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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 25, 2017 19:47:20 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I do NOT CONDONE VIOLENCE of any kind, THAT is what I am saying. What Hitler and his henchmen did should never have happened, every decent person knows that. Britain was forced to declare war on Germany when Hitler decided to invade Poland as apparently they had a pact to come to their aid if that should happen.
Once again, the outcome of war was unbelievable atrocities with millions being killed. This was caused by the vices of Anger and Greed which ofcourse should be controlled, along with the other vices that influence mankind if it is allowed to prevail.
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Post by mouse on Feb 26, 2017 6:47:51 GMT -5
am getting mixed messages here..one moment its no violence or confrontation what so ever the next your saying its ok in some circumstances
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 26, 2017 7:52:40 GMT -5
am getting mixed messages here..one moment its no violence or confrontation what so ever the next your saying its ok in some circumstances Hi Mouse, I am not aware that I have said that I will have to check. I have said, that it is not my inclination to confront anyone if it is going to lead to violence, but I know from experience that a person may think that they are going to act in a certain way, but when confronted with the reality they behave differently I have never been a violent person or do I lose my temper. As I said before I would rather walk away from any violent confrontation. My reply in the post 'The Law of Karma' explains why. I am not responsible for what anyone else decides to do.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 26, 2017 8:20:06 GMT -5
am getting mixed messages here..one moment its no violence or confrontation what so ever the next your saying its ok in some circumstances Hi Mouse, I am not condoning war, you were speaking about Hitler and the atrocities that were committed when he was in power. I was only relating what happened, I was defintely not condoning it. I didn't even know there was a pact between Britain and Poland., I was only nine years old when war was declared.
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Post by ladylinda on Feb 26, 2017 19:15:21 GMT -5
Well, I wasn't even born till 1978 but believe me my uncle (an Auschwitz survivor whose parents, brother and sister died in the camps) told me PLENTY about the horrors of the porajmos.
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Post by mouse on Feb 27, 2017 5:59:40 GMT -5
am getting mixed messages here..one moment its no violence or confrontation what so ever the next your saying its ok in some circumstances Hi Mouse, I am not condoning war, you were speaking about Hitler and the atrocities that were committed when he was in power. I was only relating what happened, I was defintely not condoning it. I didn't even know there was a pact between Britain and Poland., I was only nine years old when war was declared. you have said repeatedly that there should be no reaction to violence ...and I have said if we do not react them matters get worse Hitler was in power in Germany a good few years before ww2..no one stopped him even when it was apparent exactly what sort of leader he was and which direction he was taking the only thing which stopped the Reichs advance was violence in the form of national armies making allies so it was violence which ended that particular war violence some times is the ONLY answer to a problem... if evil men are not stopped the evil increases..and praying..turning the other check..wishing etc will not stop evil only concerted efforts and some times great sacrifces stop evil
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 27, 2017 6:55:13 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I am not condoning war, you were speaking about Hitler and the atrocities that were committed when he was in power. I was only relating what happened, I was defintely not condoning it. I didn't even know there was a pact between Britain and Poland., I was only nine years old when war was declared. you have said repeatedly that there should be no reaction to violence ...and I have said if we do not react them matters get worse Hitler was in power in Germany a good few years before ww2..no one stopped him even when it was apparent exactly what sort of leader he was and which direction he was taking the only thing which stopped the Reichs advance was violence in the form of national armies making allies so it was violence which ended that particular war violence some times is the ONLY answer to a problem... if evil men are not stopped the evil increases..and praying..turning the other check..wishing etc will not stop evil only concerted efforts and some times great sacrifces stop evil Hi Mouse, That is your point of view not mine. I'm not the one that declared war, I'm not the one that is killing anyone.I'm only in charge of myself no one else.!!! That is why I sent you that post from the religious thread. I'm a member of ECKANKAR and we believe that everyoe is in the place that they are meant to be, doing the things that they do. As I believe in reincarnation each body that we are born into contains all the aspects that will unfold in a certain way because of the Karma that we accrue as time moves on. We are however given the opportunity to choose with the options that we have, so that we can modify what happens to us as we work off our Karma by resolving the problems between each other. This is what I truly believe, you evidently don't believe what I believe. We both have our different points of view, I'm okay with that.!!! To my way of thinking if you retaliate in a similar manner it is still evil. We are instructed to love one another. I adhere to that instruction. Killing another person in war is certainly not love, surely you can see that. We are what we are for a reason but one thing I'm sure of, we will all have to pay the piper sooner or later.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 27, 2017 7:21:01 GMT -5
Well, I wasn't even born till 1978 but believe me my uncle (an Auschwitz survivor whose parents, brother and sister died in the camps) told me PLENTY about the horrors of the porajmos. Hi Lady Linda, I'm not doubting that for one moment It wasn't just about race it was about Hitler thinking that they were inferior, even people with mental illness and physical disabilities were sent to the gas chamber besides the experiments that they used on people. Hitler was trying to produce a master race of people and he didn't care how he did it. I certainly wouldn't want to be in his shoes when the crunch comes. Life is a mystery we all know that, we are all searching for the truth we each believe the truth of our individual experiences, that is all we can do.!!!
