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Post by fretslider on Jan 17, 2021 8:25:53 GMT -5
A two-tier education system? The third national lockdown is starting to reveal the depth of the teaching establishment’s elitism towards the education of poor children. It took only three days of schools being closed to most pupils before headteachers and teaching unions began to express their horror at the number of poor kids turning up at the school gates because it is their only chance of getting an education. Instead of being welcomed with a can-do attitude and a determination to give a fair chance to all, these kids were accused of trying to abuse the system and of endangering lives. ‘Fears schools will be overwhelmed by laptopless pupils’, said the BBC, after the headteachers’ union, NAHT, said nearly a third of the 2,000 members who joined an online meeting reported attendance levels of between 20 to 30 per cent at their schools. Only vulnerable pupils and the children of key workers are currently allowed to attend school. However, these groups are larger now than during the first wave of closures last spring. This is because the government has widened the definition of both groups. Key workers now include a greater range of people who provide vital manual and caring services, following criticism that during the early stages of the pandemic the focus was too exclusively on NHS workers. Crucially, the vulnerable category now includes pupils without access to a laptop or a quiet place to study at home. Research conducted by the Sutton Trust at the time of the first lockdown showed that just 23 per cent of kids were taking part in live and recorded online lessons every day, with working-class children less likely to do so than middle-class children. Less than a quarter of the most deprived schools had an online platform to deliver learning. And less than half of parents without higher-education qualifications felt able to direct their children’s learning. But the educational establishment seems to have little appreciation for the terrible price in missed learning that poor children are paying. Some school leaders have described their schools as ‘rammed’ – despite a Teacher Tapp survey showing only 12 per cent of schools are more than 30 per cent full. They have also accused parents of falsely claiming to be key workers. Writing in the Guardian, one anonymous headteacher, angry at ‘the parents who technically qualify for a place because one of them works in a key-worker profession’, said that ‘just because you are eligible for a place doesn’t mean you should take it’. Teaching unions have also doubled down on their alarmist rhetoric, saying the increase in pupils compared to the spring could put lives at risk by spreading the virus. They seem to want children who fulfil the criteria for attendance to be turned away at the school gates. Having promised these kids a seat at the school table, the government looks set to be preparing for yet another u-turn. It is now advising that some children of key workers should not attend school so that those schools can get back to educating just the children of doctors and other teachers. In yet another blow to those trying to improve their life chances at school, this summer’s GCSEs and A-levels have been cancelled. Meanwhile, the international version of GCSE exams is to go ahead. IGCSEs are specifications popular with private, independent and grammar schools and are known as the exam of choice for the affluent classes. These kinds of schools have far greater resources for providing live lessons, individual tutor feedback and assessment. The UCL Institute of Education, using data from April, found that students at half of all private schools spent four or more hours per day on schoolwork, compared to 18 per cent for state schools. Now these pupils’ advantage is being boosted even further, as they will have the right to prove themselves in exams. Meanwhile, their state-school counterparts are being deprived of the same opportunity, and will instead have to present highly subjective teacher assessments which are of little value to universities and employers. Covid Britain is now in the throes of creating a two-tier education system. Those with money and status will automatically receive the best chances at the expense of the less fortunate. And among certain sections of the educational elite, apparently it is now legitimate to talk openly of those who work with their hands, those who live in cramped conditions, those who do not possess laptops and high-speed broadband, as a teeming, disease-ridden horde which threatens the sanctity and security of our ivory-towered schools. www.spiked-online.com/2021/01/15/covid-britains-two-tier-education-system/The new left is the new Borgeoisie.
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Post by toby1 on Jan 17, 2021 9:05:00 GMT -5
""Those with money and status will automatically receive the best chances at the expense of the less fortunate. And among certain sections of the educational elite, apparently it is now legitimate to talk openly of those who work with their hands, those who live in cramped conditions, those who do not possess laptops and high-speed broadband, as a teeming, disease-ridden horde which threatens the sanctity and security of our ivory-towered schools.""
This is not new at all it was always so and I can still clealy remember well over a half century ago when my year at Primary School was,'Streamed" and we saw all the children whose parents had a bit more cash than the rest go to the top class whilst all the children of manual workers went into the other classes. Back then each class was touching the 50 mark due to the massive amounts of unprotected fornication that took place when Squaddies returned from fighting Hitler and the subsequent rise in the birth rate which the government needed to offset all the dead Squaddies.
