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Post by mouse on Oct 10, 2017 2:56:13 GMT -5
Ah, but what about causality? What if someone went back, did something trivial yet removed you from history? From the timeline, if you like? Time travel is one thing, but interfering in history even unintentionally is another and could have huge ramifications. If you believe in time as linear and like an arrow flowing from past through present to future it's a problem. But that's not how time actually IS; just how we experience it. History is pretty much what the historians on the winning side decide it is. I don't actually believe that to be true. granted the winning side don't care for their misdeeds to be flaunted...but there are parts of histories which can be proven regardless of winning or losing and isn't that what makes it so fasenating..finding all the bits which connect to a time/era/place
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Post by fretslider on Oct 10, 2017 6:49:46 GMT -5
Ah, but what about causality? What if someone went back, did something trivial yet removed you from history? From the timeline, if you like? Time travel is one thing, but interfering in history even unintentionally is another and could have huge ramifications. If you believe in time as linear and like an arrow flowing from past through present to future it's a problem. But that's not how time actually IS; just how we experience it. History is pretty much what the historians on the winning side decide it is. smiley 1 I just lurv the arrogance and hubris of this post! Aren't we fortunate to have Gypsy Rose-Lin on hand to explain chrono-theoretical principals. I really am looking forward to her explanation of the Causal Loop. But just in case... Are Causal Loops Impossible?
The idea of causal loops is sometimes seen as hosting an inherent paradox.
Over to our Time Queen.....
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Post by beth on Oct 10, 2017 11:51:20 GMT -5
Almost ‘Last night I dreamt I went to Manderley again. ah thanks Jessie.. I knew I hadn't remembered it properly
beth wrote""How do famous first lines in literature relate to daft beliefs?"" it was the word.. dreamt.. as it had been put forward on another thread that dreams are real and actual happenings and should be recognised as such ...
so if its some ones beliefe then.. imo it fits into daft beliefes
I don't believe dreams are to be "believed", but I do think they are a clue to what's going on in our subconscious, therefore, somewhat important. I've had vivid dreams most of my life. Joseph (where IS Joe, btw?) is an excellent dream interpreter, but those old threads wore themselves out. I'm not sure what you mean, but most of us dream, so how can dreams be daft beliefs?
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 10, 2017 15:50:05 GMT -5
If you believe in time as linear and like an arrow flowing from past through present to future it's a problem. But that's not how time actually IS; just how we experience it. History is pretty much what the historians on the winning side decide it is. smiley 1 I just lurv the arrogance and hubris of this post! Aren't we fortunate to have Gypsy Rose-Lin on hand to explain chrono-theoretical principals. I really am looking forward to her explanation of the Causal Loop. But just in case... Are Causal Loops Impossible?
The idea of causal loops is sometimes seen as hosting an inherent paradox.
Over to our Time Queen..... I'm NOT impressed by YOUR habitual hubris and arrogance. What I posted was not in any way confrontational or abusive and the fact you decided to try and patronise me is a sure sign that you've lost the argument. You've dragged in 'time' and 'causality' and laid down the law just like Scottish Lassie does. If I didn't know that you're NOT stupid I'd have seriously wondered if you WERE on the basis of that post. Since you DO know that you're oversimplifying like mad maybe YOU should show a little more humility. You're as incapable of doubt as any religious fundamentalist.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 10, 2017 23:32:06 GMT -5
A MAN has been arrested after claiming to be a time traveller from 2048 sent back to warn people about a 2018 alien invasion. Officers in Casper, Wyoming, said the Bryant Johnson, from central Wyoming, in the US, was arrested for public intoxication. Casper police said the man they encountered at 10.30pm on Monday claimed he was from the year 2048. The suspect told police he wanted to warn the people of Casper that aliens will arrive next year, and that they should leave as soon as possible. He asked to speak to the "president" of the town, about 170 miles (270 kilometres) northwest of Cheyenne. According to police, the man told them he was only able to time travel because aliens filled his body with alcohol. He said that the plan had gone wrong and he was supposed to be transported back to 2018, not 2017. Police said he smelt of alcohol, and spoke with slightly slurred speech, but he said to them: “The aliens were coming next year and we needed to make sure to leave as fast as possible.” Officers did not believe the man's claims and arrested him as a drunk. www.express.co.uk/news/weird/863223/time-traveller-2048-aliens-invasion-ufo-2018Makes a change from seeing god I suppose. Hi Fretslider, I think that time is static as everything is the here and now and people can time travel. I have travelled back in time also. For the scoffers, I HAVE seen God's face.