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Post by mouse on Feb 27, 2017 8:30:55 GMT -5
you have said repeatedly that there should be no reaction to violence ...and I have said if we do not react them matters get worse Hitler was in power in Germany a good few years before ww2..no one stopped him even when it was apparent exactly what sort of leader he was and which direction he was taking the only thing which stopped the Reichs advance was violence in the form of national armies making allies so it was violence which ended that particular war violence some times is the ONLY answer to a problem... if evil men are not stopped the evil increases..and praying..turning the other check..wishing etc will not stop evil only concerted efforts and some times great sacrifces stop evil Hi Mouse, That is your point of view not mine. I'm not the one that declared war, I'm not the one that is killing anyone.I'm only in charge of myself no one else.!!! That is why I sent you that post from the religious thread. I'm a member of ECKANKAR and we believe that everyoe is in the place that they are meant to be, doing the things that they do. As I believe in reincarnation each body that we are born into contains all the aspects that will unfold in a certain way because of the Karma that we accrue as time moves on. We are however given the opportunity to choose with the options that we have, so that we can modify what happens to us as we work off our Karma by resolving the problems between each other. This is what I truly believe, you evidently don't believe what I believe. We both have our different points of view, I'm okay with that.!!! To my way of thinking if you retaliate in a similar manner it is still evil. We are instructed to love one another. I adhere to that instruction. Killing another person in war is certainly not love, surely you can see that. We are what we are for a reason but one thing I'm sure of, we will all have to pay the piper sooner or later. exactly why I say you send out mixed messages..as you are the type it would seem who walks on by and says not my problem..regardless of how violent or how vicious are as for your ideas of karma...seems a template for doing nothing and rejecting any responcibilty for any thing...luckily others were willing to suffer..work..sacrfice and or die for you[and the rest of us] to enjoy living in a fairly civilised society
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 28, 2017 1:50:50 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical world, so as I said before, we are all in the place where we are meant to be, carrying out the deeds that we are destined to carry out, if we haven't been able by our reasoning to modify our behaviour somewhat by perhaps realizing that we could have behaved better, so will refrain from behaving like that again. Only then have we learned our lesson, and resolved some of our karma. We do not evolve spiritually until that happens.
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Post by fretslider on Feb 28, 2017 7:32:08 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical world, so as I said before, we are all in the place where we are meant to be, carrying out the deeds that we are destined to carry out, if we haven't been able by our reasoning to modify our behaviour somewhat by perhaps realizing that we could have behaved better, so will refrain from behaving like that again.We have learned our lesson. Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical worldAnd it's the naked lust of our parents, nothing else.
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Post by mouse on Feb 28, 2017 8:14:14 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical world, so as I said before, we are all in the place where we are meant to be, carrying out the deeds that we are destined to carry out, if we haven't been able by our reasoning to modify our behaviour somewhat by perhaps realizing that we could have behaved better, so will refrain from behaving like that again.We have learned our lesson. Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical worldAnd it's the naked lust of our parents, nothing else. absolutely Fret..i certainly wasn't planned we are born of physical action nothing less and nothing more
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 28, 2017 15:37:31 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical world, so as I said before, we are all in the place where we are meant to be, carrying out the deeds that we are destined to carry out, if we haven't been able by our reasoning to modify our behaviour somewhat by perhaps realizing that we could have behaved better, so will refrain from behaving like that again.We have learned our lesson. Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical worldAnd it's the naked lust of our parents, nothing else. Hi Fretslider, The human body is so intricate in its function that I am amazed. As far as I am concerned it is love that runs the show, not lust.!!! there is a difference, but if that is how you see life, then so be it.!!!
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Post by fretslider on Feb 28, 2017 15:47:08 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical worldAnd it's the naked lust of our parents, nothing else. Hi Fretslider, The human body is so intricate in its function that I am amazed. As far as I am concerned it is love that runs the show, not lust.!!! there is a difference, but if that is how you see life, then so be it.!!! Who told you that love and lust are mutually exclusive? Have you ever been in love and not felt the least bit lustful at the same time? Love keeps you together and lust keeps the relationship alive.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 28, 2017 19:56:16 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, We each have a reason for being born into this physical worldAnd it's the naked lust of our parents, nothing else. absolutely Fret..i certainly wasn't planned we are born of physical action nothing less and nothing more Wow.!!! and Wow.!!! again. Mouse, I don't think I would like to be in your head, if that is how you see the wonderful creation of what is life. When I think of life I am awestuck by its beauty and the marvellous functioning of everything, who could have thought that all up. I for one, will never cease to be amazed.!!! Don't you see the wonder of it all?
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