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Oct 6, 2016 23:47:09 GMT -5
Post by kronks on Oct 6, 2016 23:47:09 GMT -5
In most of the world it's work for basic subsistence or starve unless there's a relative, friend or charity/church that will help. That not slavery, Kronks, that's life. In the western world at least those people not able to work because of disability are helped. I don't know about your country but in the U.S., that's bare bones. At least it's enough to get by. No slavery here that I'm aware of. We have national insurance in the UK to provide for those who can't find work. What you are suggesting is not life but savagery and inhumanity, it is "a life" but an evil one. USA has workfare slavery too. Maybe you cant them all work for Trump for nothing, or more like working for yourself for nothing? Workfare is genodice.
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Oct 6, 2016 23:49:37 GMT -5
Post by Sysop3 on Oct 6, 2016 23:49:37 GMT -5
In most of the world it's work for basic subsistence or starve unless there's a relative, friend or charity/church that will help. That not slavery, Kronks, that's life. In the western world at least those people not able to work because of disability are helped. I don't know about your country but in the U.S., that's bare bones. At least it's enough to get by. No slavery here that I'm aware of. We have national insurance in the UK to provide for those who can't find work. What you are suggesting is not life but savagery and inhumanity, it is "a life" but an evil one. USA has workfare slavery too. Maybe you cant them all work for Trump for nothing, or more like working for yourself for nothing? Workfare is genodice. We don't have workfare, Kronks. I'm seriously thnking that rumor might be true.
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Oct 6, 2016 23:49:57 GMT -5
Post by kronks on Oct 6, 2016 23:49:57 GMT -5
The jobs may involve mind numbing boredom or drudgery but unlike slaves, employees can seek another job and walk away. Since when did slaves get paid vacations, holidays, health insurance and a 401k plus a forty hour workweek with two days off? Those aren't slaves, they are wage slaves. That kind of job is not rigid standard for everybody. Then there are the Amazon wage slaves. Still, Kronks is off base in trying to say that people who are employed to keep their gov. assistance are slaves. They're lucky to live where help is there for them. Not help but exploitation of the poor by the rich. The French had a cure for that, Madame la Guillotine. About time that was brought back for the "let them eat cakers"
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Oct 6, 2016 23:50:26 GMT -5
Post by kronks on Oct 6, 2016 23:50:26 GMT -5
We have national insurance in the UK to provide for those who can't find work. What you are suggesting is not life but savagery and inhumanity, it is "a life" but an evil one. USA has workfare slavery too. Maybe you cant them all work for Trump for nothing, or more like working for yourself for nothing? Workfare is genodice. We don't have workfare, Kronks. I'm seriously thnking that rumor might be true. who is we?
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Oct 6, 2016 23:52:38 GMT -5
Post by Sysop3 on Oct 6, 2016 23:52:38 GMT -5
We don't have workfare, Kronks. I'm seriously thnking that rumor might be true. who is we? This country, Kronks. The U. S.. No more feeding you answers. Keep up or drop out.
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Oct 6, 2016 23:56:17 GMT -5
Post by kronks on Oct 6, 2016 23:56:17 GMT -5
We still have slavery in the west under the warm word of workfare, ie work for basic subsistence or starve to death, shocking it seem the majority of the electorate agree with it. So still in the dark ages in the 21st century. hardly shocking that """the electorate shocking it seem the majority of the electorate agree with it."" the majority are sick of keeping scrotes layabout and com merchants ..there are enough cases nop one can be ignorant of what is going on you may or may not be aware of the work going on to put an end to none contracted hours and payday loans as for work fare..they are hardly working for nothing.....they are STILL in receipt of welfare/unemployment/housing subsidies etc its not a scheme I particularily like ..but the aim is to get them in the routine of getting up to go to work...to try alter the mindset of relying on benefits if they don't like work fare the answer is theirs..go get a job the biggest hinderence to many looking and finding a job is the level of welfare and subsidies which means they are better off not working than they are working [there are parts of the country where finding work is almost an impossibility.. and there are circumstance where being taken on by an emplyors just isn't going to happen..these two circumstance are special circumstance] but for the lazy bone idle no work no eat People pay taxes and national insurance, it was used to bail about the rich when the housing bubble burst, that is robbery. I expect you were one of those bailed out, one of the robbers.
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Oct 6, 2016 23:57:10 GMT -5
Post by kronks on Oct 6, 2016 23:57:10 GMT -5
This country, Kronks. The U. S.. No more feeding you answers. Keep up or drop out. The US is not the only country in the world in cause you are aware!
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Post by Sysop3 on Oct 7, 2016 0:01:02 GMT -5
This country, Kronks. The U. S.. No more feeding you answers. Keep up or drop out. The US is no the only country in the world in cause you were not aware! We have several programs to help people get back to work or train to qualify for entry level jobs but they involve fair pay. Lots of times they work part time and go to tech school or college, too. It's a far cry from slavery. Sorry, I usually am not mistaken for having any other country of origin.
