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Post by fretslider on Feb 13, 2019 7:46:48 GMT -5
Bristol Student Union has banned a speaker from a free-speech event. The Bristol University Free Speech Society wanted to organise a panel to discuss the question, ‘Is there a free-speech problem on campus?’. And you can probably guess what happened next. Bristol’s Students’ Union gave them a clear answer to that question by banning one of the speakers. The speaker in question was Angelos Sofocleous. He is a student at Durham. Last year, after he retweeted a Spectator article titled ‘Is it a crime to say “women don’t have penises”?’, Sofocleous was accused of transphobia and duly sacked as assistant editor of a student journal, and as president-elect of the student humanist society. Bristol SU claims that its assessment of Sofocleous, in consultation with the police, raised security concerns – public disorder would be ‘very likely’ if he was allowed to speak, it said, and extra security would be needed. It gave the Free Speech Society only a week’s notice to reorganise the event – a demand the society rightly considered ‘unreasonable’. The event will still go ahead on the planned date, but without Sofocleous. An SU spokesperson says that ‘Bristol SU is committed to freedom of speech and the rights of all our students to discuss difficult and sensitive topics’. It denies accusations of censorship. But this is nonsense, of course. As Tom Slater points out on spiked, the free-speech opponents’ new line these days is that campus censorship is a myth. But somehow the campus censors still manage to outdo themselves in the banning stakes. Students’ unions and university administrators hide behind bureaucratic procedures. Often, events are cancelled – or are simply impossible to organise in the first place – because they fail to meet various arbitrary demands. Bans are rarely made explicit, but the consequences for free speech are the same. But if students’ unions are determined to carry on pretending that campus censorship isn’t a thing, you’d think they’d have the good sense not to clamp down on student events about campus censorship, as Bristol SU has. This sort of self-own isn’t even a first. Feminist Julie Bindel was once banned from speaking at the University of Manchester, at an event on feminism and free speech, organised by a student free-speech society. In 2015, students at Oxford had their free-speech magazine, called No Offence, banned from the freshers fair, and reported to the police. When campus censors are banning speakers and societies from discussing free speech, you know the free-speech problem is out of control. www.spiked-online.com/2019/02/12/censored-for-trying-to-discuss-censorship/Women do not have a penis. Men do.
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Post by mouse on Feb 20, 2019 5:32:03 GMT -5
this is why I believe in absolutely free speech... because once you start pickin at the freedoms to speak there are those who will be offended on absolutely every word so rather than make it easy for those who would enslave every one should have the freedom to sperak and hold opinion on every issue... the only recourse to those who object being their freedom to answer back so kickout the pc and let the snowflakes melt away and accept that curtailing the freedoms of others to speak freely also curtails your freedoms to speak and hold opinion
so there we are.. what we all know that females do not have penises and males do not have vaginas unless by some accident of birth or modern sugery was reading some nonsence about a man giving birth.. except it wasn't a man it was a female who decided to live as a man outwardly
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Post by toby1 on Feb 22, 2019 15:21:19 GMT -5
""Women do not have a penis. Men do."" I saw some photographs once of women who had such large clitoris that it did look like they had a penis, one was over three inches long when aroused and as she was Lesbian she was in demand as a lover. If you trawl the Internet then eventually you happen on such pictures, (I forgot the name of the site) (I was of course quite disgusted with myself for viewing such things and I did wash my eyes out with soap and water then gave myself a good thrashing)
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Post by mouse on Feb 23, 2019 4:10:51 GMT -5
""Women do not have a penis. Men do."" I saw some photographs once of women who had such large clitoris that it did look like they had a penis, one was over three inches long when aroused and as she was Lesbian she was in demand as a lover. If you trawl the Internet then eventually you happen on such pictures, (I forgot the name of the site) (I was of course quite disgusted with myself for viewing such things and I did wash my eyes out with soap and water then gave myself a good thrashing) one or even more than the one aberration doth not a penis make ….. a clitoris whether natural or medically enlarged is not a penis......similar but not the real thing
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Post by kronks on Mar 1, 2019 23:41:40 GMT -5
When you lose free speech you can kiss goodbye to all your freedoms, we are pretty much there.
The truth gets in the way of peoples political agenda.
I got banned from twitter for comparing the LGBT community to Nazi.
They have the flag and the parades and don't like free speech, what is the difference?
