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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 13:04:23 GMT -5
Live in your benighted world. There is nothing to say to people like you. Actually having a different opinion and not having " nothing to say to people like you." seems to mean it is my way or the highway. To not listen could easily be construed as living "in your benighted world". When people make circular and repetitive arguments that fly in the face of reality, there is nowhere to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 22:15:18 GMT -5
Pakistan was partioned from India on August 14, 1947....until that day Pakistan did not exist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 1:01:52 GMT -5
scheme designed to offer Syrian refugees a fresh start away from their war-torn homeland has backfired after two families said the Scottish island they were sent to is "full of old people waiting to die" and they would rather be in Glasgow or Manchester. In another media report it was stated that the families wanted to be among Arabs so they could learn the language better....really among those who are presumably speaking in their native tongue.....hmmm. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/25/syrian-refugees-resettled-on-remote-scottish-island-of-bute-comp/The Daily Mail or another of its ilk?
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Post by mouse on Jul 28, 2016 3:01:01 GMT -5
Live in your benighted world. There is nothing to say to people like you. what ever you wish.. one of the main problems with the past is its not straight forward..and is far more complex than commonly held myths and generalities[which we all fall into ]..and its used and abused without taking into account the realities and logistics of past times I am no lover or supporter of Empire..any Empire past or present to bring the idea of EMPIRE UP TO DATE....yesterday a comment was made about the poor being goaded into voting exit[quite untrue of course]in the referenda the EU is nothing but the concept of Empire brought up to date and modernised...areas brought under one governmental control ..ergo Empire Sympathy for India wanting to leave the erstwhile British Empire....but castigation for the British daring to wish to leave the European Empire...very double standards
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Post by mouse on Jul 28, 2016 3:02:43 GMT -5
scheme designed to offer Syrian refugees a fresh start away from their war-torn homeland has backfired after two families said the Scottish island they were sent to is "full of old people waiting to die" and they would rather be in Glasgow or Manchester. In another media report it was stated that the families wanted to be among Arabs so they could learn the language better....really among those who are presumably speaking in their native tongue.....hmmm. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/25/syrian-refugees-resettled-on-remote-scottish-island-of-bute-comp/The Daily Mail or another of its ilk? no the telegraph complete with photographs...its no use trying to avoid every media report that doesn't suit
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Post by mouse on Jul 28, 2016 3:08:29 GMT -5
Actually having a different opinion and not having " nothing to say to people like you." seems to mean it is my way or the highway. To not listen could easily be construed as living "in your benighted world". When people make circular and repetitive arguments that fly in the face of reality, there is nowhere to go. when people argue from a basis which is patently untrue..there can be no valid argument/discussion...every thing I wrote is documented fact plus one more small but important fact is at the point of original entry into India there was NO British..the British political concept had not at that point been thought of... the concept of British came much later as a political convienience and oddly enough areas of America were also not aquired by governmental military invasion either
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 3:18:18 GMT -5
When people make circular and repetitive arguments that fly in the face of reality, there is nowhere to go. when people argue from a basis which is patently untrue..there can be no valid argument/discussion...every thing I wrote is documented fact plus one more small but important fact is at the point of original entry into India there was NO British..the British political concept had not at that point been thought of... the concept of British came later in time for America and oddly enough America was also not aquired by governmental military invasion in the first instance either What are you talking about? America declared independence from Britain in 1776. I was the first of hundreds of declared independence from Great Britain. Maybe you should refresh your history.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 3:21:13 GMT -5
Live in your benighted world. There is nothing to say to people like you. what ever you wish.. one of the main problems with the past is its not straight forward..and is far more complex than commonly held myths and generalities[which we all fall into ]..and its used and abused without taking into account the realities and logistics of past times I am no lover or supporter of Empire..any Empire past or present to bring the idea of EMPIRE UP TO DATE....yesterday a comment was made about the poor being goaded into voting exit[quite untrue of course]in the referenda the EU is nothing but the concept of Empire brought up to date and modernised...areas brought under one governmental control ..ergo Empire Sympathy for India wanting to leave the erstwhile British Empire....but castigation for the British daring to wish to leave the European Empire...very double standards The E.U. is a confederation, not an Empire. And confederation is needed in this world. The U.S. is a confederation. You should learn to pry open your mind and see the world as it exists.