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Post by mouse on Oct 9, 2016 8:46:42 GMT -5
Workfare in the UK is not slavery, it's unpaid work for people who receive benefits. Some companies do exploit it but why shouldn't the unemployed work for their benefits? Slavery anywhere is unpaid work for people who receive basic benefits ie enough food and shelter to keep them alive so they can put another had shift in. Why shouldn't the unemployed work for benefits? Well to stop companies sacking all their workers and rehiring them as slaves. Further to that is totally inhumane and immoral. Al companies who use it are exploiting it, if they have a job they should pay a wage, what is to stop them progressively sacking their workers and rehiring them as slaves? Nothing! It is disgusting and should be illegal. Which jobs do you think are best performed by slaves by the way? I have a few jobs that need doing, where do I get one of these slaves from? I reckon I could put quite a few companies out of business using this slave labour. actually slavery is where your owned body and soul. a slave has NO CHOICES..where he or she lives..no choices as to what work they do......you do NOT get paid..you do exactly as your told because some body OWNS YOU...THAT IS SLAVERY
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Post by mouse on Oct 9, 2016 8:47:50 GMT -5
and I disagree...but what ever slavery does nothing to bring about the conditions Kronks has indicated slaves do not get to choose the work they do or the hours they work or even the ability to do nothing and get paid for it It is slavery if you are forced through no fault of your own to live on a mere pittance as well as being demeaning. They should be given a regular wage so that they can live normally. no it isn't slavery at all..a slave works for NOTHING
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Post by mouse on Oct 9, 2016 8:58:27 GMT -5
Those aren't slaves, they are wage slaves. That kind of job is not rigid standard for everybody. Then there are the Amazon wage slaves. Still, Kronks is off base in trying to say that people who are employed to keep their gov. assistance are slaves. They're lucky to live where help is there for them. Not help but exploitation of the poor by the rich. The French had a cure for that, .Madame la Guillotine About time that was brought back for the "let them eat cakers" Kronks......exploitation of the poor by the rich......really what about the exploitation of the rich and not so rich by the poor ? not every business owner is rich just as not every one on welfare is is some poor down trodden son of the soil there are people who exploit other people without a qualm.. we all know the benefit system is robbed blind...and there are those who are poor because they make them selves poor...by various means... if we were to bring back Madame la Guillotine for every one exploiting the system....trust me there would be as many poor needing Madame la Guillotine as there are rich...and there again what is the definition of rich..and just what is the definition of poor these days...when poverty comes under the banner of comparative poverty comparative poverty is very different than grinding poverty[much of it self inflicted
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Oct 9, 2016 15:41:12 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 9, 2016 15:41:12 GMT -5
It is slavery if you are forced through no fault of your own to live on a mere pittance as well as being demeaning. They should be given a regular wage so that they can live normally. no it isn't slavery at all..a slave works for NOTHING Hi Mouse, A slave does not work for nothing. They are given food, clothing and shelter in exchange for their work, under normal conditions they would have to pay for these things themselves out of the wage, if they were receiving one. Everything costs and has to be paid for.!!!
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Oct 9, 2016 16:42:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 16:42:03 GMT -5
Slavery anywhere is unpaid work for people who receive basic benefits ie enough food and shelter to keep them alive so they can put another had shift in. Why shouldn't the unemployed work for benefits? Well to stop companies sacking all their workers and rehiring them as slaves. Further to that is totally inhumane and immoral. Al companies who use it are exploiting it, if they have a job they should pay a wage, what is to stop them progressively sacking their workers and rehiring them as slaves? Nothing! It is disgusting and should be illegal. Which jobs do you think are best performed by slaves by the way? I have a few jobs that need doing, where do I get one of these slaves from? I reckon I could put quite a few companies out of business using this slave labour. actually slavery is where your owned body and soul. a slave has NO CHOICES..where he or she lives..no choices as to what work they do......you do NOT get paid..you do exactly as your told because some body OWNS YOU...THAT IS SLAVERY The soul, fortunately, is not owned. That's how people survive it. That's why there is so much belief and endurance in the African-American and Native American cultures.
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Oct 9, 2016 18:04:02 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 18:04:02 GMT -5
actually slavery is where your owned body and soul. a slave has NO CHOICES..where he or she lives..no choices as to what work they do......you do NOT get paid..you do exactly as your told because some body OWNS YOU...THAT IS SLAVERY The soul, fortunately, is not owned. That's how people survive it. That's why there is so much belief and endurance in the African-American and Native American cultures. I agree with you in that slave owners had no control over the slave's soul..
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Oct 10, 2016 2:52:38 GMT -5
Post by mouse on Oct 10, 2016 2:52:38 GMT -5
The soul, fortunately, is not owned. That's how people survive it. That's why there is so much belief and endurance in the African-American and Native American cultures. I agree with you in that slave owners had no control over the slave's soul.. its a saying cheffy ..nothing more..it indicates a total loss of freedom....
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