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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 8:04:20 GMT -5
what sort of meaningless claptrap is that above ..none of the examples or the example that Fret gave had anything to do with bodies wearing out or being ready for the scrap heap..they were all every one victims and this is one of the areas where I really doubt you have an ounce of Christianity in you.. because no Christian could possibly subscribe to such thinking ... there is no moral worth in such thinking ...amnd it wipes out any need for the 10 comandments or the teaching of Jesus infact you remind me very much of the poverty striken in the middle east and parts of India who sit begging.. placing all guilt for their condition on God and they mumble ""as allah will"" over and over because its their mantra to explain every single wrong in their wretched little lives.. it also absolves them persomna;;y from any responsibilities for condition Hi Mouse, I have always said that we are responsible for the things that we do, so we don't pass the buck, and we certainly don't blame God.!!!
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Post by mouse on Oct 4, 2017 9:16:02 GMT -5
what sort of meaningless claptrap is that above ..none of the examples or the example that Fret gave had anything to do with bodies wearing out or being ready for the scrap heap..they were all every one victims and this is one of the areas where I really doubt you have an ounce of Christianity in you.. because no Christian could possibly subscribe to such thinking ... there is no moral worth in such thinking ...amnd it wipes out any need for the 10 comandments or the teaching of Jesus infact you remind me very much of the poverty striken in the middle east and parts of India who sit begging.. placing all guilt for their condition on God and they mumble ""as allah will"" over and over because its their mantra to explain every single wrong in their wretched little lives.. it also absolves them persomna;;y from any responsibilities for condition Hi Mouse, I have always said that we are responsible for the things that we do, so we don't pass the buck, and we certainly don't blame God.!!! oh no.. you cannot just pass the buck on this nor have it both ways either there are victims or there are not.. bodies wearing out to excuse vile deeds because of some foolish notion .. its sick teaching
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Post by mouse on Oct 4, 2017 9:45:34 GMT -5
what sort of meaningless claptrap is that above ..none of the examples or the example that Fret gave had anything to do with bodies wearing out or being ready for the scrap heap..they were all every one victims and this is one of the areas where I really doubt you have an ounce of Christianity in you.. because no Christian could possibly subscribe to such thinking ... there is no moral worth in such thinking ...amnd it wipes out any need for the 10 comandments or the teaching of Jesus infact you remind me very much of the poverty striken in the middle east and parts of India who sit begging.. placing all guilt for their condition on God and they mumble ""as allah will"" over and over because its their mantra to explain every single wrong in their wretched little lives.. it also absolves them persomna;;y from any responsibilities for condition Hi Mouse, I have always said that we are responsible for the things that we do, so we don't pass the buck, and we certainly don't blame God.!!! that is exactly my point religion is not about luck so you rabbiting on about luck/karma is pointless sl wrote """Karma always plays out, but at God's time"" so really.. karma/luck always plays out at Gods time.. are you sure ? that God plays around waiting to get lucky
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 4, 2017 16:36:52 GMT -5
I think it's probably because they've become so disillusioned that they've fallen for wishful thinking. My experience of life and human history is that bad deeds all too often go unpunished and good ones unrewarded. If karma was true that wouldn't happen. Hi LadyLinda, Insert Reincarnation into the equasion and we have a feasible outcome. No we don't. That just means punishing people who haven't even been born for sins they allegedly committed in past lives. Karma is just bullshit invented by people who use it as a tool to control people by giving them false hope and false sense of shame.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 16:58:46 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I have always said that we are responsible for the things that we do, so we don't pass the buck, and we certainly don't blame God.!!! oh no.. you cannot just pass the buck on this nor have it both ways either there are victims or there are not.. bodies wearing out to excuse vile deeds because of some foolish notion .. its sick teaching Hi Mouse, Why does it say in the Bible that the Kingdom of God is within? What happens to the physical body when it reaches the end of its days? Doesn't that tell you anything? To enter the Kingdom of God you are not going to need a physical body, so what are you then? It is Soul that is important and that is who you are. the body is no longer needed and it rots and returns to the earth from whence it came. When you are born again you receive a new body ( vehicle ) with the opportunity of learning more lessons by the experiences that you will have so that you will evolve spiritually, which is the reason for life in the first place.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 17:10:39 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, Insert Reincarnation into the equasion and we have a feasible outcome. No we don't. That just means punishing people who haven't even been born for sins they allegedly committed in past lives. Karma is just bullshit invented by people who use it as a tool to control people by giving them false hope and false sense of shame. Hi LadyLinda, there is no punishment, each Soul in its ignorance is just reaping the consequences of what it has done in order that it might learn, which will eventually happen.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 17:25:44 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I have always said that we are responsible for the things that we do, so we don't pass the buck, and we certainly don't blame God.!!! that is exactly my point religion is not about luck so you rabbiting on about luck/karma is pointless sl wrote """Karma always plays out, but at God's time"" so really.. karma/luck always plays out at Gods time.. are you sure ? that God plays around waiting to get lucky Hi Mouse, I'm not the one that said that Karma was luck. I only answered your post. To me, Karma is reaping what you sow, but it does show that you evidently don't believe in justice.
