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Post by mouse on Nov 29, 2017 4:12:38 GMT -5
you are free to believe in what ever you wish....I also have that freedom ...I really am not at all interested in sould/dimensions/death or rebirth...the only time I have any interest is when you make silly claims which cannot be backed up or allegation assertions that you cannot back up or things for which there are rational explanations More's the pity.!!! You will never receive more enlightenment if you don't change your attitude by refusing to explore further. The way a person thinks is important to what experiences you are given. It is all up to you.!!! sorry SL but if you are enlightened .... then I am afraid I want none of it
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Post by mouse on Nov 29, 2017 4:16:19 GMT -5
ach away with ye womin your chunnering nowt but rubbish wet as watter... ills have to be fought by every generation that is the nature of the beast/evil... they don't necessarily have to fight physically... you will not change human nature in a few short years with mealymouthed empty words or all the lourve in the world two ways to look at mankind 1/God made him in his own image and gave him free will ... so mankind is what it is and where it is and its all gods fault or 2/manking scrabbled/evolved his way beyond animalistic status and in doing so had to arm/evolve himself;f with many survival intincts we in the very few short years of not having animals as our predetors and dangers... have not managed to throw off our inbred survival skills and our suspicions of each other or our needs of Gods and totems God is Spirit, we are Spirit. We inhabit a physical body so that we may have experiences that should teach us a thing or two. That is why the body dies and Soul goes to the dimension that is different from the physical plane. Then it is reborn again. nothing but cant and poppycock..still it keeps you ocupied
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Post by fretslider on Nov 29, 2017 6:32:47 GMT -5
But you have? How do you know you have come to a correct conclusion? Based on what evidence? If I am experiencing something different from what you are experiencing, means that it exists. If you believe in the truth of your experiences, then I do also. We are both in the same boat, for sure.!!! People can experience hallucinations. If they believe in the truth of what they have hallucinated they haven't come to the correct conclusion. Although they will believe they have...
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 29, 2017 17:09:20 GMT -5
More's the pity.!!! You will never receive more enlightenment if you don't change your attitude by refusing to explore further. The way a person thinks is important to what experiences you are given. It is all up to you.!!! sorry SL but if you are enlightened .... then I am afraid I want none of it It's your choice, are you afraid to know something new that is true? Maybe you will come to your senses in your next lifetime.?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 29, 2017 17:18:19 GMT -5
If I am experiencing something different from what you are experiencing, means that it exists. If you believe in the truth of your experiences, then I do also. We are both in the same boat, for sure.!!! People can experience hallucinations. If they believe in the truth of what they have hallucinated they haven't come to the correct conclusion. Although they will believe they have... By Golly.!!! You are certainly a 'stick in the mud ' and a 'doubting thomas ' as well. It looks like you believe the erroneous teaching of the psychiatrists. So be it.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 29, 2017 17:22:05 GMT -5
God is Spirit, we are Spirit. We inhabit a physical body so that we may have experiences that should teach us a thing or two. That is why the body dies and Soul goes to the dimension that is different from the physical plane. Then it is reborn again. nothing but cant and poppycock..still it keeps you ocupied As it does you.!!! Afterall, you answer my posts.!!! LOL.
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Post by men an tol on Nov 29, 2017 21:11:12 GMT -5
But you have? How do you know you have come to a correct conclusion? Based on what evidence? If I am experiencing something different from what you are experiencing, means that it exists. If you believe in the truth of your experiences, then I do also. We are both in the same boat, for sure.!!! Early Christianity was quite diverse beginning with the Gnostic School of Thought which had extensive impact on the 2nd and 3rd Centuries At its heart was —direct knowledge of God—expressed in complicated myths. During the last 75 years, previously lost Gnostic writings have reappeared, from the codices found near Nag Hammadi in Egypt in 1945 and to the Gospel of Judas into the diversity of Gnosticism. Much of what Paul Twitchell and L. Ron Hubbard claim as unique to their made-up religions come from these sources. As stated earlier at the Heart of Gnosis was direct knowledge of God. There are also different planes of existence as well as differing Gods. Of course, those who have made a commitment to Eckankar or Scientology do not want to see the reality of these sources as such will confuse that commitment with competing concepts. That is why when faced with other perspectives those who have become acolytes to these cults turn a deaf ear to the words of others, because if they don’t do that, their acceptance of the ‘cult’s’ pronouncements will collapse as a house of cards.
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Post by mouse on Nov 30, 2017 4:41:54 GMT -5
sorry SL but if you are enlightened .... then I am afraid I want none of it It's your choice, are you afraid to know something new that is true? Maybe you will come to your senses in your next lifetime.? indeed my choice..hocus pocus is wasted on me but can and will repeat if your an example of enlightenment -I want none of it
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Post by mouse on Nov 30, 2017 4:47:12 GMT -5
People can experience hallucinations. If they believe in the truth of what they have hallucinated they haven't come to the correct conclusion. Although they will believe they have... By Golly.!!! You are certainly a 'stick in the mud ' and a 'doubtful thomas ' as well. It looks like you believe the erroneous teaching of the psychiatrists. So be it. both audio and visual hallucinations .....conditions which actually are nothing what so ever to do with psychiatrists ..
