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Post by Jessiealan on Mar 2, 2018 22:37:13 GMT -5
Most of the time they happen after the lawsuit gets public exposure. If the accused confesses to a part of the accusation that's less damaging and pays a cash settlement, they might be spared a worse outcome. With Bill O'Reilly, his employer picked up the tab and he didn't suffer much at all. Many men who have earned their place in a seat of power are blessed with self confidence and handle it well. Some, often those who have cheated or lied their way into a powerful position, know they are not worthy and try to manipulate the opinions of others in nefarious ways. Donald Trump may be one of the latter. |
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Post by Sysop3 on Mar 3, 2018 22:38:26 GMT -5
Sex to boost film career is ‘not rape’: Weinstein lawyer New York police say they are investigating a 2004 sexual assault complaint against Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, seen here at the Cannes Film Festival in May. (AFP/File / LOIC VENANCE) Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer said Saturday a woman having sex with a Hollywood producer to advance her career is “not rape”, in a British newspaper interview on the eve of the Oscars. Ben Brafman is one of the US’ top criminal defence attorneys, hired by the disgraced Hollywood mogul whose career is in tatters following accusations of sexual harassment, assault and rape. More than 100 women have accused Weinstein of impropriety going back 40 years, but Brafman argued there was no criminal behaviour. “If a woman decides that she needs to have sex with a Hollywood producer to advance her career and actually does it and finds the whole thing offensive, that’s not rape,” he told The Times. “You made a conscious decision that you’re willing to do something that is personally offensive in order to advance your career,” he added. Weinstein, a twice-married father of five, is being investigated by British and US police, but has not been charged with any crime. He denies having non-consensual sex and is reportedly in treatment for sex addiction. Dozens of Hollywood women, including Ashley Judd, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kate Beckinsale and Salma Hayek, are among Weinstein’s accusers. The bombshell exposes last year have led the film industry to declare war on sexual misconduct, with the campaign dominating the 2018 awards circuit. Brafman told The Times his client’s behaviour was reflective of the broader culture in the industry: “The casting couch in Hollywood was not invented by Harvey Weinstein.” While Weinstein will not be welcome at Sunday’s Oscars ceremony, his infamous casting couch has been created by artists to mark the occasion. Plastic Jesus and Joshua Monroe created a gold sculpture of Weinstein on the couch, wearing a dressing gown and clutching an Academy Award. Agence France-Presse, by way of Raw Story
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Post by kronks on Mar 3, 2018 23:34:01 GMT -5
I have a problem with this. It seems they are trying to say men can't help harassing and seeing women kas, somehnow, "less"? Maybe they need to try harder! I think you're right to have a problem with this article. She bases it on psychology, a pseudo-science if ever there was one. On further investigation I found that the author was pretty much what I expected: Lynn Parramore is an author and cultural theorist. That really tells me all I need to know. Cultural theory includes deconstruction, feminism, hermeneutics (a fancy name for interpretation), holism, postmodernism, semiotics (interpretation of signs and symbols) and sociobiology! In short, an activist with titles like Homo Obnoxious: Is Toxic Masculinity Really Taking Over the Country? In that I learned about a place called the, er, manosphere... Unfortunately, much in the manosphere openly promotes the far more noxious stuff, like sexual predation in the pickup community, where guys give each other creepy tips on “mind-controlling” women and duping them into sex. The pickup community? She's a loony. Most women I know who have worked with offices full of women, tell me how absolutely awful it is. Bitching and sniping and nothing like the sweetness and light claimed by the cultural marxists. What does you experience tell you? Nan Mooney has a book out called I Can't Believe She Did That: Why Women Betray Other Women at Work That contradicts the theory straight away. "Fantasies about the workplace as a happy bastion of sisterhood are useless. Even worse, they are a lie.People like Parramore, come up with nonsense like this: Some Results of Feminist Collaboration in the Visual Arts:
Changes in Art History and Art Criticism
