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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 17, 2017 17:57:15 GMT -5
I know this meaning, I just don't go along with it. mm am not convinced TOO BAD.!!!
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Post by mouse on Oct 18, 2017 2:36:26 GMT -5
I don't know, mouse. I think she's pretty aware. I try to come in almost every day, and I notice she has 4 people going after her all the time, yet she tries to express her beliefs in a way that you should be able to understand. She deserves an award for effort. here is what was written so your not aware of the terminology .. and so you will not be aware of the thinking and the conditions behind the term..too bad SL answered "" I know the meaning I just don't go along with it ... and I replied am not convinced and of course I am not convinced that SL is aware of the conditions which brought about the term.. conditions so grim for human beings that you wouldn't be allowed to keep an animal in them today
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Post by mouse on Oct 18, 2017 2:55:17 GMT -5
I don't know, mouse. I think she's pretty aware. I try to come in almost every day, and I notice she has 4 people going after her all the time, yet she tries to express her beliefs in a way that you should be able to understand. She deserves an award for effort. there are not four people ""going after her"" all the time... there are those 3-4regularily answering her posts and allegations and with some very informative and considered posts as well... at least we take the time to answer SLs posts perhaps you would rather we all sat back and answerd nothing.. perhaps you would let misinformation pass without coment it isn't personal as in ""going after her""... because once away from the subjects of eck every one is perfectly civil
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 18, 2017 3:35:17 GMT -5
I don't know, mouse. I think she's pretty aware. I try to come in almost every day, and I notice she has 4 people going after her all the time, yet she tries to express her beliefs in a way that you should be able to understand. She deserves an award for effort. here is what was written so your not aware of the terminology .. and so you will not be aware of the thinking and the conditions behind the term..too bad SL answered "" I know the meaning I just don't go along with it ... and I replied am not convinced and of course I am not convinced that SL is aware of the conditions which brought about the term.. conditions so grim for human beings that you wouldn't be allowed to keep an animal in them today Terminology changes with time, but I have lived long enough to know most of their meanings. You must think I have my head in the clouds all the time? I do live in this World, so as aware of worldly matters as you are.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 18, 2017 3:51:55 GMT -5
I don't know, mouse. I think she's pretty aware. I try to come in almost every day, and I notice she has 4 people going after her all the time, yet she tries to express her beliefs in a way that you should be able to understand. She deserves an award for effort. there are not four people ""going after her"" all the time... there are those 3-4regularily answering her posts and allegations and with some very informative and considered posts as well... at least we take the time to answer SLs posts perhaps you would rather we all sat back and answerd nothing.. perhaps you would let misinformation pass without coment it isn't personal as in ""going after her""... because once away from the subjects of eck every one is perfectly civil I AM on this forum to converse with people, so of course posts are important to me. I am not in the least bit phased by your remarks, but it does seem to me that you are failing to understand anything about ECKANKAR that I post, which is why I use Biblical terminology. You seem to understand that easier.
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Post by mouse on Oct 18, 2017 4:14:21 GMT -5
here is what was written so your not aware of the terminology .. and so you will not be aware of the thinking and the conditions behind the term..too bad SL answered "" I know the meaning I just don't go along with it ... and I replied am not convinced and of course I am not convinced that SL is aware of the conditions which brought about the term.. conditions so grim for human beings that you wouldn't be allowed to keep an animal in them today Terminology changes with time, but I have lived long enough to know most of their meanings. You must think I have my head in the clouds all the time? I do live in this World, so as aware of worldly matters as you are. if you live in the real world why are you constantly supprised by human nature ? and say ...I didn't know that or what ever... and there are not a great many who really understand the social conditions which led to Marx remark.. and his and Engels writings which in turn led to revolution in Russia .. if it was thought the conditions in Europe were grim... Russia was much much grimer
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 18, 2017 4:26:23 GMT -5
Terminology changes with time, but I have lived long enough to know most of their meanings. You must think I have my head in the clouds all the time? I do live in this World, so as aware of worldly matters as you are. if you live in the real world why are you constantly supprised by human nature ? and say ...I didn't know that or what ever... and there are not a great many who really understand the social conditions which led to Marx remark.. and his and Engels writings which in turn led to revolution in Russia .. if it was thought the conditions in Europe were grim... Russia was much much grimer Reality is composed of the physical world and spiritual world. I am amazed by the things that I am shown in the spiritual worlds that occurs here in the physical world.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 18, 2017 4:33:03 GMT -5
Terminology changes with time, but I have lived long enough to know most of their meanings. You must think I have my head in the clouds all the time? I do live in this World, so as aware of worldly matters as you are. if you live in the real world why are you constantly supprised by human nature ? and say ...I didn't know that or what ever... and there are not a great many who really understand the social conditions which led to Marx remark.. and his and Engels writings which in turn led to revolution in Russia .. if it was thought the conditions in Europe were grim... Russia was much much grimmer. There are only so many hours in a day. I evidently haven't read up on everything.
