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Post by arizonavet on May 31, 2011 16:22:21 GMT -5
If one tenth the concern & cost afforded these murdering pedophiles, were directed at executing or incarcerating them..things could be different. They have earned the publics distrust & loathing...properly. I would make it their problem of how to stay incognito while they plan their next disgusting crime against children. Look at the picture of the trusting 2 year old, James Bulger being led to his death. vigilant-antis.blogspot.com/2010/06/jon-venables-repeat-sex-offender.htmlI just can't work up a good "feel bad" for the murderers....I would advertise their names & addresses. Can you even imagine how mothers & fathers will feel, when they find that the government they trust to protect them, is instrumental in surreptitiously placing these monsters in neighborhoods that have no idea what is living next door? And they PAID for it, with their taxes??? These are monsters that never should have see the light of day...ever! Least we have seen the back of one paedo. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392349/Paedophile-illegal-immigrant-finally-thrown-Britain-claiming-deportation-breach-HIS-human-rights.htmlThanks for the link Soulman. I wonder what will happen to this swine when he repeats his disgusting acts (and he will, they can't help it) in Islamic Pakistan? He's GOT to be "persona non-grata" the day his plane lands..... Oh, I almost forgot...he's a man. (sorta)
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Post by biglin on May 31, 2011 16:53:27 GMT -5
If one tenth the concern & cost afforded these murdering pedophiles, were directed at executing or incarcerating them..things could be different. They have earned the publics distrust & loathing...properly. I would make it their problem of how to stay incognito while they plan their next disgusting crime against children. Look at the picture of the trusting 2 year old, James Bulger being led to his death. vigilant-antis.blogspot.com/2010/06/jon-venables-repeat-sex-offender.htmlI just can't work up a good "feel bad" for the murderers....I would advertise their names & addresses. Can you even imagine how mothers & fathers will feel, when they find that the government they trust to protect them, is instrumental in surreptitiously placing these monsters in neighborhoods that have no idea what is living next door? And they PAID for it, with their taxes??? These are monsters that never should have see the light of day...ever! You're dead right, George. Even I wouldn't execute a couple of 10-year olds but by God I'd have locked them up for the rest of their worthless lives!
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Post by Erasmus on May 31, 2011 17:05:41 GMT -5
Just when did a child aged eleven turn into a paedophile?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 17:39:14 GMT -5
Just when did a child aged eleven turn into a paedophile? IMO, the moment he murdered a child of two.
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Post by Erasmus on May 31, 2011 18:58:01 GMT -5
I don't think murder and torture constitute sexcrime even if what sex a child is capable of was involved and I don't think either, that without adult training a lot of children would be averse to torturing each other to death.
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Post by mouse on Jun 1, 2011 2:31:04 GMT -5
the people who should really be getting the flak are the parents of the two boys..because it was under their care these two boys became killers..these two boys were made what they were by their parents and siblings..the siblings and parents of course have not been punished for their actions which ultimately led to the death of the two year old the punishment the two boys recieved was not punishment nor were they rehabilitated venables by all acounts should not have been released into the community ever
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Post by mouse on Jun 1, 2011 2:34:12 GMT -5
I don't think murder and torture constitute sexcrime even if what sex a child is capable of was involved and I don't think either, that without adult training a lot of children would be averse to torturing each other to death. many children are little savages and would not be averse to to killing or torture..lord of the flies is not so very much off the mark take a look in any play ground or at any group of bullies
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Post by markindurham on Jun 1, 2011 2:48:37 GMT -5
I don't think murder and torture constitute sexcrime even if what sex a child is capable of was involved and I don't think either, that without adult training a lot of children would be averse to torturing each other to death. many children are little savages and would not be averse to to killing or torture..lord of the flies is not so very much off the mark take a look in any play ground or at any group of bullies That's where parental guidance is key, else homo sapiens does revert to more primitive instincts - the same goes for other animal groups, particularly, but not restricted to, primates. One's progeny need to be taught the 'rules' of society; they are not instinctive, unlike, inter alia, the 'need to breed'...
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Post by arizonavet on Jun 1, 2011 8:23:25 GMT -5
I don't think murder and torture constitute sexcrime even if what sex a child is capable of was involved and I don't think either, that without adult training a lot of children would be averse to torturing each other to death. Erasmus....you honestly don't know this?: British prosecutors said Monday that a man convicted of murdering a toddler in 1993, when he himself was just 10 years old, has been charged with child pornography offenses. No insult intended Erasmus....but how could you defend this person who kidnapped, tortured & killed a TWO year old.....and is now, at 27 years old, facing child porn charges? This man is dangerous...like a viper. The problem may, or may not be initiated by bad child rearing on the part of the parients....we may never know. What we DO know, is ther "result".....contain this monster, or he will most surely strike again.