Women leaders in the field of art education, particularly higher education, are often characterized as having a social consciousness (Stankiewicz & Zimmerman, 1985). Since many of these women began as artists (a career that requires focus on oneself) and moved into education (a career that focuses on others) it is easy to see how collaboration was a major trait that successful women in this field possessed. scholarscompass.vcu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1205&context=jstaeOr to put that another way, since many of these women began as artists (a career that typically does not pay well, if at all) and moved into education (a career with a regular salary) it is easy to see how collaboration was a major trait that successful women in this field possessed. Rare sense from Frett. Banged your head! |
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Post by kronks on Mar 3, 2018 23:41:32 GMT -5
I don't think this is a bad article, though a little redundant. People in general seem to react in off kilter ways to power in the public arena. We have an excellent example in the open faced governance of Donald Trump. Do you think he'd have belched out that "grab em by the p*ssy" remark if he had not been emboldened by power? When the standard 15 minutes of fame stretches into years, people tend to present themselves with a gold crown and shield ... also known as omnipotence. Trump's big problem is an ongoing lack of confidence ... which is why he needs to constantly keep telling everyone how great he is. Weinstein, OTOH, had risen to a level of success that ensured respect ... except, possibly, his success with women. So .. he tried and tried again. Here's a good story. www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/young-harvey-weinstein-making-a-monster-1089069Of course the other side of the coin is women chase powerful men and "sell themselves" to get roles no doubt so they of course let him get away with it. It is part of the rotten Hollywood culture. No doubt we will have more of this nonsense at the Oscars, and evening of man bashing and terrible films. Hollywood created him. |
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Post by fretslider on Mar 4, 2018 5:01:45 GMT -5
I think you're right to have a problem with this article. She bases it on psychology, a pseudo-science if ever there was one. On further investigation I found that the author was pretty much what I expected: Lynn Parramore is an author and cultural theorist. That really tells me all I need to know. Cultural theory includes deconstruction, feminism, hermeneutics (a fancy name for interpretation), holism, postmodernism, semiotics (interpretation of signs and symbols) and sociobiology! In short, an activist with titles like Homo Obnoxious: Is Toxic Masculinity Really Taking Over the Country? In that I learned about a place called the, er, manosphere... Unfortunately, much in the manosphere openly promotes the far more noxious stuff, like sexual predation in the pickup community, where guys give each other creepy tips on “mind-controlling” women and duping them into sex. The pickup community? She's a loony. Most women I know who have worked with offices full of women, tell me how absolutely awful it is. Bitching and sniping and nothing like the sweetness and light claimed by the cultural marxists. What does you experience tell you? Nan Mooney has a book out called I Can't Believe She Did That: Why Women Betray Other Women at Work That contradicts the theory straight away. "Fantasies about the workplace as a happy bastion of sisterhood are useless. Even worse, they are a lie.People like Parramore, come up with nonsense like this: Some Results of Feminist Collaboration in the Visual Arts:
Changes in Art History and Art Criticism
Women leaders in the field of art education, particularly higher education, are often characterized as having a social consciousness (Stankiewicz & Zimmerman, 1985). Since many of these women began as artists (a career that requires focus on oneself) and moved into education (a career that focuses on others) it is easy to see how collaboration was a major trait that successful women in this field possessed. scholarscompass.vcu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1205&context=jstaeOr to put that another way, since many of these women began as artists (a career that typically does not pay well, if at all) and moved into education (a career with a regular salary) it is easy to see how collaboration was a major trait that successful women in this field possessed. Rare sense from Frett. Banged your head! You mean on this occasion your weird values are almost normal. |
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Post by fretslider on Mar 4, 2018 5:56:59 GMT -5
