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Post by beth on Jan 18, 2015 17:36:54 GMT -5
I was mostly talking about children being encouraged to do their best, Chris. Should have made that clear. It's my opinion that the better a child's self confidence the better they do in school and that continues through life. Otherwise, I don't think a pat on the back hurts. Sometimes, it's just the thing to add a smile and a spring to the step. That's my personal opinion. We all have to go with what we believe is right. of course, there is a difference between getting a pat on the back for something, and breaking your arm trying to pat your own back lolololo Jim. No doubt!
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Post by mouse on Jan 19, 2015 4:13:37 GMT -5
I still have an excellent memory[even though its a bit iffy now and then....although its not what it used to be..when I could look at a page and take in and understand every thing written on it..but that was then and we are in the here and now so no I am not getting info from the internet..but simply writing as I think as I think from what I know I was simply just gathering thoughts and putting them down...not trying to be controversial or nasty in anyway..just thinking it through and yes I am glad your happy with what you believe..as we all deserve to be happy with our belifes/ethics/standards etc Hi Mouse, Happiness is what we are all striving for but often find it to be elusive. My spiritual belief is my life's path. It is what I live for, above everyhing else. happiness and contentment are usually found when we become more realistic as to what is attainable whether we have religious or other or no beliefes what so ever....and when our expectations become rooted in the possible rather than the improbable.. when we accept what is.. rather than what might have been[ the old could have/should have/routine] as Kahil Gibhran says...life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday that is not to say we shouldn't aspire but we should be realistic in our aspiration.. so many people think ..things.. are the way to happiness..rather like those women who have sugery who think once they have a new nose or bigger/smaller boobs and a myriad of other nips and tucks etc etc they will be happier or get more attention etc etc the discontent they feel really has little to do with physicality and every thing to do with what they perceive will bring them happiness etc...and of course it doesnt...the problem is inside them
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 1:10:21 GMT -5
Hi Beth, I think most people try to do their best, to me this is normal. I just accept whatever happens as a result. I just do what needs to be done and that's it. If a person is giving themselves a pat on the back just because things turned out well, then that to me,is pride. That is how I think. I was mostly talking about children being encouraged to do their best, Chris. Should have made that clear. It's my opinion that the better a child's self confidence the better they do in school and that continues through life. Otherwise, I don't think a pat on the back hurts. Sometimes, it's just the thing to add a smile and a spring to the step. That's my personal opinion. We all have to go with what we believe is right. Quite true Beth, I would always explain to my children why I had asked them to do something or why it was important to behave in a certain way. I never ordered them around. We are all unique beings trying to make our way through life as best as we can. We should have the best interests at heart of all human beings. If only we all thought that way then this world would be a wonderful world in which to live. There is so much beauty in nature but you can't really enjoy it because there is so much strife going on in various countries that it is not safe to travel and see the sights anymore. My belief in God is what keeps me going and I have lived a good life compared to some others. I would honestly ike everyone to be happy, but I can't make decisions for others and I do believe in Karma, that each person makes their own bed, therefore must lie in it. Which means ofcourse, you reap what you sow.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 1:28:04 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Happiness is what we are all striving for but often find it to be elusive. My spiritual belief is my life's path. It is what I live for, above everyhing else. happiness and contentment are usually found when we become more realistic as to what is attainable whether we have religious or other or no beliefes what so ever....and when our expectations become rooted in the possible rather than the improbable.. when we accept what is.. rather than what might have been[ the old could have/should have/routine] as Kahil Gibhran says...life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday that is not to say we shouldn't aspire but we should be realistic in our aspiration.. so many people think ..things.. are the way to happiness..rather like those women who have sugery who think once they have a new nose or bigger/smaller boobs and a myriad of other nips and tucks etc etc they will be happier or get more attention etc etc the discontent they feel really has little to do with physicality and every thing to do with what they perceive will bring them happiness etc...and of course it doesnt...the problem is inside them Hi Mouse, I don't think that is all there is to it. Society on the whole, has everything to do with it. Beauty is worshipped and we know that not everyone is beautiful, so for those who know that they are lacking in that category, choose to do something about it. Everyone is searching for happiness in their own way and I don't blame them. The thing is some people get carried away and overdo it, that is when they become sick and they end up mor discontented than ever, which is a pity.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 1:49:02 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, we in ECKANKAR believe in reincarnation, therfore the past is important as is the future. ECKists live their lives with the help of the Holy Spirit and our Spiritual Leader.
We are shown past lives, in order for that to happen. It helps us to experience life to its best advantage. So all those who pay attention can go through life better off than they might have been. What more can you ask for?
