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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 5:01:38 GMT -5
You consistently display all the signs of smugness, condescension, arrogance and indifference to the suffering of others. Genuinely spiritual people don't go round telling everyone else how spiritual they are. That's the mark of deceivers. I'm quite willing to accept that your cult has brainwashed you but please try and show some humility and some degree of open-mindedness. I only mention the fact that I am indeed humble and God knows this. Just because I make certain statements that I know are true from my experiences, you have decided via your worldly thinking to label me smug, arrogant even immoral. I'm just trying to set you straight. When the chips are down what you think of me has no real bearing on my life, my relationship with God is far more important. I know I am loved. you constantly mention it... which make it sound as though your trying to convince your self .. empty vessals make the most noise
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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 5:10:36 GMT -5
about an hour ago mouse said: wouldn't enter my head that a powerful God capable of making an entire world/universe/infinity and beyond would need to go to such extreemes and frankly very dubious ways to communicate... i would expect an all powerful God to be far more mature and far more definite in his dealings ... read what is written ...and understand what is written ... it isn't hard or rocket science... If God is 'all powerful'then He/She/It knows what is best, so why are you casting aspersions as to Ability? err because of the allegations of powerfulness and failures of God to stop evil of all types including evil done in his name .. and you allegation that you audio and visual hallucination are god speaking to you....I contend that your all powerful God.. if capable of making world/humansd blah blah ... should be quite capable of communications which are far more straight forward and far more understandable and communications that don't need you to make a contribution of money into the pockets of charlatons and rogues
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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 5:20:45 GMT -5
Being an Atheist I of course, do not believe in a God, or Satan for that matter. Even so I have studied a number of religions and this conversation is, in my opinion, a good representation, of believers in general. The idea of a God being all powerful, (they all weren’t all powerful) and having these special conversations with the individual seems to represent the believer aggrandizing themselves through having such dialog with a God. And, because of these special conversations, all others must believe that they are true. Stating that they know who the God is and why the God does somethings and not others, places that individual as a priest-like representative for all people. If such people wants to believe such a story, so what, it is their story even though there is no evidence to back it up. However, they seem to get upset, when other individuals don’t believe them. It is then that their story begins to fall apart. Consider, the individual has special knowledge of why a God acts a certain way. And not just a God but an all powerful God. Out of all of the planets in the galaxy it is this one that the all powerful God picket and in the billions of people that have lived here has selected one to be a conduit. And left them with no capability to prove the existence of that God and without any proof to convince others to also belief. And we are suppose to believe such a story. Nobody is asking you to belieive anything and by the way it is the Holy Spirit who knows what is in a person's mind and arranges for the Master to appear to provide the appropriate instruction that is relevant to the particular person. Besides that, apparently I am now being accused of having feelings of grandeur, when will it stop? you are constantly asking others to believe .. even in this post your at it again sl wrote""Nobody is asking you to belieive anything """and follow it up with waffle about the holy spirit ""and by the way it is the Holy Spirit who knows what is in a person's mind and arranges""" at least your not pretending to be a Christian any more so that's a step in the right direction
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 3, 2017 7:21:21 GMT -5
I only mention the fact that I am indeed humble and God knows this. Just because I make certain statements that I know are true from my experiences, you have decided via your worldly thinking to label me smug, arrogant even immoral. I'm just trying to set you straight. When the chips are down what you think of me has no real bearing on my life, my relationship with God is far more important. I know I am loved. you constantly mention it... which make it sound as though your trying to convince your self .. empty vessals make the most noise So you must all be empty vessels then, as you are making the same kind of noise by replying to my posts. I believe and you disbelieve.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 3, 2017 7:28:27 GMT -5
Nobody is asking you to belieive anything and by the way it is the Holy Spirit who knows what is in a person's mind and arranges for the Master to appear to provide the appropriate instruction that is relevant to the particular person. Besides that, apparently I am now being accused of having feelings of grandeur, when will it stop? you are constantly asking others to believe .. even in this post your at it again sl wrote""Nobody is asking you to belieive anything """and follow it up with waffle about the holy spirit ""and by the way it is the Holy Spirit who knows what is in a person's mind and arranges""" at least your not pretending to be a Christian any more so that's a step in the right direction What I believe or don't believe is of no consequence. So why harp on?
