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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 0:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 0:12:05 GMT -5
By the way men an tol, When I realised that we were discussing spiritual matters on the wrong thread. I decided to look around for a more appropriate thread. I chose Religion and Spirituality and created the thread Tai Chi, as we had touched on that, thereby giving you the opportunity to talk more on that subject if you so wished.. You must have missed my post where I mentioned this. Beth perhaps moved it somewhere else I don't know, but the thread Tai chi is mine. Just thought I would mention it.
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Post by men an tol on Nov 9, 2015 0:19:40 GMT -5
Hi Men an tol, I am very aware that what ECKists believe goes all the way back in time. It is a religion whether you or anyone else chooses to call it a cult or a sect. Paul Twitchell was given the task of gathering together truths of a given nature, so that under a new name, westernised people would be made aware of these truths. These truths resurface every time conditions in the physical world become so bad and against what God had designed for us, that we are given the opportunity to see if we can perhaps turn things around by making wiser choices. Afterall it is our choices that produce the conditions that prevail on this Earth plane. What Paul Twitchell gather was already known by 'Westernized' people. He brought nothing new. Much of what he developed came fro the work of others such as L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology (where Paul Twitchell worked with L. Ron Hubbard). They both were influenced by the 'existing' works of others. That you and others find value in accepting what they did is great for you and you should (as I have said a number of times) continue with your believing it. In fact, I suggest that you cannot do otherwise. But do not make the mistake that others cannot understand what the approaches of these organizations are, or what they are based on, or the sources, without being members. No one here has (as far as I've seen) has suggested that you drop out of Eckankar, I know that I certainly haven't. I don't think that it helps your position at all to believe (as you seem to do) that others (at least here) are out to minimize your beliefs. At the same time we are not necessarily susceptible to its pitch.
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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 0:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 0:23:06 GMT -5
Sorry Mouse if I have attributed the two super normal experiences to you. It looks like I got mixed up with men an tol's two heart attacks where he experienced nothing.
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Post by men an tol on Nov 9, 2015 0:28:27 GMT -5
By the way men an tol, When I realised that we were discussing spiritual matters on the wrong thread. I decided to look around for a more appropriate thread. I chose Religion and Spirituality and created the thread Tai Chi, as we had touched on that, thereby giving you the opportunity to talk more on that subject if you so wished.. You must have missed my post where I mentioned this. Beth perhaps moved it somewhere else I don't know, but the thread Tai chi is mine. Just thought I would mention it. If you check Scottish Lassie, under “Mind, Body, Spirit” and then under “Zen, Meditation, Martial Arts” you will find the theme, “Tai Chi.” Yes, it was initially established by you but my understanding is that Beth moved it to this location since Tai Chi is not a religion.
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Post by men an tol on Nov 9, 2015 0:30:54 GMT -5
Sorry Mouse if I have attributed the two super normal experiences to you. It looks like I got mixed up with men an tol's two heart attacks where he experienced nothing. Just to make it clear, one at age 50ish was a heart attack where the heart completely stopped and the other was death from a more serious operation everything quit.
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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 0:41:04 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 0:41:04 GMT -5
I do believe Men an tol that these beliefs were mostly known by those in India and thereabouts, that is where Paul Twitchell went and no doubt any other person not of that particular persuasion. If they had a belief system it was mainly Christian. I have just remembered that some Swamis and Gurus did go to America, but I'm not quite sure of whether that was around the same time of not.
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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 0:45:04 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 0:45:04 GMT -5
By the way men an tol, When I realised that we were discussing spiritual matters on the wrong thread. I decided to look around for a more appropriate thread. I chose Religion and Spirituality and created the thread Tai Chi, as we had touched on that, thereby giving you the opportunity to talk more on that subject if you so wished.. You must have missed my post where I mentioned this. Beth perhaps moved it somewhere else I don't know, but the thread Tai chi is mine. Just thought I would mention it. If you check Scottish Lassie, under “Mind, Body, Spirit” and then under “Zen, Meditation, Martial Arts” you will find the theme, “Tai Chi.” Yes, it was initially established by you but my understanding is that Beth moved it to this location since Tai Chi is not a religion. Thanks for clarifying that fact for me Men an tol, I am always appreciative of the truth,
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Post by mouse on Nov 9, 2015 5:07:49 GMT -5
Sorry Mouse if I have attributed the two super normal experiences to you. It looks like I got mixed up with men an tol's two heart attacks where he experienced nothing. no problem [as I had two things I couldn't explain]but its of no account...as I wrote in an earlier post
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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 5:39:20 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 5:39:20 GMT -5
I can relate to anything that you have to say because I have experiences in both types of dimensions, the physical and the Spirit dimension. All ECKists naturally do this. You seem to want to only relate to the physical.