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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2015 2:05:30 GMT -5
I was mostly talking about children being encouraged to do their best, Chris. Should have made that clear. It's my opinion that the better a child's self confidence the better they do in school and that continues through life. Otherwise, I don't think a pat on the back hurts. Sometimes, it's just the thing to add a smile and a spring to the step. That's my personal opinion. We all have to go with what we believe is right. Quite true Beth, I would always explain to my children why I had asked them to do something or why it was important to behave in a certain way. I never ordered them around. We are all unique beings trying to make our way through life as best as we can. We should have the best interests at heart of all human beings. If only we all thought that way then this world would be a wonderful world in which to live. There is so much beauty in nature but you can't really enjoy it because there is so much strife going on in various countries that it is not safe to travel and see the sights anymore. My belief in God is what keeps me going and I have lived a good life compared to some others. I would honestly ike everyone to be happy, but I can't make decisions for others and I do believe in Karma, that each person makes their own bed, therefore must lie in it. Which means ofcourse, you reap what you sow. I understand what you're saying, Chris. Here, they say, "what goes around, comes around". I think that's called "folk legend" and a lot of people DO believe it's so but don't call it karma. I admire your aspirations to goodness and I'm sure you are a fine person. I find most people are fairly decent and have the best intentions among those I know. I don't think interest in or practice of organized religion is necessary for that, but don't begrudge anyone who does. Hope your week has gotten off to a good start. all the best
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Post by mouse on Jan 20, 2015 3:12:22 GMT -5
happiness and contentment are usually found when we become more realistic as to what is attainable whether we have religious or other or no beliefes what so ever....and when our expectations become rooted in the possible rather than the improbable.. when we accept what is.. rather than what might have been[ the old could have/should have/routine] as Kahil Gibhran says...life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday that is not to say we shouldn't aspire but we should be realistic in our aspiration.. so many people think ..things.. are the way to happiness..rather like those women who have sugery who think once they have a new nose or bigger/smaller boobs and a myriad of other nips and tucks etc etc they will be happier or get more attention etc etc the discontent they feel really has little to do with physicality and every thing to do with what they perceive will bring them happiness etc...and of course it doesnt...the problem is inside them Hi Mouse, I don't think that is all there is to it. Society on the whole, has everything to do with it. Beauty is worshipped and we know that not everyone is beautiful, so for those who know that they are lacking in that category, choose to do something about it. Everyone is searching for happiness in their own way and I don't blame them. The thing is some people get carried away and overdo it, that is when they become sick and they end up mor discontented than ever, which is a pity. we shall have to disagree up to a point I am afraid.. society has always loved beauty..even though ideals of beauty change of course not every body is beautiful in the accepted sense...but what happened to making the best of ones self ..what happened to being comfortable in ones own body...we cannot blame society as we run around like headless chickens chasing rainbows searching for ever elusive happiness ...because we ARE society and its those who buy into the myths who fuel greater and greater expectations.. happiness as prescribed by those who want to make money out of the unwitting...urging ever increasing excesses and expences and expectations and yet the discontent grows regardless in so many people because ""things"" are transitory...and the out pourings of those who make money by pretending ""things"" can bring happiness if you ask most people what makes them happy and content..they wont talk of things one can buy its the smell of grass...the sweet smell of a new baby..a roast in the oven..well sung carols etc etc
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 3:38:02 GMT -5
Hii Mouse, what does being realistic mean to you? Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't hope? Hopes are dreams and very often they do come true.
The members of ECKANKAR witness miracles all the time because they know that anything is possible with the help of the Holy Spirit if we were just relying on practcality alone, then it is possible we could miss out on the miracles.
I believe implicitly,that dreams are answered. I sometimes just have to think about something that I like and hey presto it comes my way. No doubt because I believe in my heart that anything is possible.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 4:04:24 GMT -5
of course, there is a difference between getting a pat on the back for something, and breaking your arm trying to pat your own back lolololo Jim. No doubt! A mature adult should be confident enough with who they are as a person without having to rely on flattery or insults.I don't need a pat on the back for anythig. I don't even give it a thought. God loves me, and that is all I need to know. My security lies with God and as long as our relationship is intact, I have no real worries.
