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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2017 4:05:43 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, that is not the case. Everyone will eventually know. Some people are just slower to recognize the truth. Scottish Lassie, with all due respect, that says nothing. That is like me saying something like, 'I know the real truth, you don't and you never will but believe me I know the real truth. I learned from the rabbit that lives in my backyard. Often I will go out in the evening and sit and talk to the rabbit and learn all sorts of truths.' Whether you believe the things you say or not, they only get in the way of trying to develop solid communication between people. I know, I know, I don't know Eckankar so I can't know the truth. But then you don't know my rabbit. I think I could get along very well with your rabbit
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2017 4:11:46 GMT -5
what about those who ill never be able to understand their crimes..the sociopath..the psychopath..they are wired very differently along with many oth types of human conditions ..what of those who have been twisted and warpped by others in situation they have no control over ...things are not as simple as you like you make out between black and white there are a thousand shades of grey Hi Mouse, that is not the case. Everyone will eventually know. Some people are just slower to recognize the truth. sorry an all that..but it is absolutely the truth...some are wired very differently and will NEVER in their entire lives think the same as the ""norm"" are able to....it is an absolute imbuilt impossibiliy for them as their brains work differently...a situation over wich they have no control and a situation which cannot be rectifyed the fact you cannot comprehend this is your problem
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 5, 2017 5:40:05 GMT -5
Hi Lady Linda, I am a person who is chasing my spiritual side as I love God, I am certainly not ashamed of that. I am just trying to point out what spirituality is really all about, and that is believing that there are spiritual realms and we can visit them. The people with whom I am conversing do not believe this.
A person cannot be spiritual if they are not experiencing this fact, they are concentrating on all things pertaining to this physical world and couldn't care less. I happen to care, which is why I am trying to let others know, that there are other dimensions which we have to reach, step by step in order to spiritually evolve, otherwise it doesn't happen. I'm just trying to help.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 5, 2017 5:49:46 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, that is not the case. Everyone will eventually know. Some people are just slower to recognize the truth. sorry an all that..but it is absolutely the truth...some are wired very differently and will NEVER in their entire lives think the same as the ""norm"" are able to....it is an absolute imbuilt impossibiliy for them as their brains work differently...a situation over which they have no control and a situation which cannot be rectifyed the fact you cannot comprehend this is your problem Hi Mouse, when they reincarnate that can all change, It depends on their Karma. Each person is helped before they are reborn, we will all eventually reach the Godhead with all lessons learned.
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2017 5:55:10 GMT -5
Hi Lady Linda, I am a person who is chasing my spiritual side as I love God, I am certainly not ashamed of that. I am just trying to point out what spirituality is really all about and that is believing that there are spiritual realms and we can visit them. The people with whom I am conversing do not believe this. A person cannot be spiritual if they are not experiencing this fact, they are concentrating on all things pertaining to this physical world and couldn't care less. I happen to care, which is why I am trying to let others know that there are other dimensions which we have to reach, step by step in order to spiritually evolve, therwise it doesn't happen. I'm just trying to help. I would imagine that almost every normal person has a spiritual side and has moments of deep spirituality some time in their lives the fact they do not feel the need to bang on and spout about it is because those monents are very personal to them ...and quite often people do not put labels on to moments in their lives which have deep meanings for them...and just mow and then things happen which are so intense/aweinspiring/deep they are beyond words to describe as for visiting these spiritual realms..well that's your take and for you to deal with and who are you to say a person cannot be spiritual ...and that people are only concentrating on the physical plane ... spirituality can come regardless of ones beliefe in any particular god western or otherwise ...spirituality is beyond religion..age..era..gender,,education ..learning etc spirituality is as much part of humanity as eating and sleeping....spiritualty has a history as old as mankind and is well documented
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2017 6:05:51 GMT -5
sorry an all that..but it is absolutely the truth...some are wired very differently and will NEVER in their entire lives think the same as the ""norm"" are able to....it is an absolute imbuilt impossibiliy for them as their brains work differently...a situation over which they have no control and a situation which cannot be rectifyed the fact you cannot comprehend this is your problem Hi Mouse, when they reincarnate that can all change, It depends on their Karma. Each person is helped before they are reborn, we will all eventually reach the Godhead with all lessons learned. an excuse for every thing and for every thing an excuse so explain genetics for me if you will...and why some individuals suffer the same genetic horrors generation after generation .. its hardly karma is it..if its stuck in the same old groove never improving never lessening from one generation to the next