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Post by Erasmus on Jun 1, 2011 9:37:35 GMT -5
Erasmus....you honestly don't know this?: British prosecutors said Monday that a man convicted of murdering a toddler in 1993, when he himself was just 10 years old, has been charged with child pornography offenses. No insult intended Erasmus....but how could you defend this person who kidnapped, tortured & killed a TWO year old.....and is now, at 27 years old, facing child porn charges? This man is dangerous...like a viper. The problem may, or may not be initiated by bad child rearing on the part of the parients....we may never know. What we DO know, is ther "result".....contain this monster, or he will most surely strike again. I defend him in exactly the same way as any criminal is entitled to a legal defence. It is of more concern to me how he came to be the way he was so that instead of expostulating sanctimonious righteous hatred, we can prevent others from going the same way. It is also of concern to me how easily slipshod thinking says that because he may have child porn now he was a paedophile then when he was a child. Maybe he was just born that way? Maybe we could look for signs and portents in infants and exterminate those just born that way? That would be so much easier than looking for background reasons that made them that way and doing something about them, wouldn't it? I don't believe in born that way. I believe in social conditioning.
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Post by arizonavet on Jun 1, 2011 10:18:14 GMT -5
Erasmus....you honestly don't know this?: British prosecutors said Monday that a man convicted of murdering a toddler in 1993, when he himself was just 10 years old, has been charged with child pornography offenses. No insult intended Erasmus....but how could you defend this person who kidnapped, tortured & killed a TWO year old.....and is now, at 27 years old, facing child porn charges? This man is dangerous...like a viper. The problem may, or may not be initiated by bad child rearing on the part of the parients....we may never know. What we DO know, is ther "result".....contain this monster, or he will most surely strike again. I defend him in exactly the same way as any criminal is entitled to a legal defence. It is of more concern to me how he came to be the way he was so that instead of expostulating sanctimonious righteous hatred, we can prevent others from going the same way. It is also of concern to me how easily slipshod thinking says that because he may have child porn now he was a paedophile then when he was a child. Maybe he was just born that way? Maybe we could look for signs and portents in infants and exterminate those just born that way? That would be so much easier than looking for background reasons that made them that way and doing something about them, wouldn't it? I don't believe in born that way. I believe in social conditioning. Sanctimonious? Rightous? No Erasmus..... protection of our children isn't "sanctimonious". If you are willing to foot the bill to examine the hell out of him....do it, with pleasure AFTER he is removed from society. The rate of recitivism for child molestors, specifically, teaches us that all the platitudes & quack shrinks in the world has little effect. They WILL continue their disgusting attacks on our most innocent, helpless citizens, if not contained. People are born without arms, legs, crippled bodies, as well as minds.... Why can they not be born child molestors & killers......as Venables has proven to be, at the age of 10!
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Post by Soulman on Jun 1, 2011 13:23:31 GMT -5
I don't think murder and torture constitute sexcrime even if what sex a child is capable of was involved and I don't think either, that without adult training a lot of children would be averse to torturing each other to death. Although things were obviously kept out of the media, you do realise that Venables sexually assaulted young Jamie as well don't you. The trait was there.
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Post by arizonavet on Jun 1, 2011 13:27:54 GMT -5
I don't think murder and torture constitute sexcrime even if what sex a child is capable of was involved and I don't think either, that without adult training a lot of children would be averse to torturing each other to death. Although things were obviously kept out of the media, you do realise that Venables sexually assaulted young Jamie as well don't you. The trait was there. Thank you Soulman for this very pertinent info.....they just don't quit. I won't execute ten year olds either....but now he's 27....and "stepping out of line" again.
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Post by Soulman on Jun 1, 2011 13:42:09 GMT -5
Although things were obviously kept out of the media, you do realise that Venables sexually assaulted young Jamie as well don't you. The trait was there. Thank you Soulman for this very pertinent info.....they just don't quit. I won't execute ten year olds either....but now he's 27....and "stepping out of line" again. Just to say that these details were not put out because of the severity. Unfortunately the Bulger parents have to live with this information every day.
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Post by arizonavet on Jun 1, 2011 14:38:36 GMT -5
Thank you Soulman for this very pertinent info.....they just don't quit. I won't execute ten year olds either....but now he's 27....and "stepping out of line" again. Just to say that these details were not put out because of the severity. Unfortunately the Bulger parents have to live with this information every day. The witholding of pertinent info may have contributed to the publics lack of outcry, especially after Venables was caught with illegal child porn. To their credit, they seem to have corrected this oversight. Little doubt that he will strike again...I can only hope that the next time, he will be swiftly caught & properly imprisoned for life. I'd be willing to bet, the Bulger's have known very well, since their child was found, what happened to him...in detail.
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