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Post by mouse on Jul 28, 2016 3:25:43 GMT -5
when people argue from a basis which is patently untrue..there can be no valid argument/discussion...every thing I wrote is documented fact plus cone more small but important fact is at the point of original entry into India there was NO British..the British political concept had not at that point been thought of... the concept of British came later in time for America and oddly enough America was also not aquired by governmental military invasion in the first instance either What are you talking about? America declared independence from Britain in 1776. I was the first of hundreds of declared independence from Great Britain. Maybe you should refresh your history. one more small but important fact is at the point of original entry into India there was NO British..the British political concept had not at that point been thought of... the concept of British came later in time for America am sorry but what dont you understand
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Post by fretslider on Jul 28, 2016 3:30:54 GMT -5
what ever you wish.. one of the main problems with the past is its not straight forward..and is far more complex than commonly held myths and generalities[which we all fall into ]..and its used and abused without taking into account the realities and logistics of past times I am no lover or supporter of Empire..any Empire past or present to bring the idea of EMPIRE UP TO DATE....yesterday a comment was made about the poor being goaded into voting exit[quite untrue of course]in the referenda the EU is nothing but the concept of Empire brought up to date and modernised...areas brought under one governmental control ..ergo Empire Sympathy for India wanting to leave the erstwhile British Empire....but castigation for the British daring to wish to leave the European Empire...very double standards The E.U. is a confederation, not an Empire. And confederation is needed in this world. The U.S. is a confederation. You should learn to pry open your mind and see the world as it exists. Perhaps you should try reading up on the EU, trying to paint it as similar to the US is laughable. The US is a Federal set-up for a start. Do you know how many presidents we have? The answer is.... Seven.
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Post by fretslider on Jul 28, 2016 3:32:57 GMT -5
no Britain did not invade Pakistan...for one very simple reason... Pakistan DID NOT EXIST ...Pakistan only came into existence AFTER partition ...do please check it out Gandhi was an Indian ....and wanted the British out of India[as was his absolute right] .that is an entirely different subject than your first allegation let me quote you """" I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion ofIndia/Pakistan."" India/Pakistan."" Like I said US education is rather suss Have they bothered with 20th century history?
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Post by mouse on Jul 28, 2016 3:35:08 GMT -5
when people argue from a basis which is patently untrue..there can be no valid argument/discussion...every thing I wrote is documented fact plus one more small but important fact is at the point of original entry into India there was NO British..the British political concept had not at that point been thought of... the concept of British came later in time for America and oddly enough America was also not aquired by governmental military invasion in the first instance either What are you talking about? America declared independence from Britain in 1776. I was the first of hundreds of declared independence from Great Britain. Maybe you should refresh your history. my history is tickity boo thank you... ive realised what the problem is...before George the 3rd....there was no British anything except geography...[the original Britons were long gone] there were the four peoples of the islands..Ireland/Wales/Scotland/England...these were then enjoined to make one unit for political convienience under the [geographical] title of Great Britain[as apposed to lesser Britain [Britany France][ie.. grande britania and petite britania]
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 3:35:11 GMT -5
The E.U. is a confederation, not an Empire. And confederation is needed in this world. The U.S. is a confederation. You should learn to pry open your mind and see the world as it exists. Perhaps you should try reading up on the EU, trying to paint it as similar to the US is laughable. The US is a Federal set-up for a start. Do you know how many presidents we have? The answer is.... Seven. I have read plenty. I also happen to be a citizen through my mother. Confederations are needed in this complex world. Britain hasn't been able to stand on its own for quite a while. Without economic and military confederation and alliance, Britain is toast.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 3:36:04 GMT -5
no Britain did not invade Pakistan...for one very simple reason... Pakistan DID NOT EXIST ...Pakistan only came into existence AFTER partition ...do please check it out Gandhi was an Indian ....and wanted the British out of India[as was his absolute right] .that is an entirely different subject than your first allegation let me quote you """" I suppose that you think that Britain "earned" her abuse and invasion ofIndia/Pakistan."" India/Pakistan."" Like I said US education is rather suss Have they bothered with 20th century history? Have you been to Harvard, Columbia, MIT? The world's finest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 3:37:29 GMT -5
What are you talking about? America declared independence from Britain in 1776. I was the first of hundreds of declared independence from Great Britain. Maybe you should refresh your history. my history is tickity boo thank you... ive realised what the problem is...before George the 3rd....there was no British... there were the four peoples of the islands..Ireland/Wales/Scotland/England...these were then enjoined to make one unit for political convienience under the [geographical] title of Great Britain[as apposed to lesser Britain [Britany France][ie.. grande britania and petite britania] Tickity boo? Oh, I can see where you're coming from.
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