|
Post by mouse on Mar 8, 2013 5:27:42 GMT -5
one can grow old waiting for an answer from hit and run assertions.....bit like the way the islamist fight 1/SO WHICH COUNTRIES HAVE BENEFITED FROM ISLAM 2/the good history of islam is? the SILENCE is deafening
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Mar 11, 2013 4:12:17 GMT -5
'Joke' about Prophet Muhammad triggers violence in Pakistan as Christians' homes are set on fire Dozens of homes were burned after a Christian was accused of blasphemy Angry mob torched the homes after the accusation became known Police say 150 people have been arrested on suspicion of starting the fires Hundreds of Christians have protested and clashed with police Have called on Pakistan's government to rebuild their homes Hundreds of Christians protesting after a Muslim mob burned their homes have clashed with police today. Dozens of homes were set alight in eastern Pakistan after a non-Muslim was accused of making offensive comments about Islam's Prophet Mohammed, police said. Officers have arrested 150 people accused of starting the fires Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291130/Joke-non-Muslim-Prophet-Muhammad-leads-violent-clashes-Christians-homes-set-fire.html#ixzz2NDkU4yS8 Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
|
|
|
Post by trevorw2539 on Mar 13, 2013 17:54:31 GMT -5
one can grow old waiting for an answer from hit and run assertions.....bit like the way the islamist fight 1/SO WHICH COUNTRIES HAVE BENEFITED FROM ISLAM 2/the good history of islam is? the SILENCE is deafening Virtually every country in the world has benefited from the Islamic Golden age. The Qur'an emphasises the importance of knowledge, placing it on a high level. It was that thirst for knowledge that in the early centuries of Islam that gave us a lot of knowledge we have today. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
|
|
Tempus Fugit
Global Facilitator
Contributing Member
Science - making religion look stupid since the 17th century.
Posts: 7,474
|
Post by Tempus Fugit on Mar 13, 2013 18:28:12 GMT -5
one can grow old waiting for an answer from hit and run assertions.....bit like the way the islamist fight 1/SO WHICH COUNTRIES HAVE BENEFITED FROM ISLAM 2/the good history of islam is? the SILENCE is deafening Virtually every country in the world has benefited from the Islamic Golden age. The Qur'an emphasises the importance of knowledge, placing it on a high level. It was that thirst for knowledge that in the early centuries of Islam that gave us a lot of knowledge we have today. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_AgeFunny how, these days, the fundies are dead against knowledge and development and science and call it unislamic. And then you've got the whole "the only schools in a kaliphate will be madrassahs" thing, not to mention the attitude to educating women.
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Mar 14, 2013 4:50:31 GMT -5
one can grow old waiting for an answer from hit and run assertions.....bit like the way the islamist fight 1/SO WHICH COUNTRIES HAVE BENEFITED FROM ISLAM 2/the good history of islam is? the SILENCE is deafening Virtually every country in the world has benefited from the Islamic Golden age. The Qur'an emphasises the importance of knowledge, placing it on a high level. It was that thirst for knowledge that in the early centuries of Islam that gave us a lot of knowledge we have today. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Agethe golden age lasted for what around 2-300 yrs and much of what islam has suposedly given is in fact debateable..they make many claims which in fact are empty the importance of knowledge didnt last very long and of course it was mohammed himself who told people not to question """seek not answer to those things which if answered will cause you pain""" the early centuries of islam gave hitler his idea of making jews wear the yellow star..not really a benefit and many other things non muslims had to adhere to the printing press built in istanbul was destroyed after a few months in 18?? and the glories that were spain in the ocupation of the moors we based on the glories that were greece and greek writings the alhambra is a monument to mathmatics rather than islamic thinking. and the indian chap a convert to islam who supossedly gave the zero [although it was known about by the dravidians I ndia and the babylonians ]and he was finally poisened as were many others... the dome was the art of the byzantiums the free thinking period of islam was one very short window in the history of islam......which is a pity...because there was much to learn from the countries and societies they were destroying in their 1400 yr rampage
|
|
|
Post by men an tol on Mar 15, 2013 14:53:32 GMT -5
“ . . . . As I said the simple answer to your question is, yes, lots of countries have benefited from Islam. Unpaltable though that is to the prejudiced it's difficult for anyone to study history and come to a different conclusion. . . . Good and bad in the history of Islam just like any other belief system. . . . What benefit has Marxism ever brought to a country? . . . None. . . . I rest my case. . . . “
That is an interesting assertion. It is comprised of an unproven statement (As I said the simple answer to your question is, yes, lots of countries have benefited from Islam); Followed by an assertion (Unpaltable though that is to the prejudiced it's difficult for anyone to study history and come to a different conclusion) turning the educational process upside down since 'no' historical analysis supports countries benefiting from Islam; Followed by another assertion using double speak to prove an untruth ( Good and bad in the history of Islam just like any other belief system); Then bringing into the dialog a subject never part of it (What benefit has Marxism ever brought to a country); To prove a position that really was never developed. (actually while Marxism was a philosophical dead end, the theory did have some things right and contributed to subsequent economic theory, that is, there was evolving from the original theories of Marx, such never happened with Islam.)
