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Post by fretslider on Jul 26, 2016 4:23:48 GMT -5
About 150 migrants, mainly from Afghanistan and Pakistan, on Monday started a hunger strike in a field in Serbia on the border with Hungary to demand passage to the European Union. The migrants on hunger strike, wearing red baseball hats, told Reuters they had travelled by train and on foot. Some said they have already been deported back to Serbia. They said said they would refuse food until Hungary opens the border. Brave men of fighting age who should be fighting for their country.
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Post by mouse on Jul 26, 2016 6:58:47 GMT -5
let them starve..i wonder if they will still be sitting when winter hits is there any good reason WHY Hungary should open its borders is there any good reason why a nation should be held to ransome by cowardly males..who think they have a right to things they have not earned what utter cowards these people are...make your own countries better rather than trying to bring other countries into ruin cowards to a man....pity they didn't show such questionable back bone in their own countries isn't....whoops I forgot they only behave like this in civilised countries,,in Pakistan and Afghanistan they wouldn't dare... sadly so many of these migrants are under delusions they have a right to demand..mmmm sorry to tell you boys times are a changing Pakistan had the opportunity to be a shinning light... a new country with every thing going for it except its mindsets and what happened it became a by word for ignorance..intollorance..corruption etc
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 8:35:34 GMT -5
let them starve..i wonder if they will still be sitting when winter hits is there any good reason WHY Hungary should open its borders is there any good reason why a nation should be held to ransome by cowardly males..who think they have a right to things they have not earned what utter cowards these people are...make your own countries better rather than trying to bring other countries into ruin cowards to a man....pity they didn't show such questionable back bone in their own countries isn't....whoops I forgot they only behave like this in civilised countries,,in Pakistan and Afghanistan they wouldn't dare... sadly so many of these migrants are under delusions they have a right to demand..mmmm sorry to tell you boys times are a changing Pakistan had the opportunity to be a shinning light... a new country with every thing going for it except its mindsets and what happened it became a by word for ignorance..intollorance..corruption etc Why not just write, "Let them eat cake"? Right to demand? Great Britain certainly demanded their subservience back in the day, when she was a viable abusive empire. I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion of India/Pakistan.
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Post by Soulman on Jul 26, 2016 12:59:03 GMT -5
scheme designed to offer Syrian refugees a fresh start away from their war-torn homeland has backfired after two families said the Scottish island they were sent to is "full of old people waiting to die" and they would rather be in Glasgow or Manchester. In another media report it was stated that the families wanted to be among Arabs so they could learn the language better....really among those who are presumably speaking in their native tongue.....hmmm. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/25/syrian-refugees-resettled-on-remote-scottish-island-of-bute-comp/
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Post by Jessiealan on Jul 26, 2016 13:05:15 GMT -5
What do their "wants" have to do with it. They should have the common sense to first take care of their needs and work their way up to being able to address their wants.
I can just imagine how strange it might seem for city people to be thrust into rural life, but it is up to them to make their dreams come true.