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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 7:28:39 GMT -5
you constantly mention it... which make it sound as though your trying to convince your self .. empty vessals make the most noise So you must all be empty vessels then, as you are making the same kind of noise by replying to my posts. I believe and you disbelieve. difference is.. ..I am not selling any thing... it doesn't make my life better or worse .. and above all I am not trying to be humble or justify rape and other unspeakable crimes ...as I said at the time... you crossed the line then as far as I am concerned
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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 7:32:12 GMT -5
you are constantly asking others to believe .. even in this post your at it again sl wrote""Nobody is asking you to belieive anything """and follow it up with waffle about the holy spirit ""and by the way it is the Holy Spirit who knows what is in a person's mind and arranges""" at least your not pretending to be a Christian any more so that's a step in the right direction What I believe or don't believe is of no consequence. So why harp on? you used Christianity for your own ends .. that is not honourable or honest that's why I mentioned it ....
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 3, 2017 7:35:44 GMT -5
If God is 'all powerful'then He/She/It knows what is best, so why are you casting aspersions as to Ability? err because of the allegations of powerfulness and failures of God to stop evil of all types including evil done in his name .. and you allegation that you audio and visual hallucination are god speaking to you....I contend that your all powerful God.. if capable of making world/humansd blah blah ... should be quite capable of communications which are far more straight forward and far more understandable and communications that don't need you to make a contribution of money into the pockets of charlatons and rogues Where do YOU get the money that allows you to live? Everyone needs it or we would all starve.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 3, 2017 7:48:25 GMT -5
So you must all be empty vessels then, as you are making the same kind of noise by replying to my posts. I believe and you disbelieve. difference is.. ..I am not selling any thing... it doesn't make my life better or worse .. and above all I am not trying to be humble or justify rape and other unspeakable crimes ...as I said at the time... you crossed the line then as far as I am concerned The only difference in what you believe and what I believe is: you believe all the killing etc is done randomly, whilst I believe that we have instigated it ourselves by past behaviour. It happens regardless what either of us believes.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 3, 2017 7:53:48 GMT -5
What I believe or don't believe is of no consequence. So why harp on? you used Christianity for your own ends .. that is not honourable or honest that's why I mentioned it .... EXCUSES!!! EXCUSES!!! EXCUSES!!!
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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 8:01:27 GMT -5
err because of the allegations of powerfulness and failures of God to stop evil of all types including evil done in his name .. and you allegation that you audio and visual hallucination are god speaking to you....I contend that your all powerful God.. if capable of making world/humansd blah blah ... should be quite capable of communications which are far more straight forward and far more understandable and communications that don't need you to make a contribution of money into the pockets of charlatons and rogues Where do YOU get the money that allows you to live? Everyone needs it or we would all starve.!!! the picture in the attic makes it for me at dead of night and a relative of the tooth faily puts a bundle under my pillow every night
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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 8:04:00 GMT -5
difference is.. ..I am not selling any thing... it doesn't make my life better or worse .. and above all I am not trying to be humble or justify rape and other unspeakable crimes ...as I said at the time... you crossed the line then as far as I am concerned The only difference in what you believe and what I believe is: you believe all the killing etc is done randomly, whilst I believe that we have instigated it ourselves by past behaviour. It happens regardless what either of us believes.!!! .. the difference is I believe in stopping suffering .. you excuse suffering and see it as deserved ... that is one very big difference
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Post by mouse on Dec 3, 2017 8:06:58 GMT -5
you used Christianity for your own ends .. that is not honourable or honest that's why I mentioned it .... EXCUSES!!! EXCUSES!!! EXCUSES!!! as you say your full of them... you used Christianity for your own ends......I couldn't have put it better myself
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Post by ladylinda on Dec 3, 2017 16:17:36 GMT -5
Where do YOU get the money that allows you to live? Everyone needs it or we would all starve.!!! the picture in the attic makes it for me at dead of night and a relative of the tooth faily puts a bundle under my pillow every night smiley 1
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 4, 2017 5:07:51 GMT -5
Where do YOU get the money that allows you to live? Everyone needs it or we would all starve.!!! the picture in the , soattic makes it for me at dead of night and a relative of the tooth faily puts a bundle under my pillow every night We all need to get money from somewhere in order to live, so why be so critical of another's livelyhood?
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