Most religions evolve over time, as the cultures of the world grow and expand Religions change to fit new perspectives and apply their basic elements to modern life while maintaining their basic faiths. Religions have two options, either evolve or become oppressive. In its roughly 1400 year history Islam is the same today as when it first began to expand by sword and blood. This violent approach to gaining the growth of members is not simply focused on people to join or die, but on the eradication of cultures not Islamic to the point that they are erased from history.
This is not just a difference in philosophy, but the Islamic acts are more suited to the peoples of pre Homo Sapien Sapien cultures and even tribal societies rarely acted with the same aggressive acts. I realize that this is not an acceptable way to talk in the niceties of modern society where the Progressive Liberal views all values as equal.
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Mar 16, 2013 4:52:34 GMT -5
""""Most religions evolve over time, as the cultures of the world grow and expand Religions change to fit new perspectives and apply their basic elements to modern life while maintaining their basic faiths. Religions have two options, either evolve or become oppressive. In its roughly 1400 year history Islam is the same today as when it first began to expand by sword and blood. This violent approach to gaining the growth of members is not simply focused on people to join or die, but on the eradication of cultures not Islamic to the point that they are erased from history.
This is not just a difference in philosophy, but the Islamic acts are more suited to the peoples of pre Homo Sapien Sapien cultures and even tribal societies rarely acted with the same aggressive acts. I realize that this is not an acceptable way to talk in the niceties of modern society where the Progressive Liberal views all values as equal.""""
beautifully put Menantol and well said
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Mar 16, 2013 4:56:15 GMT -5
""""Most religions evolve over time, as the cultures of the world grow and expand Religions change to fit new perspectives and apply their basic elements to modern life while maintaining their basic faiths. Religions have two options, either evolve or become oppressive. In its roughly 1400 year history Islam is the same today as when it first began to expand by sword and blood. This violent approach to gaining the growth of members is not simply focused on people to join or die, but on the eradication of cultures not Islamic to the point that they are erased from history.
This is not just a difference in philosophy, but the Islamic acts are more suited to the peoples of pre Homo Sapien Sapien cultures and even tribal societies rarely acted with the same aggressive acts. I realize that this is not an acceptable way to talk in the niceties of modern society where the Progressive Liberal views all values as equal.""""