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Post by mouse on Jul 27, 2016 4:20:35 GMT -5
let them starve..i wonder if they will still be sitting when winter hits is there any good reason WHY Hungary should open its borders is there any good reason why a nation should be held to ransome by cowardly males..who think they have a right to things they have not earned what utter cowards these people are...make your own countries better rather than trying to bring other countries into ruin cowards to a man....pity they didn't show such questionable back bone in their own countries isn't....whoops I forgot they only behave like this in civilised countries,,in Pakistan and Afghanistan they wouldn't dare... sadly so many of these migrants are under delusions they have a right to demand..mmmm sorry to tell you boys times are a changing Pakistan had the opportunity to be a shinning light... a new country with every thing going for it except its mindsets and what happened it became a by word for ignorance..intollorance..corruption etc Why not just write, "Let them eat cake"? Right to demand? Great Britain certainly demanded their subservience back in the day, when she was a viable abusive empire. I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion of India/Pakistan. starve them is the title of the thread..... Funnily enough we DID not INVADE India and Pakistand did not exist back in the day...so get it right [if you want invasion it was the ottomans who Invaded India] abuses happened..but what we call abuses were par for the course back in the day..the conditions of our own people were very dire indeed..abuses were the norm I will Never apologise for some thing I did not personally do..and I will not apologise for societal norms across the planet before I was born so back to today ...we do not have to entertain the millions of people who wish to enter Europe for one very simple reason its unsustainable..financially socially and medically..housing infrastructure etc etc ...there are already millions that have entered Europe and even they are saying enough Hungary has absolutely no responsibility toward mirgants of any description nor do any others of the European countries...once it would be asylum seekers seeking peace or freedom now its all about freebies and those freebies are on the brink of extinction ...the golden goose is limping as for the UK..well we are full to bursting...enough is enough if you wish to walk your life in sackcloth and ashes over slavery in America from its earliest times to the plantations of the south... the conditions of the ships on the Hudson containing the POW wounded during the civil war right through to the treatment of the Amerind and the appalling living conditions of new migrants and the brutal treatment of white slaves via indentured servants.. if we are to start raking up the past let those without sin cast the first stone...not one country on the planet has a blameless past..remember that.. and never judge the past by todays standards
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Post by mouse on Jul 27, 2016 4:33:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 5:54:29 GMT -5
Why not just write, "Let them eat cake"? Right to demand? Great Britain certainly demanded their subservience back in the day, when she was a viable abusive empire. I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion of India/Pakistan. starve them is the title of the thread..... Funnily enough we DID not INVADE India and Pakistand did not exist back in the day...so get it right [if you want invasion it was the ottomans who Invaded India] abuses happened..but what we call abuses were par for the course back in the day..the conditions of our own people were very dire indeed..abuses were the norm I will Never apologise for some thing I did not personally do..and I will not apologise for societal norms across the planet before I was born so back to today ...we do not have to entertain the millions of people who wish to enter Europe for one very simple reason its unsustainable..financially socially and medically..housing infrastructure etc etc ...there are already millions that have entered Europe and even they are saying enough Hungary has absolutely no responsibility toward mirgants of any description nor do any others of the European countries...once it would be asylum seekers seeking peace or freedom now its all about freebies and those freebies are on the brink of extinction ...the golden goose is limping as for the UK..well we are full to bursting...enough is enough if you wish to walk your life in sackcloth and ashes over slavery in America from its earliest times to the plantations of the south... the conditions of the ships on the Hudson containing the POW wounded during the civil war right through to the treatment of the Amerind and the appalling living conditions of new migrants and the brutal treatment of white slaves via indentured servants.. if we are to start raking up the past let those without sin cast the first stone...not one country on the planet has a blameless past..remember that.. and never judge the past by todays standards Britain did not invade Britain/Pakistan? Hmmm... you mean that was all made up? Maybe a conspiracy theory? Gandhi was delusional? Maybe he just *starved* for nothing.
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Post by mouse on Jul 27, 2016 6:19:27 GMT -5
no Britain did not invade Pakistan...for one very simple reason... Pakistan DID NOT EXIST ...Pakistan only came into existence AFTER partition ...do please check it out Gandhi was an Indian ....and wanted the British out of India[as was his absolute right] .that is an entirely different subject than your first allegation let me quote you """" I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion ofIndia/Pakistan."" India/Pakistan.""
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 6:28:27 GMT -5
no Britain did not invade Pakistan...for one very simple reason... Pakistan DID NOT EXIST ...Pakistan only came into existence AFTER partition ...do please check it out Gandhi was an Indian ....and wanted the British out of India[as was his absolute right] .that is an entirely different subject than your first allegation let me quote you """" I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion ofIndia/Pakistan."" India/Pakistan."" Do you see that I wrote India/Pakistan twice? I wrote India/Pakistan instead of India and Pakistan because they were one nation when invaded. They were invaded.