We all could see that despite the Teachers assurances that everybody would get the same education, that the top class was being prepared for the eleven plus then Grammar school and we were being prepared for Secondary Modern then jobs in the Steelworks, ICI Chemicals or the Military. It is how they keep the Population under the thumb.
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Post by mouse on Jan 17, 2021 12:58:31 GMT -5
am going to stand up for the system....i knew several very working class girls of the poorer families.. get scholarship to one of the top girls school in the area...... two of them left at 15.. as their fathers thought education a nonsense and they had put up with this schooling malarky for far too long... so the girls went to work.... the third on had more intelligent parents... and became a very well loved GP in the area she came from.....what is the point of wasting resources on many who its already known will never fill their potential due to their families idiotic attitudes... now attitudes have some what altered.. but there are still those who deliberately barr their children from doing well.......some parents should never be lefy in charge of their famlies............ no use just blaming the schools.. some times teacher have a very clear insight into who will and who wont.... and yes their are exceptions to every rule...........that was of course some time ago
i think in regard to the schooling issue.... there is some agravation that yet again useless parents are getting away with the things most parents are expected to do for their children...... one case was when some one remarked that x number of children of x family.. were not only at school but getting this that and the other... on the grounds the parents dont work and are not at all bright......it as some one says if they are so incompetent why were they allowed to breed children of the same variety.... then there are those whose parent flogg stuff on Ebay to say nothing of those flogging the food vouchers or expecting the supermarkets to exchange vouchers for fags and booze.. and even for toys....... the big problem is we have a huge portion of the population who are not worth bothering about.. and sadly they have been allowed to breed replicas..... which in the end pulls every one down.....trouble is in these days of socalled equality.. they are not allowed to suffer the results of their own idiocy
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Post by toby1 on Jan 17, 2021 15:19:05 GMT -5
""the big problem is we have a huge portion of the population who are not worth bothering about.. and sadly they have been allowed to breed replicas..... which in the end pulls every one down.....trouble is in these days of socalled equality.. they are not allowed to suffer the results of their own idiocy""
Useless people breed useless children, the only way a useless person can ever be made useful is if conscription was still ongoing because the forces can take a useless person and make them useful. Let us never forget that it was Tony Blair deliberately created the useless underclass by raising benefits almost to the amount a casual Labourer could earn and he did this to create a Labour voting underclass which would not work then Blair could then say,"we need Immigrants to do the dirty work that the British Workers will not do".
One reason I would gladly shoot Blair if I ever got the chance was his deliberate denigration of the British workers, because in my working life I saw British Workers doing any job that was necessary and they got little reward for their labours.
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Post by fretslider on Jan 22, 2021 5:55:46 GMT -5
""Those with money and status will automatically receive the best chances at the expense of the less fortunate. And among certain sections of the educational elite, apparently it is now legitimate to talk openly of those who work with their hands, those who live in cramped conditions, those who do not possess laptops and high-speed broadband, as a teeming, disease-ridden horde which threatens the sanctity and security of our ivory-towered schools."" This is not new at all it was always so and I can still clealy remember well over a half century ago when my year at Primary School was,'Streamed" and we saw all the children whose parents had a bit more cash than the rest go to the top class whilst all the children of manual workers went into the other classes. Back then each class was touching the 50 mark due to the massive amounts of unprotected fornication that took place when Squaddies returned from fighting Hitler and the subsequent rise in the birth rate which the government needed to offset all the dead Squaddies. We all could see that despite the Teachers assurances that everybody would get the same education, that the top class was being prepared for the eleven plus then Grammar school and we were being prepared for Secondary Modern then jobs in the Steelworks, ICI Chemicals or the Military. It is how they keep the Population under the thumb. Toby, although I went to university, I failed the 11+ I know a a few who didn't and they were every bit as 'working class' as I am, or rather was. There was social mobility and that has long been removed by the progressive teaching types. The 11+ gave the opportunity to all who took it. You will be the first to agree I'm sure that we aren't all equally intelligent. But that was in the days of domestic science, woodwork and metalwork.....