beautifully put Menantol and well said
but am still waiting to hear of all the benefits which have been bestowed on mankind via islam
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Mar 16, 2013 5:09:45 GMT -5
Virtually every country in the world has benefited from the Islamic Golden age. The Qur'an emphasises the importance of knowledge, placing it on a high level. It was that thirst for knowledge that in the early centuries of Islam that gave us a lot of knowledge we have today. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_AgeFunny how, these days, the fundies are dead against knowledge and development and science and call it unislamic. And then you've got the whole "the only schools in a kaliphate will be madrassahs" thing, not to mention the attitude to educating women. the caliphate which will answer all islams problems.....in our dreams..the last caliphate was dismantled without a whimper the last caliph dying in Paris in the 1920,s [ the last eunnuch of the ottoman empire also died in Paris...] the ottoman caliphs were a history all their own..intrigue..murder..insanity..inprisonment all played their part and put European courts to shame when it came to fights for power....and yet again we have a considerable silence on the realities of the caliphate...had it been fantastic we would never hear the last of it.... but the caliphate withered away......deprived of its main income 5% of ALL booty and a % of all slaves either in flesh or sale at the slave markets.....the suez canal was more or less the final nail in its coffin and the capture of palestine put the lid on it.......even though the British didnt act as islamic law on the conquered would the fundies have always run islam..from the very first...should be no suprise islam is submission NOT peace not love not tollorance not equality not live and let live convert pay jizzyah or die...[and die they have in their millions right across the globe] allah akbar....there will be one ummah....inshallah.........so far god has not willed.. but not for want of the believer trying and efforts
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Mar 29, 2013 4:34:30 GMT -5
Saudi Arabia beheads murderer… and then CRUCIFIES his body Mohammed Rashad Khairi Hussain was convicted of murder and sodomy The Yemeni citizen had killed Pakistani national Pashteh Sayed Khan Comes after human rights charities condemned the country's practices Saudi authorities have beheaded a murderer and crucified his body after he killed and raped a Pakistani national. The kingdom's interior ministry announced the execution, stating that the man had murdered and sodomised another male. Both actions are punishable by death. 'The Yemeni citizen Mohammed Rashad Khairi Hussain killed a Pakistani, Pashteh Sayed Khan, after he committed sodomy with him,' said a statement carried by state news agency SPA Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2300656/Saudi-Arabia-beheads-murderer-CRUCIFIES-body.html#ixzz2Ov5SkIAL Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Apr 11, 2013 5:13:16 GMT -5
Polio wars escalate in Pakistan as gunman shoots dead policeman protecting a team of female aid workers •Policeman was protecting team of female polio workers in Pakistan •Another police officer was wounded in the attack •Group were working in Mardan as part of UN-backed vaccination programme •Islamic militants suspected to be behind the attack •Opponents of scheme claim it is intended to make Muslim children sterile •Attack comes after nine polio workers shot in Pakistan in December A policeman has been shot dead while protecting a team of female polio workers in Pakistan, in the latest in a series of attacks on people connected to a UN-backed vaccination programme. Recent months have seen a spate of deadly attacks on aid workers linked to the scheme - which has been condemned by some Islamic groups who claim it is intended to sterilise Muslim children - in Pakistan and in northern Nigeria. No group has claimed responsibility for the latest attack in Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province today, but suspicion has fallen on Islamic militants. Polio: The UN-backed vaccination programme has been condemned by some Islamic militants who claim it is intended to make Muslim children sterile In January seven female aid workers and a male doctor were shot dead while working for an agency vaccinating children against polio in Pakistan. The Taliban - whose leaders had repeatedly denounced the vaccination programme - denied involvement in the attacks. The next month nine female health workers were shot in northern Nigeria in two attacks around 30 minutes apart. The shootings in Nigeria were blamed on Islamist militant group Boko Haram. . Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306805/Polio-wars-escalate-Pakistan-gunman-shoots-dead-policeman-protecting-team-female-aid-workers.html#ixzz2Q9Ft6UJO Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 16:05:19 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Apr 19, 2013 3:27:08 GMT -5
that is fantastic cheff....pithy and to the point never can understand why when it comes to god/allahs will its always about death and suffering..never about living and being happy terrorists kill...coz its gods will......err if allah is so powerful he shouldn't need the help of the faithful to get rid of the kaffir famine ravages the land and people die because its gods will......and actually in so many cases its bad farming practises and bad governence
if allah was as all powerful as he is made out to be...then there should be no help required
|
|
|
Post by maggie on Apr 22, 2013 13:09:03 GMT -5
Children as young as FIVE show off their horrifying arsenal of weapons at terror training camp They are barely bigger than the assault rifles they grasp clumsily in their hands. Yet these children are being trained to become the next generation of terrorists from the age of just five. Sitting in long lines as if on a school outing, they struggle to lift deadly AK-47s as they are made to fire off a flurry of rounds, their tiny bodies getting knocked back by the recoil. Others grapple with pistols as they are brainwashed into waging Jihad on the West and becoming suicide bombers. link
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Apr 23, 2013 4:18:05 GMT -5
did any one see the docu on SHARIA courts last night?? when it was proved these courts are ignoring British law..when it comes to divorce..children etc etc I only caught the end of it..... who in their right mind would have allowed these courts to be set up....especially when our secular law in the eyes of the faithful takes seconed place over Islamic law..they need disbanding the sooner the better..
|
|