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Post by mouse on Nov 30, 2017 4:48:48 GMT -5
nothing but cant and poppycock..still it keeps you ocupied As it does you.!!! Afterall, you answer my posts.!!! LOL. fcertainly I do... when you alledge and assert cant and poppycock
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Post by mouse on Nov 30, 2017 4:54:04 GMT -5
If I am experiencing something different from what you are experiencing, means that it exists. If you believe in the truth of your experiences, then I do also. We are both in the same boat, for sure.!!! Early Christianity was quite diverse beginning with the Gnostic School of Thought which had extensive impact on the 2nd and 3rd Centuries At its heart was —direct knowledge of God—expressed in complicated myths. During the last 75 years, previously lost Gnostic writings have reappeared, from the codices found near Nag Hammadi in Egypt in 1945 and to the Gospel of Judas into the diversity of Gnosticism. Much of what Paul Twitchell and L. Ron Hubbard claim as unique to their made-up religions come from these sources. As stated earlier at the Heart of Gnosis was direct knowledge of God. There are also different planes of existence as well as differing Gods. Of course, those who have made a commitment to Eckankar or Scientology do not want to see the reality of these sources as such will confuse that commitment with competing concepts. That is why when faced with other perspectives those who have become acolytes to these cults turn a deaf ear to the words of others, because if they don’t do that, their acceptance of the ‘cult’s’ pronouncements will collapse as a house of cards. theres no difference between them and the shamens of the past...tell a good tale wrapit in mysticism.. make em feel special and they will give you their monies and their souls ... twas ever thus
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Post by fretslider on Nov 30, 2017 7:16:59 GMT -5
People can experience hallucinations. If they believe in the truth of what they have hallucinated they haven't come to the correct conclusion. Although they will believe they have... By Golly.!!! You are certainly a 'stick in the mud ' and a 'doubtful thomas ' as well. It looks like you believe the erroneous teaching of the psychiatrists. So be it. It looks like you believe the erroneous teaching of the psychiatristsPsychiatrists are pseudoscientists. Snake oil salesmen. What are their teachings that you speak of?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 30, 2017 9:06:19 GMT -5
If I am experiencing something different from what you are experiencing, means that it exists. If you believe in the truth of your experiences, then I do also. We are both in the same boat, for sure.!!! Early Christianity was quite diverse beginning with the Gnostic School of Thought which had extensive impact on the 2nd and 3rd Centuries At its heart was —direct knowledge of God—expressed in complicated myths. During the last 75 years, previously lost Gnostic writings have reappeared, from the codices found near Nag Hammadi in Egypt in 1945 and to the Gospel of Judas into the diversity of Gnosticism. Much of what Paul Twitchell and L. Ron Hubbard claim as unique to their made-up religions come from these sources. As stated earlier at the Heart of Gnosis was direct knowledge of God. There are also different planes of existence as well as differing Gods. Of course, those who have made a commitment to Eckankar or Scientology do not want to see the reality of these sources as such will confuse that commitment with competing concepts. That is why when faced with other perspectives those who have become acolytes to these cults turn a deaf ear to the words of others, because if they don’t do that, their acceptance of the ‘cult’s’ pronouncements will collapse as a house of cards. As usual, you are barking up the wrong tree. What Paul Twitchell was given stems way back to Creation. He was chosen to be the bearer of the truth in this day and age and it needed to be heard by Westerners. How come I have experienced these things for myself so that the teaching of ECKANKAR is familiar to me and only become aware of this religion years after my experiences when it came to my area for the first time? It was wonderful to find a religion that explained my experiences. What do you think.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 30, 2017 9:21:45 GMT -5
By Golly.!!! You are certainly a 'stick in the mud ' and a 'doubtful thomas ' as well. It looks like you believe the erroneous teaching of the psychiatrists. So be it. It looks like you believe the erroneous teaching of the psychiatristsPsychiatrists are pseudoscientists. Snake oil salesmen. What are their teachings that you speak of? Is your memory also bad that you don't remember Joan of Arc, Salem etc. These were all supposed to be caused by hallucinations. All psychiatrists are taught that this is the case. From my experiences , they are in error.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 30, 2017 9:26:34 GMT -5
It's your choice, are you afraid to know something new that is true? Maybe you will come to your senses in your next lifetime.? indeed my choice..hocus pocus is wasted on me but can and will repeat if your an example of enlightenment -I want none of it It's your loss and no skin off my nose. Have it your way.!!!
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