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 5, 2017 6:38:02 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, when they reincarnate that can all change, It depends on their Karma. Each person is helped before they are reborn, we will all eventually reach the Godhead with all lessons learned. an excuse for every thing and for every thing an excuse so explain genetics for me if you will...and why some individuals suffer the same genetic horrors generation after generation .. its hardly karma is it..if its stuck in the same old groove never improving never lessening from one generation to the next Hi Mouse, Even in the Bible it says till the 4th generation. The generic make up of the human body is formed according to the Karma that you still have to resolve in relation to others.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 5, 2017 6:57:53 GMT -5
Hi Lady Linda, I am a person who is chasing my spiritual side as I love God, I am certainly not ashamed of that. I am just trying to point out what spirituality is really all about and that is believing that there are spiritual realms and we can visit them. The people with whom I am conversing do not believe this. A person cannot be spiritual if they are not experiencing this fact, they are concentrating on all things pertaining to this physical world and couldn't care less. I happen to care, which is why I am trying to let others know that there are other dimensions which we have to reach, step by step in order to spiritually evolve, therwise it doesn't happen. I'm just trying to help. I would imagine that almost every normal person has a spiritual side and has moments of deep spirituality some time in their lives the fact they do not feel the need to bang on and spout about it is because those monents are very personal to them ...and quite often people do not put labels on to moments in their lives which have deep meanings for them...and just mow and then things happen which are so intense/aweinspiring/deep they are beyond words to describe as for visiting these spiritual realms..well that's your take and for you to deal with and who are you to say a person cannot be spiritual ...and that people are only concentrating on the physical plane ... spirituality can come regardless of ones beliefe in any particular god western or otherwise ...spirituality is beyond religion..age..era..gender,,education ..learning etc spirituality is as much part of humanity as eating and sleeping....spiritualty has a history as old as mankind and is well documented Hi Mouse, Having a spiritual side is of no cosequence to anyone if they do nothing about it. A person has to evolve, and that means doing things that will help them to evolve, otherwise you will die, come back to this earth again ,and still not have evolved any further, unless you make an effort to find out the truth. May the Blessings Be.
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2017 7:15:48 GMT -5
an excuse for every thing and for every thing an excuse so explain genetics for me if you will...and why some individuals suffer the same genetic horrors generation after generation .. its hardly karma is it..if its stuck in the same old groove never improving never lessening from one generation to the next Hi Mouse, Even in the Bible it says till the 4th generation. The generic make up of the human body is formed according to the Karma that you still have to resolve in relation to others. the biblical reference is to specific sexual induced conditions ..syphilis and ghonorea....which does affect for up to 4generation syphilis in particular and NOT to any other illness inherited or caught the genetic make up of the human body is formed according to one template uniform with genetics into the mixture ...karma has nothing to do with the design of the human body of which one head..four limbs one torso and two sets of ten digets is the norm of the out side and all the usual heart/lungs/liver etc etc are the inner normal design the genetics determine other features..via inherited genes ie colour.hair type/nose shape etc along with predispositions to various illnesses/abilities etc etc which sets them apart from illnesses contracted/caused by other means
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2017 7:24:59 GMT -5
I would imagine that almost every normal person has a spiritual side and has moments of deep spirituality some time in their lives the fact they do not feel the need to bang on and spout about it is because those monents are very personal to them ...and quite often people do not put labels on to moments in their lives which have deep meanings for them...and just mow and then things happen which are so intense/aweinspiring/deep they are beyond words to describe as for visiting these spiritual realms..well that's your take and for you to deal with and who are you to say a person cannot be spiritual ...and that people are only concentrating on the physical plane ... spirituality can come regardless of ones beliefe in any particular god western or otherwise ...spirituality is beyond religion..age..era..gender,,education ..learning etc spirituality is as much part of humanity as eating and sleeping....spiritualty has a history as old as mankind and is well documented Hi Mouse, Having a spiritual side is of no cosequence to anyone if they do nothing about it. A person has to evolve, and that means doing things that will help them to evolve, otherwise you will die, come back to this earth again ,and still not have evolved any further, unless you make an effort to find out the truth. May the Blessings Be. I disagree totally... your argument has no substance what so ever...that having a spiritual side is of no consequence ...a spiritual side helps all of us as individuals