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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 5:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 5:52:22 GMT -5
Sorry Mouse if I have attributed the two super normal experiences to you. It looks like I got mixed up with men an tol's two heart attacks where he experienced nothing. no problem [as I had two things I couldn't explain]but its of no account...as I wrote in an earlier post Hi Mouse, I'm always interested in anyone's supernatural experiences. We have work shops where the question is 'what spiritual experience have you had? Everyone in ECKANKAR is very interested in that, because we know that each experience means something important and relates to life in the physical. But if you would rather not talk about it, I understand.
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Post by mouse on Nov 9, 2015 6:53:39 GMT -5
I did post them some weeks ago in another thread
one was when I was about 14..friend I was staying with and I went a bike ride to a place neither of us knew as her family had only just moved to the area we went down a lane and came across a a derelict old hall... any way we went around to the front [which I said would have a high walled garden with a path to the door because ive been here before] to see if we could explore more...the front door was slightly ajar......I described what we would find ...a stair case inside the door and a massive room with two fireplaces one at one end on that wall and one at the other end on that wall...both inside walls and I wore a red evening gown and came down the wooden stair case..some sort of party... how or why I knew I have no idea....but I was spot on...later the old house was.. demolished as was usual before conservation became a big thing... it was built in the reign of Henry v111..and was lived in until the 20/30s have since seen both illustrations and photographs of the place....there are NO family connections to the hall or the family whose home it was the other instance my son borning in the November was still on 10pm feeds...so I was finishing off his bottle and change..and husband was emptying the ashes from the stove..prior to building it up for the night he was rather a long time[it was a cold cold night] any way in he came saying he had seen something unusual in the sky..so I handed over the baby and went out side and there was a cigar shape deep red and stationary in the sky,,, eventually it just disappeared as though a light had been switched off...but the time length was enough from him to go out side..dump the ashes..take a good look come back in and for me to go outside and take a good look we laughed and called it our own UFO when the local papers came out later that week..a policeman cycling to work had also reported the phenomina so that made three of us who had seen whatever ever it was
two happenings.. I cannot explain
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Post by beth on Nov 9, 2015 6:58:53 GMT -5
If you check Scottish Lassie, under “Mind, Body, Spirit” and then under “Zen, Meditation, Martial Arts” you will find the theme, “Tai Chi.” Yes, it was initially established by you but my understanding is that Beth moved it to this location since Tai Chi is not a religion. Thanks for clarifying that fact for me Men an tol, I am always appreciative of the truth, If you get lost, Chris, one way to find an ongoing discussion is to click on Recent Posts at the top of the main page. When you see the post you want to reply to, click on it and you'll be in the right place. I know using your phone as much as you do must give you a little different perspective. If we don't keep the threads in the corresponding topics, most would not know where to look for them. Men an tol gave you good directions to keep you on the path.
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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 15:26:19 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 15:26:19 GMT -5
Hi Beth, when I receive notifications, I answer them, if there are none then that is what I do. I press navigation then recent posts, which I answer if I'm interested.
I was thinking that Tai Chi could have been spiritual and that is the category that I chose, but I can see that where you moved it to, is certainly more appropriate, thankyou for that.
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Nov 9, 2015 15:31:50 GMT -5
Post by men an tol on Nov 9, 2015 15:31:50 GMT -5
Hi Beth, when I receive notifications, I answer them, if there are none then that is what I do. I press navigation then recent posts, which I answer if I'm interested. I was thinking that Tai Chi could have been spiritual and that is the category that I chose, but I can see that where you moved it to, is certainly more appropriate, thankyou for that. I only mention for clarification Scottish Lassie, that you were correct, Tai Chi for many millions of people can be and is spiritual, it is just not religious.
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Tai Chi
Nov 9, 2015 15:41:27 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 9, 2015 15:41:27 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, It is obvious to me that you indeed had a past life experience, which to an ECKist is proof that there is such a thing as reincarnation. The UFO to me, as we haven't that kind of technology as far as we know. I would say that it was an Alien Craft.
I do believe that Aliens exist and have visited our world and probably are still here. I have seen a Flying Saucer during the day, so it was quite clear. I am a believer without a doubt.
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