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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2015 12:27:17 GMT -5
A mature adult should be confident enough with who they are as a person without having to rely on flattery or insults.I don't need a pat on the back for anythig. I don't even give it a thought. God loves me, and that is all I need to know. My security lies with God and as long as our relationship is intact, I have no real worries. That's a nice thought, Chris. The above was not meant to be taken seriously ... just a light exchange. No worries.
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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2015 12:34:48 GMT -5
A mature adult should be confident enough with who they are as a person without having to rely on flattery or insults.I don't need a pat on the back for anythig. I don't even give it a thought. God loves me, and that is all I need to know. My security lies with God and as long as our relationship is intact, I have no real worries. that is very true. it is always great to receive praise for a job well done, but, if the job was done well for the specific reason of receiving praise, then, you have the pride that you were referring to. i could care less. i do like being thanked for doing something, but, if i am not, oh well, and, if i am criticized, well, there might, or might not, be repercussions I hear you, Jim. Praise is nice occasionally but the important thing is to know we've done a few things right ... not dwell on it ... move on to find a few more things worth doing.
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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2015 12:38:03 GMT -5
Hii Mouse, what does being realistic mean to you? Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't hope? Hopes are dreams and very often they do come true. The members of ECKANKAR witness miracles all the time because they know that anything is possible with the help of the Holy Spirit if we were just relying on practcality alone, then it is possible we could miss out on the miracles. I believe implicitly,that dreams are answered. I sometimes just have to think about something that I like and hey presto it comes my way. No doubt because I believe in my heart that anything is possible. and right there is where the old admonishment comes in handy. You know the one ... "be careful what you wish for ... ".
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Post by annaj26 on Jan 20, 2015 13:44:01 GMT -5
Hi Iamjumbo, it is neither here nor there as far as I am concerned. I do the best that I can and praise and thanks don't alter that one iota. In other words, I do things from the heart with all sincerity not expecting either. I have a grateful heart towards God,because whatever comes my way, I know it is for my spiritual benefit. We are all here to learn the truth, that we are Soul and have a mission to fulfil and when we have accomplished that,we will know the why's and wherefores of life. But, do you realize that in most of these posts you are patting yourself on the back? Just wondered. Kind of ironic.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 19:25:07 GMT -5
A mature adult should be confident enough with who they are as a person without having to rely on flattery or insults.I don't need a pat on the back for anythig. I don't even give it a thought. God loves me, and that is all I need to know. My security lies with God and as long as our relationship is intact, I have no real worries. That's a nice thought, Chris. The above was not meant to be taken seriously ... just a light exchange. No worries. Hi Beth, the expression 'no worries' is the same as ' you'll be right,mate' and ofcourse is Australian. Which means ofcourse, everything is okay.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 20:25:37 GMT -5
Hii Mouse, what does being realistic mean to you? Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't hope? Hopes are dreams and very often they do come true. The members of ECKANKAR witness miracles all the time because they know that anything is possible with the help of the Holy Spirit if we were just relying on practcality alone, then it is possible we could miss out on the miracles. I believe implicitly,that dreams are answered. I sometimes just have to think about something that I like and hey presto it comes my way. No doubt because I believe in my heart that anything is possible. yes we should hope and dream..but be grounded in reality of what is possible at the same time..hopes and dreams rarely come true unless we put in the time and the energy to make them come true....people dream of becoming rich via lotterys etc but if you don't buy a ticket them the dream and hope are never going to come true..its the same with most things if you don't put the effort in there will be no result..that is reality... others dream and hope to be ""famous"" though have no idea of what they wish to become famous as..they want the sleb life style just because they want it...almost think then have entitlement which is why there are so many wannabes there are those on those shows britians got talent...yet most contestents have absolutely no talent what so ever...that is reality.....if you cannot hold a tune why go in for a singing competition.. no amounts of hopes and dreams are going to make a silk purse out of a sows ear and that is a fact..that is reality I think that a bad performance is often due to extreme nerves, some people are more sensitive than others. With the experience of being in the public eye, they sometimes can overcome their nerves, and go on to having a career. Why try to dampen a person's hopes of something they no doubt enjoy.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 20:47:14 GMT -5
Hi Iamjumbo, it is neither here nor there as far as I am concerned. I do the best that I can and praise and thanks don't alter that one iota. In other words, I do things from the heart with all sincerity not expecting either. I have a grateful heart towards God,because whatever comes my way, I know it is for my spiritual benefit. We are all here to learn the truth, that we are Soul and have a mission to fulfil and when we have accomplished that,we will know the why's and wherefores of life. But, do you realize that in most of these posts you are patting yourself on the back? Just wondered. Kind of ironic. I am just stating facts, if you perceive it that way, then that is your problem. Apparently if you were the one that was making these statements you would consciously be patting yourself on the back. I am impervious to being affected by flattery or insults, To God, give the Glory, all that I am, whatever that may be, is thanks to God.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 21:17:37 GMT -5
Hii Mouse, what does being realistic mean to you? Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't hope? Hopes are dreams and very often they do come true. The members of ECKANKAR witness miracles all the time because they know that anything is possible with the help of the Holy Spirit if we were just relying on practcality alone, then it is possible we could miss out on the miracles. I believe implicitly,that dreams are answered. I sometimes just have to think about something that I like and hey presto it comes my way. No doubt because I believe in my heart that anything is possible. and right there is where the old admonishment comes in handy. You know the one ... "be careful what you wish for ... ". Hi Beth, I have been protected all my life by God, so I have no need to worry. I am confident in what I post ,not because of pride, but because I am led by the Holy Spirit, that makes the difference. I have not been led astray as yet, as I go through life always trying to do my best in every given circumstance. Doesn't everyone? To God be the Glory.
