by ladylinda on Feb 26, 2017 19:13:32 GMT -5
Well, to me the idea that the people who were murdered by the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and other scumbags somehow 'deserved' their 'punishment' because of 'sins in a past life' is just so morally repugnant it disgusts me.
I literally want to vomit when I hear that sort of smug, callous immorality being voiced.
God wants us to love one another; karma is yet another excuse for people to justify cruelty.
The whole idea literally makes me feel sick to my stomach.
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Post by mouse on Feb 27, 2017 8:21:46 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, As I am a member of ECKANKAR, I believe that because of the law of Karma each person is occupying the exact place in life that they are meant to be at any moment in time. They themselves have chosen this, as they are the ones that have made the decisions that they put into action. For every action there is a consequence. I am mindful of this so I try not to rock the boat. I have a spiritual life to think about, and that is very important to me. You mention Hitler and Japanese invaders on the Trump thread which ofcourse you shouldn't have, I couldn't answer your post because of that, so here I am answering it on this thread. they were mentioned only in the context of illustrastion of a point |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 28, 2017 0:48:44 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, As I am a member of ECKANKAR, I believe that because of the law of Karma each person is occupying the exact place in life that they are meant to be at any moment in time. They themselves have chosen this, as they are the ones that have made the decisions that they put into action. For every action there is a consequence. I am mindful of this so I try not to rock the boat. I have a spiritual life to think about, and that is very important to me. You mention Hitler and Japanese invaders on the Trump thread which ofcourse you shouldn't have, I couldn't answer your post because of that, so here I am answering it on this thread. they were mentioned only in the context of illustrastion of a point Hi Mouse, the discussion is meant to fit the thread, so we were meant to be discussing Trump directly, there was no mention of Trump in that post. SORRY.!!! |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 28, 2017 1:31:19 GMT -5
Well, to me the idea that the people who were murdered by the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and other scumbags somehow 'deserved' their 'punishment' because of 'sins in a past life' is just so morally repugnant it disgusts me. I literally want to vomit when I hear that sort of smug, callous immorality being voiced. God wants us to love one another; karma is yet another excuse for people to justify cruelty. The whole idea literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. Hi LadyLinda, So.a person doesn't Reap what they Sow, is that what you are saying? I didn't create the law, I only believe that it is true. It is not the physical body that will end up in The Kingdom of God, it is Soul (Spirit) the physical body rots in the grave because it is composed of the elements of the earth. You have to keep your emotions in check when it is needed. A wise person doesn't froth at the mouth just because they feel like it. There has to be some decorum in life, didn't you know? The day will come when each of us will stand individually before the Supreme Judge and what will you have to say then? But I hated Hitler and his cronies because they did this and they did that, I have a right to hate. God is not judging Hitler at that moment in time, it is you that is being judged, and the hatred in your heart will be plain to see. God is a God of Love, surely you have heard of that expression. You and everyone else will be judged on what is in your heart, and to me, that appears to be hate.!!! Unless you have love in your heart, you certainly won't be hanging out with God, that's for sure.!!! The closer you get to a glowing fireside, the warmer you feel. The same applies in regard to loving God, as Jesus said: " the way that you treat another human being, is exactly how you are treating me. Therefore, if you profess to love Jesus, then it means that you automatically love Mankind. Not necessarily their deeds. Each person will be judged on their own merits.!!! |
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Post by mouse on Feb 28, 2017 6:02:38 GMT -5
"" Therefore, if you profess to love Jesus, then it means that you automatically love Mankind. Not necessarily their deeds. Each person will be judged on their own merits.!!!"""
any one who doesn't hate evil.cruelty is sick in the head
and any one who thinks that the deeds of pol pot..stalin etc are acceptable and that those men should not be hated because their victim were simply on the receiving of karma due to prior lives is also sick in the head
""""Therefore, if you profess to love Jesus, then it means that you automatically love Mankind. Not necessarily their deeds. Each person will be judged on their own merits.!!!"""