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Post by mouse on Oct 18, 2017 4:47:34 GMT -5
if you live in the real world why are you constantly supprised by human nature ? and say ...I didn't know that or what ever... and there are not a great many who really understand the social conditions which led to Marx remark.. and his and Engels writings which in turn led to revolution in Russia .. if it was thought the conditions in Europe were grim... Russia was much much grimmer. There are only so many hours in a day. I evidently haven't read up on everything. you and the rest of us.. none of us can be up to date on every thing there simply isn't enough time or energy.. well I certainly don't have the energy to plow through acres of information every day which is why I mentioned about being aware of what was behind the comment or term that ...religion is the opium of the people... if you take the words at face value its pretty much that you will either agree or not if you take them in context of what the social/living/working condition of the working man was when Marx wrote it then it really gets into context and religion becomes the opiate of the people with the Christian Churches doing their part as churches were part of the establishment
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 18, 2017 5:04:11 GMT -5
There are only so many hours in a day. I evidently haven't read up on everything. you and the rest of us.. none of us can be up to date on every thing which is why I mentioned about being aware of what was behind the comment or term that ...religion is the opium of the people... if you take the words at face value its pretty much that you will either agree or not if you take them in context of what the social/living/working condition of the working man was when Marx wrote it then it really gets into context and religion becomes the opiate of the people with the Christian Churches doing their part as churches were part of the establishment Even so, religion has never been an opiate for me. To me God is a reality and has to do with unconditional love. Church is only a place where like minded people gather together in order to listen to what they consider God's truth.
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Post by mouse on Oct 18, 2017 5:36:24 GMT -5
you and the rest of us.. none of us can be up to date on every thing which is why I mentioned about being aware of what was behind the comment or term that ...religion is the opium of the people... if you take the words at face value its pretty much that you will either agree or not if you take them in context of what the social/living/working condition of the working man was when Marx wrote it then it really gets into context and religion becomes the opiate of the people with the Christian Churches doing their part as churches were part of the establishment Even so, religion has never been an opiate for me. To me God is a reality and has to do with unconditional love. Church is only a place where like minded people gather together in order to listen to what they consider God's truth. what it is to you personally is irelevent in a way although I would say that religion has been very important in your life and you aceptence of what ever life threw at you its what it does to the majority mindset.. how its plays out in the social order of things... how it manipulates aceptence of what people endure on promises and even that its right that they endure and accept the life they have to know their place how the promises womders of the after life make a present existence acceptable religions through out all known history and even those histories we only have glimpses of.. all have one thing in common and that is religion and Gods.. multitudes of Gods and on the other side devils.. satan.. evils good cop v bad cop played out on the stage of humamanities existence and yes some religions/Gods have done good things its up to the individual to work out does the good outweigh the bad or does the bad out weigh the good... in the west at this period of time there is less interest in Gods and certainly much less interest in religions one of the main reasons is people have more information an other is that religion isn't as need as an opiate to deaden the pain of every day life
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Post by fretslider on Oct 18, 2017 5:54:57 GMT -5
You claim that you experience realities that nobody else can share... Dream on, as they say. They could be sharing the same experiences but by their attitude they have chosen not to allow it to happen So they couldn't, but now they can? The goalposts move extremely rapidly in your world
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Post by fretslider on Oct 18, 2017 5:56:44 GMT -5
Only the religious feel that hopeless. Duh. Religious people, have everything to live for, in the Pentacostal church they sing and dance unto their Lord. Religious people are always fretting about the end of the world. That's hardly uplifting
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Post by mouse on Oct 18, 2017 6:11:51 GMT -5
""Religious people are always fretting about the end of the world. That's hardly uplifting"""
I hadn't thought about that..but its true religions and cults do dwell on the ends of the world...some religions do try to make it something to be looked forward to one thing ive never understood is that a religion which promote death and the glories of the afterlife ... sees suicide as sinfull..that doesn't make a great deal of sense... because if life after death is so great why wouldn't people wish to take a short cut to getting there
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Post by mouse on Oct 18, 2017 6:26:43 GMT -5
there are not four people ""going after her"" all the time... there are those 3-4regularily answering her posts and allegations and with some very informative and considered posts as well... at least we take the time to answer SLs posts perhaps you would rather we all sat back and answerd nothing.. perhaps you would let misinformation pass without coment it isn't personal as in ""going after her""... because once away from the subjects of eck every one is perfectly civil I AM on this forum to converse with people, so of course posts are important to me. I am not in the least bit phased by your remarks, but it does seem to me that you are failing to understand anything about ECKANKAR that I post, which is why I use Biblical terminology. You seem to understand that easier. exactly SL ...nothing wrong with the cut and trust of aposing points of view .. in fact without it forums and message boards die of boredom
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