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Post by mouse on Jan 20, 2015 4:23:55 GMT -5
Hii Mouse, what does being realistic mean to you? Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't hope? Hopes are dreams and very often they do come true. The members of ECKANKAR witness miracles all the time because they know that anything is possible with the help of the Holy Spirit if we were just relying on practcality alone, then it is possible we could miss out on the miracles. I believe implicitly,that dreams are answered. I sometimes just have to think about something that I like and hey presto it comes my way. No doubt because I believe in my heart that anything is possible. yes we should hope and dream..but be grounded in reality of what is possible at the same time..hopes and dreams rarely come true unless we put in the time and the energy to make them come true....people dream of becoming rich via lotterys etc but if you don't buy a ticket them the dream and hope are never going to come true..its the same with most things if you don't put the effort in there will be no result..that is reality... others dream and hope to be ""famous"" though have no idea of what they wish to become famous as..they want the sleb life style just because they want it...almost think then have entitlement which is why there are so many wannabes there are those on those shows britians got talent...yet most contestents have absolutely no talent what so ever...that is reality.....if you cannot hold a tune why go in for a singing competition.. no amounts of hopes and dreams are going to make a silk purse out of a sows ear and that is a fact..that is reality
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 6:47:41 GMT -5
Hii Mouse, what does being realistic mean to you? Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't hope? Hopes are dreams and very often they do come true. The members of ECKANKAR witness miracles all the time because they know that anything is possible with the help of the Holy Spirit if we were just relying on practcality alone, then it is possible we could miss out on the miracles. I believe implicitly,that dreams are answered. I sometimes just have to think about something that I like and hey presto it comes my way. No doubt because I believe in my heart that anything is possible. yes we should hope and dream..but be grounded in reality of what is possible at the same time..hopes and dreams rarely come true unless we put in the time and the energy to make them come true....people dream of becoming rich via lotterys etc but if you don't buy a ticket them the dream and hope are never going to come true..its the same with most things if you don't put the effort in there will be no result..that is reality... others dream and hope to be ""famous"" though have no idea of what they wish to become famous as..they want the sleb life style just because they want it...almost think then have entitlement which is why there are so many wannabes there are those on those shows britians got talent...yet most contestents have absolutely no talent what so ever...that is reality.....if you cannot hold a tune why go in for a singing competition.. no amounts of hopes and dreams are going to make a silk purse out of a sows ear and that is a fact..that is reality Hi Mouse, you have your experiences, I have mine. I have loads of amazing things happen to me because I put my trust in the Holy Spirit not the things of this world.
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Post by mouse on Jan 20, 2015 7:11:21 GMT -5
"""Hi Mouse, you have your experiences, I have mine. I have loads of amazing things happen to me because I put my trust in the Holy Spirit not the things of this world."""
you asked me what i meant by ""realistic""i simply gave a couple of answers if your at uni and don't go to lectures/study for those years etc etc...then the academic achievements will be zero and possibly be sent down...and it would be unrealistic to expect a 1-1 or 1-2 in any given subject... and no amount of prayer will pass the finals i am not knocking your stance at all..I am sure as you have said prayer works for you as an individual and your happy with that..then that is good for you.....but I guess it all depends on what your praying for.. what i am saying no amount of prayer will make a 5yr old or a road builder into a brain surgeon..and we ALL have to be realistic when it comes to hopes and dreams
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 20, 2015 7:13:36 GMT -5
A mature adult should be confident enough with who they are as a person without having to rely on flattery or insults.I don't need a pat on the back for anythig. I don't even give it a thought. God loves me, and that is all I need to know. My security lies with God and as long as our relationship is intact, I have no real worries. that is very true. it is always great to receive praise for a job well done, but, if the job was done well for the specific reason of receiving praise, then, you have the pride that you were referring to. i could care less. i do like being thanked for doing something, but, if i am not, oh well, and, if i am criticized, well, there might, or might not, be repercussions
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 20, 2015 7:18:34 GMT -5
Hii Mouse, what does being realistic mean to you? Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't hope? Hopes are dreams and very often they do come true. The members of ECKANKAR witness miracles all the time because they know that anything is possible with the help of the Holy Spirit if we were just relying on practcality alone, then it is possible we could miss out on the miracles. I believe implicitly,that dreams are answered. I sometimes just have to think about something that I like and hey presto it comes my way. No doubt because I believe in my heart that anything is possible. yes we should hope and dream..but be grounded in reality of what is possible at the same time..hopes and dreams rarely come true unless we put in the time and the energy to make them come true....people dream of becoming rich via lotterys etc but if you don't buy a ticket them the dream and hope are never going to come true..its the same with most things if you don't put the effort in there will be no result..that is reality... others dream and hope to be ""famous"" though have no idea of what they wish to become famous as..they want the sleb life style just because they want it...almost think then have entitlement which is why there are so many wannabes there are those on those shows britians got talent...yet most contestents have absolutely no talent what so ever...that is reality.....if you cannot hold a tune why go in for a singing competition.. no amounts of hopes and dreams are going to make a silk purse out of a sows ear and that is a fact..that is reality the proper thing to do is to hope for the best, but expect the worst, so that, no matter what happens, you won't be disappointed
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2015 7:45:53 GMT -5
Hi Iamjumbo, it is neither here nor there as far as I am concerned. I do the best that I can and praise and thanks don't alter that one iota. In other words, I do things from the heart with all sincerity not expecting either.
I have a grateful heart towards God,because whatever comes my way, I know it is for my spiritual benefit. We are all here to learn the truth, that we are Soul and have a mission to fulfil and when we have accomplished that,we will know the why's and wherefores of life.
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