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Post by mouse on Oct 19, 2017 8:07:54 GMT -5
There is a purpose for Soul having experiences in the physical. There would be no point in setting it all up if everyone was going to commit suicide willy nilly as soon as they were savvy enough to do it. The Muslims are going to be disappointed when they get into Heaven, there will be no virgins waiting for them. There is a purpose for Soul hWe've already established that this construct you call Soul is non-existent. Remember, you said it was unimportant when it was debunked. Now you say it has a purpose? Presumably, it's an unimportant purpose. yes you did write that .. and also you said Christianity was a busted flush and Twitchal had come to replace Christianitys message
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 19, 2017 17:20:54 GMT -5
There is a purpose for Soul hWe've already established that this construct you call Soul is non-existent. Remember, you said it was unimportant when it was debunked. Now you say it has a purpose? Presumably, it's an unimportant purpose. yes you did write that .. and also you said Christianity was a busted flush and Twitchal had come to replace Christianitys message I think what I meant was as we are all God's children, then one person is as good as the next.we might not be aware, but there is a reason for everything.Paul Twitchell was chosen by God to take the message of ECKANKAR to the people in the West, so just accept that.!!!
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Post by mouse on Oct 20, 2017 3:09:15 GMT -5
yes you did write that .. and also you said Christianity was a busted flush and Twitchal had come to replace Christianitys message I think what I meant was as we are all God's children, then one person is as good as the next.we might not be aware, but there is a reason for everything.Paul Twitchell was chosen by God to take the message of ECKANKAR to the people in the West, so just accept that.!!! no I wont just accept that.. not at all.. I find it unacceptable you wrote that Twitchell had been chosen to bring a message to the people of the west because Christianity was no fit for purpose and then went on to elevate him to the levels of being a prophet on a par with Abraham/Moses/Jesus.... the meaning couldn't be clearer
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 20, 2017 3:59:10 GMT -5
I think what I meant was as we are all God's children, then one person is as good as the next.we might not be aware, but there is a reason for everything.Paul Twitchell was chosen by God to take the message of ECKANKAR to the people in the West, so just accept that.!!! no I wont just accept that.. not at all.. I find it unacceptable you wrote that Twitchell had been chosen to bring a message to the people of the west because Christianity was no fit for purpose and then went on to elevate him to the levels of being a prophet on a par with Abraham/Moses/Jesus.... the meaning couldn't be clearer People are just people. They are not meant to be glorified. Which means that only God is glorified. Certain Souls are sent into this World to perform certain tasks, not because they are more special than anyone else but because of their abilities to perform what is necessary for the sake of Mankind, which no doubt, only God knows why.
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Post by mouse on Oct 20, 2017 4:07:59 GMT -5
no I wont just accept that.. not at all.. I find it unacceptable you wrote that Twitchell had been chosen to bring a message to the people of the west because Christianity was no fit for purpose and then went on to elevate him to the levels of being a prophet on a par with Abraham/Moses/Jesus.... the meaning couldn't be clearer People are just people. They are not meant to be glorified. Which means that only God is glorified. Certain Souls are sent into this World to perform certain tasks, not because they are more special than anyone else but because of their abilities to perform what is necessary for the sake of Mankind, which no doubt, only God knows why. Glorified.. err who what where did that come from
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 20, 2017 4:30:07 GMT -5
People are just people. They are not meant to be glorified. Which means that only God is glorified. Certain Souls are sent into this World to perform certain tasks, not because they are more special than anyone else but because of their abilities to perform what is necessary for the sake of Mankind, which no doubt, only God knows why. Glorified.. err who what where did that come from You seem to be putting Abraham, Moses, Jesus on a pedestal, so if we are all just Human beings, then it is not warranted.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 20, 2017 6:22:47 GMT -5
There is a purpose for Soul hWe've already established that this construct you call Soul is non-existent. Remember, you said it was unimportant when it was debunked. Now you say it has a purpose? Presumably, it's an unimportant purpose. You might have established it in your mind but that doesn't mean that it is so. Soul is a unit of awareness, it is up to you to prove different.!!! Do we really have to go over it again? You claimed all animals - all animals - have soul This is patently false as soul, or consciousness is only apparent in higher animals such a mammals. Lower orders such as sponges, jellyfish, insects etc etc are not self aware. They have rudimetanry ganglia - clumps of nerve cells - not brains. Then you said that it was not imporatnt. These are facts. Can you prove otherwise?
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Post by fretslider on Oct 20, 2017 6:24:24 GMT -5
if life after death is so great why wouldn't people wish to take a short cut to getting thereThat's the muslim belief. Martyrdom and all that. There is a purpose for Soul having experiences in the physical. There would be no point in setting it all up if everyone was going to commit suicide willy nilly as soon as they were savvy enough to do it. The Muslims are going to be disappointed when they get into Heaven, there will be no virgins waiting for them. Soul is an artificial construct. As well you know.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 20, 2017 6:25:42 GMT -5
Jihad involves fighting an enemy of Islam and dying in the cause. The Christian turns the other cheek just before it gets blown off. If trying to work out when the world is going to end isn't uplifting, neither is what you have just said, apart from everything else that is happening in the World today. Yes, Islam is far from uplifting, isn't it.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 20, 2017 6:26:35 GMT -5
There is a purpose for Soul hWe've already established that this construct you call Soul is non-existent. Remember, you said it was unimportant when it was debunked. Now you say it has a purpose? Presumably, it's an unimportant purpose. I don't think I would have said that. That is why it is wrong to terminate someone's life before their allotted time. We are all here for a reason, some like Jesus have a special mission to perform. You did say that.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 20, 2017 6:41:32 GMT -5
I don't think I would have said that. That is why it is wrong to terminate someone's life before their allotted time. We are all here for a reason, some like Jesus have a special mission to perform. You did say that. I still think that you have misconstrued what I said.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 20, 2017 6:45:13 GMT -5
There is a purpose for Soul having experiences in the physical. There would be no point in setting it all up if everyone was going to commit suicide willy nilly as soon as they were savvy enough to do it. The Muslims are going to be disappointed when they get into Heaven, there will be no virgins waiting for them. Soul is an artificial construct. As well you know. I know nothing of the kind.!!! I KNOW that I AM Soul
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Post by mouse on Oct 20, 2017 6:47:56 GMT -5
Glorified.. err who what where did that come from You seem to be putting Abraham, Moses, Jesus on a pedestal, so if we are all just Human beings, then it is not warranted. I don't put them on any sort of pedestal...but the first two are seen as the founders of Judaism and Islam and Jesus as the founder of Christianity.. thus all three are respected figures of those who follow the words and deeds Abraham the founder of his people [Jewish] and via Ishmael [islam] Moses led his people away from Egypt Jesus founded an entire world wide faith religion following [knowledge of him was right around Europe in less than 30 yrs] Twitchel very few people have heard of him after 70 yrs
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 20, 2017 6:49:08 GMT -5
You might have established it in your mind but that doesn't mean that it is so. Soul is a unit of awareness, it is up to you to prove different.!!! Do we really have to go over it again? You claimed all animals - all animals - have soul This is patently false as soul, or consciousness is only apparent in higher animals such a mammals. Lower orders such as sponges, jellyfish, insects etc etc are not self aware. They have rudimetanry ganglia - clumps of nerve cells - not brains. Then you said that it was not imporatnt. These are facts. Can you prove otherwise? These creatures also evolve.
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Post by mouse on Oct 20, 2017 6:50:02 GMT -5
I still think that you have misconstrued what I said. no misconstruction you said what you said.....
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