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Post by mouse on Oct 2, 2017 5:14:33 GMT -5
A lot of older people believe in Karma. I wonder if that's because they've watched it play out. in English rather than using the word Karma... its what comes around goes around or they get their cumuppence or god works in mysterious ways and yes some times it does play out not always unfortunately
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 2, 2017 10:18:07 GMT -5
A lot of older people believe in Karma. I wonder if that's because they've watched it play out. I think it's probably because they've become so disillusioned that they've fallen for wishful thinking. My experience of life and human history is that bad deeds all too often go unpunished and good ones unrewarded. If karma was true that wouldn't happen.
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Post by mouse on Oct 3, 2017 5:20:40 GMT -5
very true Lin if only the wrong doers did get punished..but they don't which is why human beings came up with laws to try to ensure the wicked were punished... however we have reached a stage where virtually no one is punished except the victims and every excuse in the book is used to prevent punishing the criminals
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 3:06:26 GMT -5
Well, to me the idea that the people who were murdered by the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and other scumbags somehow 'deserved' their 'punishment' because of 'sins in a past life' is just so morally repugnant it disgusts me. I literally want to vomit when I hear that sort of smug, callous immorality being voiced. God wants us to love one another; karma is yet another excuse for people to justify cruelty. The whole idea literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. Hi LadyLinda, It is neither smug nor callous but a fact. None of us have been Angels, as we are all living under the influence of the negative and positive force, in other words, vibrations. Were you miss goody two shoes when you were young? I didn't do any of the things that you did, does that mean that I am a better person than you? No it doesn't.!!! We are all Soul and made in the image of God, so Soul must be good. It is ignorance that is responsible for the mistakes that are made whilst in the flesh, and these mistakes add up. Should we blame someone else for what we have done or should we shoulder the blame for our own ignorance?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 3:12:08 GMT -5
A lot of older people believe in Karma. I wonder if that's because they've watched it play out. in English rather than using the word Karma... its what comes around goes around or they get their cumuppence or god works in mysterious ways and yes some times it does play out not always unfortunately Hi Mouse, Karma always plays out, but at God's time. It will happen at a time best suited for the person that needs to learn a particular lesson, not necessarily for your benefit.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 3:24:48 GMT -5
very true Lin if only the wrong doers did get punished..but they don't which is why human beings came up with laws to try to ensure the wicked were punished... however we have reached a stage where virtually no one is punished except the victims and every excuse in the book is used to prevent punishing the criminals Hi Mouse, no one is a victim, as we are all guilty of something in the past and how old is Creation? so we have had plenty of time to cause mischief and anything else that we set our minds to do. If you don't believe in reincarnation then you probably will rarely see Karma in action, though it is happening all the time.
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Post by mouse on Oct 4, 2017 3:50:24 GMT -5
very true Lin if only the wrong doers did get punished..but they don't which is why human beings came up with laws to try to ensure the wicked were punished... however we have reached a stage where virtually no one is punished except the victims and every excuse in the book is used to prevent punishing the criminals Hi Mouse, no one is a victim, as we are all guilty of something in the past and how old is Creation? so we have had plenty of time to cause mischief and anything else that we set our minds to do. If you don't believe in reincarnation then you probably will rarely see Karma in action, though it is happening all the time. no one is a victim ? really? are you 100% certain on that so the women and children of Syria are not victims .. the victims of the holocaust were not victims..how about the victims of isis or any of the bombing and killings around the UK and Europe... that those who died or were injured 9/11 were not victims... the 44million dead Russians were not political victims and if some yob decides to rob a shop and then whilst robbing inadvertently kills the owner .. in your thinking the dead man is not a victim a child raped by some vile pervert is not a victim sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 4, 2017 5:33:41 GMT -5
Well, to me the idea that the people who were murdered by the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and other scumbags somehow 'deserved' their 'punishment' because of 'sins in a past life' is just so morally repugnant it disgusts me. I literally want to vomit when I hear that sort of smug, callous immorality being voiced. God wants us to love one another; karma is yet another excuse for people to justify cruelty. The whole idea literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. Hi LadyLinda, It is neither smug nor callous but a fact. None of us have been Angels, as we are all living under the influence of the negative and positive force, in other words, vibrations. Were you miss goody two shoes when you were young? I didn't do any of the things that you did, does that mean that I am a better person than you? No it doesn't.!!! We are all Soul and made in the image of God, so Soul must be good. It is ignorance that is responsible for the mistakes that are made whilst in the flesh, and these mistakes add up. Should we blame someone else for what we have done or should we shoulder the blame for our own ignorance? You really have had an empathy by-pass, haven't you?