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 5, 2017 9:21:31 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Even in the Bible it says till the 4th generation. The generic make up of the human body is formed according to the Karma that you still have to resolve in relation to others. the biblical reference is to specific sexual induced conditions ..syphilis and ghonorea....which does affect for up to 4generation syphilis in particular and NOT to any other illness inherited or caught the genetic make up of the human body is formed according to one template uniform with genetics into the mixture ...karma has nothing to do with the design of the human body of which one head..four limbs one torso and two sets of ten digets is the norm of the out side and all the usual heart/lungs/liver etc etc are the inner normal design the genetics determine other features..via inherited genes ie colour.hair type/nose shape etc along with predispositions to various illnesses/abilities etc etc which sets them apart from illnesses contracted/caused by other means Hi Mouse, I beg to differ, the illnesses and disabilites that happens to the physical body of a person, even the events that occur are brought about by the Karma that a person has built up over time. We can't escape it. We definitely 'reap what we sow'
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 5, 2017 9:33:59 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Having a spiritual side is of no cosequence to anyone if they do nothing about it. A person has to evolve, and that means doing things that will help them to evolve, otherwise you will die, come back to this earth again ,and still not have evolved any further, unless you make an effort to find out the truth. May the Blessings Be. I disagree totally... your argument has no substance what so ever...that having a spiritual side is of no consequence ...a spiritual side helps all of us as individuals Hi Mouse, it is of no consequence in relation to the fact that it is designed to teach us a spiritual truth. If it hasn't achieved this? then it is as if it is of no consequence. It is not just designed to make us feel good. There is a reason for everything that happens to us.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 1, 2017 0:31:30 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, If you really were a spiritual person you would know that as a person gets closer to God via spiritual enlightenment, humility becomes a way of life. You have accused me of many things, none of them nice or the truth. You couldn't get a person more humble than I. What you say won't change that.!!! Just because I am sure that I have found the truth and I am letting it be known on the forums that I frequent, you keep attacking me. All I am doing is giving my view points, which I have the right to do.There is nothing that any person can do and that is think for another person. You are welcome to YOUR thoughts. May the Blessings Be.!!! In my experience genuinely spiritual people don't go around telling other people how 'spiritual' they are. I remember when Teresa of Avila (yes, Saint Teresa) was being praised by her fellow nuns and one of them said to her: 'it must be wonderful to be like you.' Teresa answered, 'what do you think I am, a saint?' That answer alone shows WHY she WAS a saint. So try and stop boasting and being condescending to the rest of us. As Cromwell said, 'I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, consider it possible you may be wrong.' Hi BigLin, I know that I am a spiritual person, but from the beginning you have been doing nothing but telling me that I have been arrogant. I'm just stating a fact and this obviously irritates you, I believe in speaking the truth at all times.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 1, 2017 3:58:43 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, If you really were a spiritual person you would know that as a person gets closer to God via spiritual enlightenment, humility becomes a way of life. You have accused me of many things, none of them nice or the truth. You couldn't get a person more humble than I. What you say won't change that.!!! Just because I am sure that I have found the truth and I am letting it be known on the forums that I frequent, you keep attacking me. All I am doing is giving my view points, which I have the right to do.There is nothing that any person can do and that is think for another person. You are welcome to YOUR thoughts. May the Blessings Be.!!! In my experience genuinely spiritual people don't go around telling other people how 'spiritual' they are. I remember when Teresa of Avila (yes, Saint Teresa) was being praised by her fellow nuns and one of them said to her: 'it must be wonderful to be like you.' Teresa answered, 'what do you think I am, a saint?' That answer alone shows WHY she WAS a saint. So try and stop boasting and being condescending to the rest of us. As Cromwell said, 'I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, consider it possible you may be wrong.' Hi BigLin, Why should I? If by my experiences I know that I am being shown the truth. I trust the Holy Spirit.!!! I do believe that each person is where they are meant to be, receiving what they need according to what they have put into life. We reap what we sow.
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Post by ladylinda on Sept 1, 2017 8:44:08 GMT -5
In my experience genuinely spiritual people don't go around telling other people how 'spiritual' they are. I remember when Teresa of Avila (yes, Saint Teresa) was being praised by her fellow nuns and one of them said to her: 'it must be wonderful to be like you.' Teresa answered, 'what do you think I am, a saint?' That answer alone shows WHY she WAS a saint. So try and stop boasting and being condescending to the rest of us. As Cromwell said, 'I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, consider it possible you may be wrong.' Hi BigLin, I know that I am a spiritual person, but from the beginning you have been doing nothing but telling me that I have been arrogant. I'm just stating a fact and this obviously irritates you, I believe in speaking the truth at all times. Well, it's a fact that you ARE arrogant. I believe in telling the truth too and the truth is that if you WERE a spiritual person you would be humble. So since you are NOT humble you are clearly NOT a spiritual person.
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