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Post by fretslider on Jan 22, 2021 6:02:57 GMT -5
am going to stand up for the system....i knew several very working class girls of the poorer families.. get scholarship to one of the top girls school in the area...... two of them left at 15.. as their fathers thought education a nonsense and they had put up with this schooling malarky for far too long... so the girls went to work.... the third on had more intelligent parents... and became a very well loved GP in the area she came from.....what is the point of wasting resources on many who its already known will never fill their potential due to their families idiotic attitudes... now attitudes have some what altered.. but there are still those who deliberately barr their children from doing well.......some parents should never be lefy in charge of their famlies............ no use just blaming the schools.. some times teacher have a very clear insight into who will and who wont.... and yes their are exceptions to every rule...........that was of course some time ago i think in regard to the schooling issue.... there is some agravation that yet again useless parents are getting away with the things most parents are expected to do for their children...... one case was when some one remarked that x number of children of x family.. were not only at school but getting this that and the other... on the grounds the parents dont work and are not at all bright......it as some one says if they are so incompetent why were they allowed to breed children of the same variety.... then there are those whose parent flogg stuff on Ebay to say nothing of those flogging the food vouchers or expecting the supermarkets to exchange vouchers for fags and booze.. and even for toys....... the big problem is we have a huge portion of the population who are not worth bothering about.. and sadly they have been allowed to breed replicas..... which in the end pulls every one down.....trouble is in these days of socalled equality.. they are not allowed to suffer the results of their own idiocy useless parents are getting away with the things most parents are expected to do for their children.But mouse, the government and the progressive teaching profession are now the experts - are schools not just places of indoctrination, but also of social engineering - drag queens included. Any complaint or opposition from a parent now puts them in a precarious position - they are already guilty of wrongthink; not in favour of their child going to a mosque or having a drag queen read to their child. Even refusing to let a boy wear a skirt. Parents have not been able to raise a child according to their values and beliefs for a long time now. Whilst some are plainly less than useless, many are not. And they have no say.
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Post by mouse on Jan 22, 2021 7:00:59 GMT -5
Toby.. insist on having first shot at blair... what an odious and utterly disgusting creature blair is...... not content with making money via some of the worst regimes on the planet... we ahos not overly bright but very well educated we are now informed how wealthy his equally odious wife and brats are.... including Euan the would be polito.. who is worth 75 million via his firm which deals in education....mmmmm wonder where that made a proffit... and the other son Nick....is a football manager... gathers footballers from gawd knows where and also makes millions... doesnt produce home grown as they are not financially worthy....and the girl is now a barrister and she too..has a portfolia...... so my turn first Toby to chuck rocks at the murdering slime
funny how the rightons are against th Grammer schools and plus etc... we cannt encourage people to think......
guess what is yet another hang over of colonialism and must be cancelled....... the three wise monkeys ....i kid you not.... to monkeys to day... Chaucer yesterday and who can even hazard a guess at tomorrow.......
the BBC is complaining millions of older people have canceled their licence fee standing orders........ and its getting worried..........Bring the wretched BBC down.... i know i will never see john snow rumage for food in a scip.... but its a picture i treasure in my head
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Post by toby1 on Jan 22, 2021 9:30:56 GMT -5
Blair could have pushed for British firms to expand the Apprenticeship system but he did not. I cannot think of any UK Prime Minister that walked into number 10 with so many of the Country behind him, Blair had so much goodwill and he could have done anything but he squandered it all and we see the consequences today. I visited many German firms for my job, one in particular made massive reciprocating pumps to extract heavy oil out of the wells and as we were surveying these Pumps I noticed the Foreman with a group of young lads with clean overalls and white helmets, these were the years crop of apprentices taken from technical schools and would be trained to perform the various tasks necessary to produce the pumps. I didn't see this in UK firms, they abandoned Apprenticeships as waste of money and ,'we can hire Polish if we need anybody extra'.
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Post by toby1 on Jan 22, 2021 9:37:41 GMT -5
""But mouse, the government and the progressive teaching profession are now the experts - are schools not just places of indoctrination, but also of social engineering - drag queens included. Any complaint or opposition from a parent now puts them in a precarious position - they are already guilty of wrongthink; not in favour of their child going to a mosque or having a drag queen read to their child. Even refusing to let a boy wear a skirt. Parents have not been able to raise a child according to their values and beliefs for a long time now. Whilst some are plainly less than useless, many are not. And they have no say.""