that is arrant nonsence for didn't Jesus say that it were better for those who hurt children..it was better they be thrown into a mill pond and drowned before they were allowed to hurt children ?
indeed there may be judgement day when all will answer for their sins
but remember the words render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasors[spelling] and unto God that which is Gods......a very clear instruction that the laws of man/the state have a place as well as the laws of God
the way some mangle and twist the thinking of religions and are used as excuses for evil doings is appalling ..
and to excuse bestiality and inhumanity in its lowest forms as an excuse to do nothing is a travesty and a mockery of any advances humanity has made
mankind cannot be separated from the dark deeds of mankind....any more than it can be separated from the glorious deeds of mankind ..each leaves a legacy for following generations
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Post by ladylinda on Mar 2, 2017 17:27:21 GMT -5
I've written a poem which I'll post tomorrow which answers your (to me) disgusting, immoral, callous and anti-life ideas on 'karma,' Scottish Lassie.
In the meantime I can't disagree with a single word dear Mouse has said!
Lovely to have you back again by the way!
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Post by ladylinda on Mar 3, 2017 13:24:28 GMT -5
On being asked why I grieve about the past:
you ask me why I cry over the past:
I'll answer you in verse.
from the beginning of time
tears have been shed
so many murders, rapes,
so much enslavement and oppression;
how can it be wrong to weep
for those who suffered and died?
if my heart bleeds, it shows that I'm alive;
what clockwork robot lurks within your own?
never to feel pain for the sorrow of others:
such callousness is beyond all belief
long after you and I have gone,
even the stars above will go on weeping,
and the hard rain falling upon the earth
is the tears of God our Heavenly Father
'how many ears must one man have
before he can hear people cry?'
how many tears must be shed before
they thaw the iceberg of an uncaring heart?
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Post by mouse on Mar 4, 2017 7:34:36 GMT -5
I've written a poem which I'll post tomorrow which answers your (to me) disgusting, immoral, callous and anti-life ideas on 'karma,' Scottish Lassie. In the meantime I can't disagree with a single word dear Mouse has said! Lovely to have you back again by the way! thankyou...hope all is well with you and the babe ..no so long to go now |
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Post by ladylinda on Mar 4, 2017 15:59:29 GMT -5
Thanks, Mouse. So far touch wood!
Yes, June isn't far away now!
(There are times I wish men could have babies too!)
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2017 5:38:19 GMT -5
Thanks, Mouse. So far touch wood! Yes, June isn't far away now! (There are times I wish men could have babies too!) lordy...  .I remember that thinking |
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Post by ladylinda on Mar 6, 2017 20:10:00 GMT -5
By the way, the word 'karma' simply means 'luck' in Hindi (just as 'bok' does in Romanes).
And of course by definition 'luck' isn't anything to do with merit!
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Post by Dex on Oct 1, 2017 12:37:17 GMT -5
I was talking with someone about this the other day and she said something that stayed with me. "We either have to believe in Karma or there are an awfully lot of coincidences to try to make sense of." The someone was my mother-in-law, a smart, level headed woman. It gave me cause to wonder. We were talking about a businessman who had run up the rent on an apartment building he owns so that some of his poorer tenants will have to move. He had told my MIL that he didn't have to but wanted to attract some more affluent people. It is causing a big hardship on the people who have to move. An unkindness. MIL says he will reap his just rewards, starting with some things that have happened to him in the past week. IS it just coincidence? |
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Post by Sysop3 on Oct 1, 2017 19:44:02 GMT -5
A lot of older people believe in Karma.
I wonder if that's because they've watched it play out.
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Post by mouse on Oct 2, 2017 5:08:11 GMT -5
By the way, the word 'karma' simply means 'luck' in Hindi (just as 'bok' does in Romanes). And of course by definition 'luck' isn't anything to do with merit! and luck has nothing to do with God/religion but its the usual isn't it.. a word taken away from its actual meaning and turned into some thing else |
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