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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2015 21:40:32 GMT -5
That's a nice thought, Chris. The above was not meant to be taken seriously ... just a light exchange. No worries. Hi Beth, the expression 'no worries' is the same as ' you'll be right,mate' and ofcourse is Australian. Which means of course, everything is okay. Is it really Australian? That never entered my mind. I've heard it and used it for a long time. Yes, lthat's exactly what I meant .. everything's okay. I've known and posted with Jumbo for years.
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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2015 21:48:20 GMT -5
and right there is where the old admonishment comes in handy. You know the one ... "be careful what you wish for ... ". Hi Beth, I have been protected all my life by God, so I have no need to worry. I am confident in what I post ,not because of pride, but because I am led by the Holy Spirit, that makes the difference. I have not been led astray as yet, as I go through life always trying to do my best in every given circumstance. Doesn't everyone? To God be the Glory. Do you mean you've never wanted something that turned out not to be the best thing for you? I'd guess it's part of the human experience that most of us do at some point or other. I'm glad you're sure all your hopes and dreams are the best thing for you.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 21:56:01 GMT -5
yes we should hope and dream..but be grounded in reality of what is possible at the same time..hopes and dreams rarely come true unless we put in the time and the energy to make them come true....people dream of becoming rich via lotterys etc but if you don't buy a ticket them the dream and hope are never going to come true..its the same with most things if you don't put the effort in there will be no result..that is reality... others dream and hope to be ""famous"" though have no idea of what they wish to become famous as..they want the sleb life style just because they want it...almost think then have entitlement which is why there are so many wannabes there are those on those shows britians got talent...yet most contestents have absolutely no talent what so ever...that is reality.....if you cannot hold a tune why go in for a singing competition.. no amounts of hopes and dreams are going to make a silk purse out of a sows ear and that is a fact..that is reality the proper thing to do is to hope for the best, but expect the worst, so that, no matter what happens, you won't be disappointed Why should a person expect the worst? If you are preparing yourself to expect the worst, then that is probably what you will get. I put my trust in God, that whatever is given to me, will be for my ultimate good. Whilst waiting in town for the bus, I happened to see a dress in the shop across the road, liked what I saw, and thought, " I wish I had the money to buy it." it was a passing thought, but when my birthday came around, my daughter presented me with the very same dress. How is that for service? As the passing thought was immediately forgotten, the fact that I liked that dress was not mentioned to anyone. I have even told my children that the only presents that I am interested in, are the gifts of the Spirit, and guess what! I have received them also. God Is good to me.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 22:11:02 GMT -5
Hi Beth, I have been protected all my life by God, so I have no need to worry. I am confident in what I post ,not because of pride, but because I am led by the Holy Spirit, that makes the difference. I have not been led astray as yet, as I go through life always trying to do my best in every given circumstance. Doesn't everyone? To God be the Glory. Do you mean you've never wanted something that turned out not to be the best thing for you? I'd guess it's part of the human experience that most of us do at some point or other. I'm glad you're sure all your hopes and dreams are the best thing for you. Being in ECKANKAR gives you the insight that God always knows best.. We may ask for certain things but it is not necessarily beneficial for our spiritual growth, so we don't always get what we have asked for, though sometimes we will receive it because we need to realise something. We are all here to learn with the help of the Holy Spirit. Didn't you know?