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Post by mouse on Oct 11, 2017 3:17:08 GMT -5
ah thanks Jessie.. I knew I hadn't remembered it properly
beth wrote""How do famous first lines in literature relate to daft beliefs?"" it was the word.. dreamt.. as it had been put forward on another thread that dreams are real and actual happenings and should be recognised as such ...
so if its some ones beliefe then.. imo it fits into daft beliefes
I don't believe dreams are to be "believed", but I do think they are a clue to what's going on in our subconscious, therefore, somewhat important. I've had vivid dreams most of my life. Joseph (where IS Joe, btw?) is an excellent dream interpreter, but those old threads wore themselves out. I'm not sure what you mean, but most of us dream, so how can dreams be daft beliefs? it is the belief that a dream is a real time happening and should be alnowledged as such that is imo a daft beliefe . I know and fully accept dreams can/are be our subconscious.. a worry or an apprehension.. happy or what ever..
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Post by fretslider on Oct 11, 2017 7:31:16 GMT -5
smiley 1 I just lurv the arrogance and hubris of this post! Aren't we fortunate to have Gypsy Rose-Lin on hand to explain chrono-theoretical principals. I really am looking forward to her explanation of the Causal Loop. But just in case... Are Causal Loops Impossible?
The idea of causal loops is sometimes seen as hosting an inherent paradox.
Over to our Time Queen..... I'm NOT impressed by YOUR habitual hubris and arrogance. What I posted was not in any way confrontational or abusive and the fact you decided to try and patronise me is a sure sign that you've lost the argument. You've dragged in 'time' and 'causality' and laid down the law just like Scottish Lassie does. If I didn't know that you're NOT stupid I'd have seriously wondered if you WERE on the basis of that post. Since you DO know that you're oversimplifying like mad maybe YOU should show a little more humility. You're as incapable of doubt as any religious fundamentalist. You've dragged in 'time' and 'causality' and laid down the law just like Scottish Lassie does.No I haven't, I asked: Are Causal Loops Impossible? You didn't answer. Nice rant, though.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 11, 2017 7:43:28 GMT -5
A MAN has been arrested after claiming to be a time traveller from 2048 sent back to warn people about a 2018 alien invasion. Officers in Casper, Wyoming, said the Bryant Johnson, from central Wyoming, in the US, was arrested for public intoxication. Casper police said the man they encountered at 10.30pm on Monday claimed he was from the year 2048. The suspect told police he wanted to warn the people of Casper that aliens will arrive next year, and that they should leave as soon as possible. He asked to speak to the "president" of the town, about 170 miles (270 kilometres) northwest of Cheyenne. According to police, the man told them he was only able to time travel because aliens filled his body with alcohol. He said that the plan had gone wrong and he was supposed to be transported back to 2018, not 2017. Police said he smelt of alcohol, and spoke with slightly slurred speech, but he said to them: “The aliens were coming next year and we needed to make sure to leave as fast as possible.” Officers did not believe the man's claims and arrested him as a drunk. www.express.co.uk/news/weird/863223/time-traveller-2048-aliens-invasion-ufo-2018Makes a change from seeing god I suppose. Hi Fretslider, I think that time is static as everything is the here and now and people can time travel. I have travelled back in time also. For the scoffers, I HAVE seen God's face. Magic mushrooms.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 11, 2017 11:14:04 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, I think that time is static as everything is the here and now and people can time travel. I have travelled back in time also. For the scoffers, I HAVE seen God's face. Magic mushrooms. I watch what I eat.!!!
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Post by fretslider on Oct 12, 2017 6:26:47 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 15, 2017 8:36:33 GMT -5
well its a new one and then next year we can all await and Aliens will or will not appear# so far every end of the world either fully or as we know it has failed to take place.. I forget just how many there have been still if it keeps people happy to be doom mongers then so be it.. at lest its keeps them of the pills and sedation wards It will happen at some stage in time.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 15, 2017 8:40:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so stupid as to get hooked on illegal drugs or mushrooms for that matter.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 15, 2017 22:59:36 GMT -5
smiley 1 I just lurv the arrogance and hubris of this post! Aren't we fortunate to have Gypsy Rose-Lin on hand to explain chrono-theoretical principals. I really am looking forward to her explanation of the Causal Loop. But just in case... Are Causal Loops Impossible?
The idea of causal loops is sometimes seen as hosting an inherent paradox.
Over to our Time Queen..... I'm NOT impressed by YOUR habitual hubris and arrogance. What I posted was not in any way confrontational or abusive and the fact you decided to try and patronise me is a sure sign that you've lost the argument. You've dragged in 'time' and 'causality' and laid down the law just like Scottish Lassie does. If I didn't know that you're NOT stupid I'd have seriously wondered if you WERE on the basis of that post. Since you DO know that you're oversimplifying like mad maybe YOU should show a little more humility. You're as incapable of doubt as any religious fundamentalist. If there is anyone that could be thought of as arrogant, I would say that you top the lot, even in your usernames: ladylinda and romaniprincess. Take note.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 16, 2017 5:02:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so stupid as to get hooked on illegal drugs or mushrooms for that matter. That's where your religion comes in. Opium of the people.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 16, 2017 6:47:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so stupid as to get hooked on illegal drugs or mushrooms for that matter. That's where your religion comes in. Opium of the people. I don't go around as if in a dream, but I do take notice of what I am shown and address it in a down to earth manner.
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