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 4, 2017 17:55:37 GMT -5
No we don't. That just means punishing people who haven't even been born for sins they allegedly committed in past lives. Karma is just bullshit invented by people who use it as a tool to control people by giving them false hope and false sense of shame. Hi LadyLinda, there is no punishment, each Soul in its ignorance is just reaping the consequences of what it has done in order that it might learn, which will eventually happen. What a sick and evil way of looking at human suffering. What a cop-out!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 18:23:55 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, there is no punishment, each Soul in its ignorance is just reaping the consequences of what it has done in order that it might learn, which will eventually happen. What a sick and evil way of looking at human suffering. What a cop-out! Hi LadyLinda, Apparently you don't believe in Justice either.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 20:26:30 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, there is no punishment, each Soul in its ignorance is just reaping the consequences of what it has done in order that it might learn, which will eventually happen. What a sick and evil way of looking at human suffering. What a cop-out! Hi LadyLinda, you seem to be obsessed with suffering, but don't possess the knowledge to alleviate it. Once that happens, there will be no more suffering. I do believe there is something about that in the Bible, but as usual, I can't remember where. I think it has something to do with the words ' In the twinkling of an eye ' but I am not sure.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 4, 2017 20:32:26 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, Insert Reincarnation into the equasion and we have a feasible outcome. No we don't. That just means punishing people who haven't even been born for sins they allegedly committed in past lives. Karma is just bullshit invented by people who use it as a tool to control people by giving them false hope and false sense of shame. Hi LadyLinda, if you really believe that Jesus saves, then there should no longer be a sense of shame. Didn't Jesus pay the price?
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Post by mouse on Oct 5, 2017 3:13:15 GMT -5
what sort of meaningless claptrap is that above ..none of the examples or the example that Fret gave had anything to do with bodies wearing out or being ready for the scrap heap..they were all every one victims and this is one of the areas where I really doubt you have an ounce of Christianity in you.. because no Christian could possibly subscribe to such thinking ... there is no moral worth in such thinking ...amnd it wipes out any need for the 10 comandments or the teaching of Jesus infact you remind me very much of the poverty striken in the middle east and parts of India who sit begging.. placing all guilt for their condition on God and they mumble ""as allah will"" over and over because its their mantra to explain every single wrong in their wretched little lives.. it also absolves them persomna;;y from any responsibilities for condition Hi Mouse, I have always said that we are responsible for the things that we do, so we don't pass the buck, and we certainly don't blame God.!!!
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Post by mouse on Oct 5, 2017 3:27:24 GMT -5
oh no.. you cannot just pass the buck on this nor have it both ways either there are victims or there are not.. bodies wearing out to excuse vile deeds because of some foolish notion .. its sick teaching Hi Mouse, Why does it say in the Bible that the Kingdom of God is within? What happens to the physical body when it reaches the end of its days? Doesn't that tell you anything? To enter the Kingdom of God you are not going to need a physical body, so what are you then? It is Soul that is important and that is who you are. the body is no longer needed and it rots and returns to the earth from whence it came. When you are born again you receive a new body ( vehicle ) with the opportunity of learning more lessons by the experiences that you will have so that you will evolve spiritually, which is the reason for life in the first place. I am sure all that crap must be of great comfort to a the people damaged physically and mentally in ravished war torn Syria and the raped and physically damaged children ruined by some pervert who you say are not ..victims..and even if they were/are hurt its of no importance because its only the physical body if we follow your sick reasoning we have no need of police.. fire services..doctors and dentists and of course hospitals because people including children are simply getting their just deserts for actions in a prior life and any suffering is well deserved and there should be no intervention to stop them reaping what they have sown ive finally realised why you never answer posts.. you do not answer because you do not have any answers.. just the same old same old repititions we were not discussing the kingdom of God we were discussing your beliefe that there are no such things as "victims"
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Post by mouse on Oct 5, 2017 4:05:29 GMT -5
No we don't. That just means punishing people who haven't even been born for sins they allegedly committed in past lives. Karma is just bullshit invented by people who use it as a tool to control people by giving them false hope and false sense of shame. Hi LadyLinda, there is no punishment, each Soul in its ignorance is just reaping the consequences of what it has done in order that it might learn, which will eventually happen. well that's a very contradictory offering if each soul is in ignorance ... how does it learn... how do you learn from past mistakes if you are not aware they were mistakes in the first place and now you say there is no punishment.. well scoobie doo I think you will find God is pretty hot on punishment.. being ejected out of Eden was just the start of punishmemnts according to the religious and remembering that what is in the bible is indisputable proof and cannot be argued with Sodam and Gomorah.. lots wife..Jonah and the wale.. the tribulations of Eyypt etc etc etc
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 5, 2017 4:45:58 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, there is no punishment, each Soul in its ignorance is just reaping the consequences of what it has done in order that it might learn, which will eventually happen. well that's a very contradictory offering if each soul is in ignorance ... how does it learn... how do you learn from past mistakes if you are not aware they were mistakes in the first place and now you say there is no punishment.. well scoobie doo I think you will find God is pretty hot on punishment.. being ejected out of Eden was just the start of punishmemnts according to the religious and remembering that what is in the bible is indisputable proof and cannot be argued with Sodam and Gomorah.. lots wife..Jonah and the wale.. the tribulations of Eyypt etc etc etc Hi Mouse, It is not classed as punishment as such, as we are the ones that are responsible for everything that happens to us, but you refuse to accept that fact. Would you say that a person deliberately punishes themselves?
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