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Post by fretslider on Oct 4, 2017 5:48:18 GMT -5
very true Lin if only the wrong doers did get punished..but they don't which is why human beings came up with laws to try to ensure the wicked were punished... however we have reached a stage where virtually no one is punished except the victims and every excuse in the book is used to prevent punishing the criminals Hi Mouse, no one is a victim, as we are all guilty of something in the past and how old is Creation? so we have had plenty of time to cause mischief and anything else that we set our minds to do. If you don't believe in reincarnation then you probably will rarely see Karma in action, though it is happening all the time. no one is a victimHaven't we put this one to bed, before? You clearly state that no one is a victim. In this case then, the young female human rights activist who was raped by a gang of migrants at a refugee camp in France, is not a victim. The young female medical student, a volunteer at a refugee centre in Germany, who was raped and murdered by an Afghan migrant, is not a victim. Therefore, rape and murder are not crimes. Indeed, there are no crimes at all. You can't have a crime without a victim.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 7:05:11 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, no one is a victim, as we are all guilty of something in the past and how old is Creation? so we have had plenty of time to cause mischief and anything else that we set our minds to do. If you don't believe in reincarnation then you probably will rarely see Karma in action, though it is happening all the time. no one is a victimHaven't we put this one to bed, before? You clearly state that no one is a victim. In this case then, the young female human rights activist who was raped by a gang of migrants at a refugee camp in France, is not a victim. The young female medical student, a volunteer at a refugee centre in Germany, who was raped and murdered by an Afghan migrant, is not a victim. Therefore, rape and murder are not crimes. Indeed, there are no crimes at all. You can't have a crime without a victim. Hi Fretslider, everything is just a learning experience, which eventually leads us to spiritual evolvement. The body is just a tool for Soul whilst it is here having experiences.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 7:20:39 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, It is neither smug nor callous but a fact. None of us have been Angels, as we are all living under the influence of the negative and positive force, in other words, vibrations. Were you miss goody two shoes when you were young? I didn't do any of the things that you did, does that mean that I am a better person than you? No it doesn't.!!! We are all Soul and made in the image of God, so Soul must be good. It is ignorance that is responsible for the mistakes that are made whilst in the flesh, and these mistakes add up. Should we blame someone else for what we have done or should we shoulder the blame for our own ignorance? You really have had an empathy by-pass, haven't you? Hi LadyLinda, You couldn't be more wrong, It grieves me to know that someone is suffering. I have tried to give you info that will help your understanding of how to achieve this but to no avail. My efforts are completely ignored. Have it your way.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 7:32:14 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, no one is a victim, as we are all guilty of something in the past and how old is Creation? so we have had plenty of time to cause mischief and anything else that we set our minds to do. If you don't believe in reincarnation then you probably will rarely see Karma in action, though it is happening all the time. no one is a victim ? really? are you 100% certain on that so the women and children of Syria are not victims .. the victims of the holocaust were not victims..how about the victims of isis or any of the bombing and killings around the UK and Europe... that those who died or were injured 9/11 were not victims... the 44million dead Russians were not political victims and if some yob decides to rob a shop and then whilst robbing inadvertently kills the owner .. in your thinking the dead man is not a victim a child raped by some vile pervert is not a victim sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh Hi Mouse, A body to Soul is as a car to a person, it is a vehicle and wears out ready for the scrapheap or the grave.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 7:44:17 GMT -5
in English rather than using the word Karma... its what comes around goes around or they get their cumuppence or god works in mysterious ways and yes some times it does pla y out not always unfortunately [/ quote]Hi Mouse, Karma always plays out, but at God's time. It will happen at a time best suited for the person that needs to learn a particular lesson, not necessarily for your benefit. So where does luck come into it?
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Post by mouse on Oct 4, 2017 7:48:26 GMT -5
what sort of meaningless claptrap is that above ..none of the examples or the example that Fret gave had anything to do with bodies wearing out or being ready for the scrap heap..they were all every one victims and this is one of the areas where I really doubt you have an ounce of Christianity in you.. because no Christian could possibly subscribe to such thinking ... there is no moral worth in such thinking ...amnd it wipes out any need for the 10 comandments or the teaching of Jesus infact you remind me very much of the poverty striken in the middle east and parts of India who sit begging.. placing all guilt for their condition on God and they mumble ""as allah will"" over and over because its their mantra to explain every single wrong in their wretched little lives.. it also absolves them persomna;;y from any responsibilities for condition
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 7:53:39 GMT -5
A lot of older people believe in Karma. I wonder if that's because they've watched it play out. I think it's probably because they've become so disillusioned that they've fallen for wishful thinking. My experience of life and human history is that bad deeds all too often go unpunished and good ones unrewarded. If karma was true that wouldn't happen. Hi LadyLinda, Insert Reincarnation into the equasion and we have a feasible outcome.
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