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Post by mouse on Jul 27, 2016 6:43:20 GMT -5
no Britain did not invade Pakistan...for one very simple reason... Pakistan DID NOT EXIST ...Pakistan only came into existence AFTER partition ...do please check it out Gandhi was an Indian ....and wanted the British out of India[as was his absolute right] .that is an entirely different subject than your first allegation let me quote you """" I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion ofIndia/Pakistan."" India/Pakistan."" Do you see that I wrote India/Pakistan twice? I wrote India/Pakistan instead of India and Pakistan because they were one nation when invaded. They were invaded. Pakistan did not exist.. India existed as an Single entity Pakistan was NOT part of India ..it was created for muslims as a muslim state in the 1940,s.. the British entered India[no army was present] as a trading company late 16th hundred..the trading company was NOT an armed force..that was the beginning of involvement in India .... there was no government decree that said this is a lovely day lets create an empire..or lets invade India another part of India came via dowery of some portuhese princess etc the British Empitre actually came about more by accident than design the very first colony was New Foundland..the original setlers starved to death and no indigenous were involved in the process as at that point there were NO indigenous in the area
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 6:47:37 GMT -5
Do you see that I wrote India/Pakistan twice? I wrote India/Pakistan instead of India and Pakistan because they were one nation when invaded. They were invaded. Pakistan did not exist.. India existed as an Single entity Pakistan was NOT part of India ..it was created for muslims as a muslim state in the 1940,s.. the British entered India[no army was present] as a trading company late 16th hundred..the trading company was NOT an armed force..that was the beginning of involvement in India .... there was no government decree that said this is a lovely day lets create an empire..or lets invade India another part of India came via dowery of some portuhese princess etc the British Empitre actually came about more by accident than design the very first colony was New Foundland..the original setlers starved to death and no indigenous were involved in the process as at that point there were NO indigenous in the area You can pretend to be coy, but Britain invaded and pillaged India as it did hundreds of nations around the world. America had the courage to fight back with nothing but vision, hope, and some creativity.
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Post by mouse on Jul 27, 2016 7:47:50 GMT -5
Pakistan did not exist.. India existed as an Single entity Pakistan was NOT part of India ..it was created for muslims as a muslim state in the 1940,s.. the British entered India[no army was present] as a trading company late 16th hundred..the trading company was NOT an armed force..that was the beginning of involvement in India .... there was no government decree that said this is a lovely day lets create an empire..or lets invade India another part of India came via dowery of some portuhese princess etc the British Empitre actually came about more by accident than design the very first colony was New Foundland..the original setlers starved to death and no indigenous were involved in the process as at that point there were NO indigenous in the area You can pretend to be coy, but Britain invaded and pillaged India as it did hundreds of nations around the world. America had the courage to fight back with nothing but vision, hope, and some creativity. oh dear...you make it sound so cut and dried and it wasn't ...the realities were different...idealism.. lots and lots of politicking.. ..lots of blood and killings..on one side an army which couldn't be replaced or re issued for 6mth periods..the logistics were mindbending[same with India at a later stage]help from France[of course] and one of the German units who won an important stand off and the rest as they say is history...not a problem for me [just in case you thought it might be...] from the boris thread You deny that India was invaded , but "abuses did exist"? Like Britain abused every nation it visited?""" yes I deny India was invaded...for the very simple reason it wasnt...a trading company is NOT an invasion later there were some armed interventions of course but invasion was not how British India was created remembering that British government in India was a much much later development and given that the journey to India took three months and more and given that our population was decidedly small we had neither the man power or the capabilities to mount an invasion force nor at that point did we have a standing army ..same applied to the Americas..where it was the support of the French and Germanics which won the day.. such is history when a bad tide or a fierce storm can alter the course of history abuses happened of course they did...just as abuses have happened where ever America has visited Korea..Vietnam..Irak..Afghanistsan to mention just a few of the more recent intrusions where abuses are well catalogued and without digging into the more distant past....that is the nature of human beings they abuse given half a chance..America just as guilty as any other country on the planet ps..have never been acussed of being coy before..so that's a new one what happened in the past I can neither alter or re shape.....its done its the past...but some times we have to see the past as it was.. NOT as we would like it to be and not by the standards of todays world all very interesting though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 8:00:04 GMT -5
Live in your benighted world. There is nothing to say to people like you.
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Post by Soulman on Jul 27, 2016 12:01:40 GMT -5
Live in your benighted world. There is nothing to say to people like you. Actually having a different opinion and not having " nothing to say to people like you." seems to mean it is my way or the highway. To not listen could easily be construed as living "in your benighted world".
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