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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2015 22:53:35 GMT -5
Do you mean you've never wanted something that turned out not to be the best thing for you? I'd guess it's part of the human experience that most of us do at some point or other. I'm glad you're sure all your hopes and dreams are the best thing for you. Being in ECKANKAR gives you the insight that God always knows best.. We may ask for certain things but it is not necessarily beneficial for our spiritual growth, so we don't always get what we have asked for, though sometimes we will receive it because we need to realise something. We are all here to learn with the help of the Holy Spirit. Didn't you know? Chris, I think you're doing a certain amount of ratonalizing as you go. I know you won't agree but you probably know me well enough by now to know I don't mean it as an insult .. just a difference of opinions. Rationalization isn't a bad thing, and it does help shape some of our opinions. I do think we have free will and are capable of thinking for ourselves without an intermediary. Do you know The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám? This is going to be a short paraphrase because I don't know it by memory and don't have time to look it up. A part of it goes something like this ... " ..."We are no other than a moving row of secret shadow shapes that come and go 'round a sun illuminated lantern held at midnight by the Master of the show. But, separate pieces of a game he plays upon his checker board of nights and days ... hither and thither moves and checks and slays and one by one, back in the closet lays. And, that inverted bowl we call the sky, which, under, crawling cooped we live and die .. lift not your arms to it for help, for it moves as impotently as you or I". I find that a very annoying, unpleasant concept. As if .. God "guides" us and "helps" us make our decisions, etc.. To me, that is not free will. So, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I know some new age concepts believe we have spiritual guides who give us extra insight and help us along the way. But, at this point in life, I am probably responsible for my own mistakes and corrections. No arrogance there ... just reality as I know it. Best
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Post by mouse on Jan 21, 2015 3:44:36 GMT -5
yes we should hope and dream..but be grounded in reality of what is possible at the same time..hopes and dreams rarely come true unless we put in the time and the energy to make them come true....people dream of becoming rich via lotterys etc but if you don't buy a ticket them the dream and hope are never going to come true..its the same with most things if you don't put the effort in there will be no result..that is reality... others dream and hope to be ""famous"" though have no idea of what they wish to become famous as..they want the sleb life style just because they want it...almost think then have entitlement which is why there are so many wannabes there are those on those shows britians got talent...yet most contestents have absolutely no talent what so ever...that is reality.....if you cannot hold a tune why go in for a singing competition.. no amounts of hopes and dreams are going to make a silk purse out of a sows ear and that is a fact..that is reality I think that a bad performance is often due to extreme nerves, some people are more sensitive than others. With the experience of being in the public eye, they sometimes can overcome their nerves, and go on to having a career. Why try to dampen a person's hopes of something they no doubt enjoy. """"think that a bad performance is often due to extreme nerves, some people are more sensitive than others"""mmm not talking about nerves..but people who simply cannot come up to scratch despite their own ideas of self worth """"Why try to dampen a person's hopes of something they no doubt enjoy""" what they enjoy is irelevent if they are expecting others to buy into their lack of talent..and that is the nub of reality between happy singing in the bath and appearing on stage in Milan between a bit of DIY on a wall in the garden and building a house... not all the hopes.. dreams..power of prayer in the world will make wull make a 5yr old a brain surgeon we have to be realistic in what we ask for or think ourselves capable of
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Post by mouse on Jan 21, 2015 4:00:28 GMT -5
the proper thing to do is to hope for the best, but expect the worst, so that, no matter what happens, you won't be disappointed Why should a person expect the worst? If you are preparing yourself to expect the worst, then that is probably what you will get. I put my trust in God, that whatever is given to me, will be for my ultimate good. Whilst waiting in town for the bus, I happened to see a dress in the shop across the road, liked what I saw, and thought, " I wish I had the money to buy it." it was a passing thought, but when my birthday came around, my daughter presented me with the very same dress. How is that for service? As the passing thought was immediately forgotten, the fact that I liked that dress was not mentioned to anyone. I have even told my children that the only presents that I am interested in, are the gifts of the Spirit, and guess what! I have received them also. God Is good to me. i would say that the above is that your daughter knows you well..well enough to know the dress was what you would enjoy as a birthday present and i have had very similar experiences..son 1 was in the army and yet if i ever felt i needed him he arrived home from where ever he had been posted..just would walk through the door..it got so that my friends and neighbours actually commented on it..because it didn't just happen once it happened a number of times..over the years he was in the forces[and its not that i am closer to him than the others or that he is a mummys boy or that he had been called for] but it became a standing joke
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