The indoctrination of children is a deliberate policy that was started under Harold Wilson. The Family next door to our home in Middlesbrough were fairly well off, the guy was Foreman Electrician but one day he told my Dad he was going to Teacher Training school to qualify even though his salary would be halved. My Dad asked him what he hoped to achieve and he told my Dad point blank that he was going to point all those young minds in the right direction, which was a Socialist direction. He thought my Dad was a Socialist otherwise maybe he would have said nothing but I later found out that it WAS stated Labour policy to promote the Labour idea of what children had to be learning.
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Post by toby1 on Jan 22, 2021 12:16:45 GMT -5
""But that was in the days of domestic science, woodwork and metalwork.""
I liked Woodwork and Metalwork at school and I was good at it, I also used to regularly come top of the class in Physics and I think that's because I quickly grasped what it was all about, I was in the same school as Chris Rea the Singer, he was a couple of years younger, in the class with a younger Brother who I might add, was more clever than I was, he also did go to Uni but wasted his chances. Back in those days there was an acceptance that the UK needed clever manual workers and a certain amount of University grads but this changed over the years. Those that say that you cannot earn money without going to Uni are plain wrong, I remember the first trip to a Pipeline being constructed in the UK when Gas was found, the Welders were on a thousand quid per week, which is still a good wage 50 plus years later. Some of these Welders had so much gold ornaments around their necks and wrists they could hardly walk and a new car every month was de-rigeur for these guys. Those were the days !
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Post by fretslider on Jan 23, 2021 7:46:18 GMT -5
Blair could have pushed for British firms to expand the Apprenticeship system but he did not. I cannot think of any UK Prime Minister that walked into number 10 with so many of the Country behind him, Blair had so much goodwill and he could have done anything but he squandered it all and we see the consequences today. I visited many German firms for my job, one in particular made massive reciprocating pumps to extract heavy oil out of the wells and as we were surveying these Pumps I noticed the Foreman with a group of young lads with clean overalls and white helmets, these were the years crop of apprentices taken from technical schools and would be trained to perform the various tasks necessary to produce the pumps. I didn't see this in UK firms, they abandoned Apprenticeships as waste of money and ,'we can hire Polish if we need anybody extra'. WE had an excellent apprenticeship system with day release etc and that was deliberately destroyed by one Margaret Thatcher.
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Post by toby1 on Jan 23, 2021 8:55:11 GMT -5
""WE had an excellent apprenticeship system with day release etc and that was deliberately destroyed by one Margaret Thatcher.""
That's a pity ! I am a big fan of apprenticeships but I must mention that at the school I attended, there was no effort made to promote Apprenticeships. When I started in Industry I met other people doing the same work, they were surprised I had never heard of ,"City and Guilds", qualifications but these were never discussed at my Secondary Modern.
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Post by mouse on Jan 23, 2021 9:11:03 GMT -5
yesterday i wondered what next would be banned .. and i can report its Beowulf... now i dont know the reasoning but some how i cannot think the reasoning can have any thing to do with colonialism[usual excuse] or racism also [usual excuse..... i think that with both Chaucer and Beowulf being cast out it becomes very clear... that this has nothing to do with either racism or colonialism and is far more dangerous... a canclation of white histoy and culture.... for some thing which has to be beyond a left agenda and more a global dumb down..... the uni is partof the Russel group... who i know nothing abut as yet... but i shall make it mt aim... to know who what and why
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Post by toby1 on Jan 23, 2021 13:48:30 GMT -5
I can remember the first time I read Beowulf and it was down to my Mother who brought some books back from a Bring and Buy sale, one book was printed back in 1906 and falling to pieces but still complete and it charted the very first known examples of literature and of course Beowulf was included. am at a loss as to why Beowulf would be put on the banned list but my first thought is that Beowulf is set in a small town or village on the Baltic coast and that is where blue eyed folk originated due to a genetic disorder, I know for an absolute fact that brown eyed folk are very jealous of grey, green or blue eyed folk, my Optician told me this due to the number of brown eyed folk who visit him for coloured contact lenses, I could be wrong but the woke folk don't do logic.
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Post by toby1 on Jan 23, 2021 13:52:45 GMT -5
@fretty "WE had an excellent apprenticeship system with day release etc and that was deliberately destroyed by one Margaret Thatcher.""
As I mentioned, Blair had so many years when he could have reinstated the apprenticeship system and given cash assistance to firms, he did nothing though except sending Squaddies half-equipped to fight in the useless wars. All these years later and STILL NO WMD Discovered and never any prosecution for lying either !!
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