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Post by mouse on Mar 2, 2019 5:25:24 GMT -5
When you lose free speech you can kiss goodbye to all your freedoms, we are pretty much there. The truth gets in the way of peoples political agenda. I got banned from twitter for comparing the LGBT community to Nazi. They have the flag and the parades and don't like free speech, what is the difference? first one has to know the difference between truth and opinion
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Post by beth on Mar 2, 2019 9:59:23 GMT -5
When you lose free speech you can kiss goodbye to all your freedoms, we are pretty much there. The truth gets in the way of peoples political agenda. I got banned from twitter for comparing the LGBT community to Nazi. They have the flag and the parades and don't like free speech, what is the difference? first one has to know the difference between truth and opinion ... and there's even more to it than that because your "truth" may be someone else's opinion. :)
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Post by mouse on Mar 3, 2019 4:11:19 GMT -5
ah but real truths are absolutes with no wriggle room ie the sea is wet there are mountains in the urals….a Queen said....let them eat cake... first two are absolutes the 2nd is only questionable as to which Queen actually spoke the words
right now the UK is in information via truth,opinion fiction and lies overload
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Post by kronks on Mar 5, 2019 4:18:35 GMT -5
When you lose free speech you can kiss goodbye to all your freedoms, we are pretty much there. The truth gets in the way of peoples political agenda. I got banned from twitter for comparing the LGBT community to Nazi. They have the flag and the parades and don't like free speech, what is the difference? first one has to know the difference between truth and opinion I do. They have the flag and the parades and don't like free speech, what is the difference?
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Post by kronks on Mar 5, 2019 4:21:49 GMT -5
ah but real truths are absolutes with no wriggle room ie the sea is wet there are mountains in the urals….a Queen said....let them eat cake... first two are absolutes the 2nd is only questionable as to which Queen actually spoke the words right now the UK is in information via truth,opinion fiction and lies overload
There is only truth in maths not in politics.
The mass media is there to brainwash people.
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2019 4:31:03 GMT -5
first one has to know the difference between truth and opinion I do. They have the flag and the parades and don't like free speech, what is the difference? if you do not know the difference that is your problem... but this constant childishness of crying Nazi all the time is very tedious and very over egging there is much more to Nazism than flags and parades and being against any one having the freedom to question … stop comparing syrup and treakle
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Post by mouse on Mar 5, 2019 4:37:51 GMT -5
ah but real truths are absolutes with no wriggle room ie the sea is wet there are mountains in the urals….a Queen said....let them eat cake... first two are absolutes the 2nd is only questionable as to which Queen actually spoke the words right now the UK is in information via truth,opinion fiction and lies overload There is only truth in maths not in politics. The mass media is there to brainwash people.
no no no… truth exists outside of maths ….it is true we are born... it is also true that we die it is true that women produce babies and that that men do not it is also true that breeding can be available via test tubes it is true that humans need to breathe and with out breathing they will die the world is full of truths the art lies in being able to tell truth from fiction and lies and of using the tools available to determin truth from fiction take hypothermia...getting so cold that people suffering extereem cold can and have torn off their clothes because they feel too hot and thus hasten death.... or the cold can make them so sleepy they just drift away
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Post by kronks on Mar 6, 2019 23:36:48 GMT -5
I do. They have the flag and the parades and don't like free speech, what is the difference? if you do not know the difference that is your problem... but this constant childishness of crying Nazi all the time is very tedious and very over egging there is much more to Nazism than flags and parades and being against any one having the freedom to question … stop comparing syrup and treakle It is the same thing, they certainly are not keen on free speech and even want to dictate what pronouns you uses.
Hitler did not start out how he ended up, the first thing he did was to censor media.
The demand inclusivity but single themselves out as different.
And demand special privilidges etc,...
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Post by kronks on Mar 6, 2019 23:40:43 GMT -5
There is only truth in maths not in politics. The mass media is there to brainwash people.
no no no… truth exists outside of maths ….it is true we are born... it is also true that we die it is true that women produce babies and that that men do not it is also true that breeding can be available via test tubes it is true that humans need to breathe and with out breathing they will die the world is full of truths the art lies in being able to tell truth from fiction and lies and of using the tools available to determin truth from fiction take hypothermia...getting so cold that people suffering extereem cold can and have torn off their clothes because they feel too hot and thus hasten death.... or the cold can make them so sleepy they just drift away
THat is just speculation but we can prove 7 x A =54 when A=8
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Post by mouse on Mar 7, 2019 3:23:31 GMT -5
if you do not know the difference that is your problem... but this constant childishness of crying Nazi all the time is very tedious and very over egging there is much more to Nazism than flags and parades and being against any one having the freedom to question … stop comparing syrup and treakle It is the same thing, they certainly are not keen on free speech and even want to dictate what pronouns you uses. Hitler did not start out how he ended up, the first thing he did was to censor media. The demand inclusivity but single themselves out as different. And demand special privilidges etc,...
not being keen on freedom of speech and the other things you mention do not equal being Nazis,,, because those things you mentioned can be seen in many organisations...including the RChurch… so consider the words you write as for Hitler he ended up being exactly as he wanted to be.... Mien Kamf and the transcrips of his speeches are quite explicit in intentions the only bit not intened was him deep in a bunker suffering defeat.... having a soldier shoot him and then attempting to burn his corpse as the Russians advanced ..one of his last comands was sending boys as young as 15 to fight against battle hardened Russians
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