Sex to boost film career is ‘not rape’: Weinstein lawyerNew York police say they are investigating a 2004 sexual assault complaint against Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, seen here at the Cannes Film Festival in May. (AFP/File / LOIC VENANCE) Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer said Saturday a woman having sex with a Hollywood producer to advance her career is “not rape”, in a British newspaper interview on the eve of the Oscars. Ben Brafman is one of the US’ top criminal defence attorneys, hired by the disgraced Hollywood mogul whose career is in tatters following accusations of sexual harassment, assault and rape. More than 100 women have accused Weinstein of impropriety going back 40 years, but Brafman argued there was no criminal behaviour. “If a woman decides that she needs to have sex with a Hollywood producer to advance her career and actually does it and finds the whole thing offensive, that’s not rape,” he told The Times. “You made a conscious decision that you’re willing to do something that is personally offensive in order to advance your career,” he added. Weinstein, a twice-married father of five, is being investigated by British and US police, but has not been charged with any crime. He denies having non-consensual sex and is reportedly in treatment for sex addiction. Dozens of Hollywood women, including Ashley Judd, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kate Beckinsale and Salma Hayek, are among Weinstein’s accusers. The bombshell exposes last year have led the film industry to declare war on sexual misconduct, with the campaign dominating the 2018 awards circuit. Brafman told The Times his client’s behaviour was reflective of the broader culture in the industry: “The casting couch in Hollywood was not invented by Harvey Weinstein.” While Weinstein will not be welcome at Sunday’s Oscars ceremony, his infamous casting couch has been created by artists to mark the occasion. Plastic Jesus and Joshua Monroe created a gold sculpture of Weinstein on the couch, wearing a dressing gown and clutching an Academy Award. Agence France-Presse, by way of Raw Story Formerly known as the casting couch. I knew a girl years ago who is best approximated in Bowfinger, the film with Steve Martin and Eddie Murphy The character of Daisy, newly arrived, anxious to get a foot in the acting door, decided to improve her chances of success by having sex with members of the production team as needed. First the cameraman, then the scriptwriter, and onwards to the top - Bowfinger. There are no statistics on this at all. But some are prepared to do whatever it takes. 20 years on, who knows. They may see another opportunity. |
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Post by Dex on Mar 4, 2018 10:01:32 GMT -5
Sex to boost film careerFormerly known as the casting couch. I knew a girl years ago who is best approximated in Bowfinger, the film with Steve Martin and Eddie Murphy The character of Daisy, newly arrived, anxious to get a foot in the acting door, decided to improve her chances of success by having sex with members of the production team as needed. First the cameraman, then the scriptwriter, and onwards to the top - Bowfinger. There are no statistics on this at all. But some are prepared to do whatever it takes. 20 years on, who knows. They may see another opportunity. So it's a long time tradition and that makes it okay? |
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Post by kronks on Mar 5, 2018 1:35:35 GMT -5
Many women use their sexuality to boost their careers.
That is why few spoke out at the time.
It is always long after the event when they have made their fortune and their own sexuality is
worthless.
The youbg aspiring stars, they are not complaining are they?
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Post by fretslider on Mar 5, 2018 5:04:17 GMT -5
Sex to boost film careerFormerly known as the casting couch. I knew a girl years ago who is best approximated in Bowfinger, the film with Steve Martin and Eddie Murphy The character of Daisy, newly arrived, anxious to get a foot in the acting door, decided to improve her chances of success by having sex with members of the production team as needed. First the cameraman, then the scriptwriter, and onwards to the top - Bowfinger. There are no statistics on this at all. But some are prepared to do whatever it takes. 20 years on, who knows. They may see another opportunity. So it's a long time tradition and that makes it okay? Why do they do it? To get ahead. If they're doing it freely, it must, on some level, be ok as far as they're concerned. They're getting something out of it. My opinion on the matter is this: Yes, it is as old as hills. Just because in these modern times we have decided that it's not ok, there was a time when it was ok. Anachronistic judgement is flawed at best. Do you have a proposal that would stop those who choose to indulge in this method of securing a job? |
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Post by beth on Mar 5, 2018 12:04:02 GMT -5
So it's a long time tradition and that makes it okay? Why do they do it? To get ahead. If they're doing it freely, it must, on some level, be ok as far as they're concerned. They're getting something out of it. My opinion on the matter is this: Yes, it is as old as hills. Just because in these modern times we have decided that it's not ok, there was a time when it was ok. Anachronistic judgement is flawed at best. Do you have a proposal that would stop those who choose to indulge in this method of securing a job? If they make the choice to do it willingly, they have very shaky ground for going back on their decision and filing law suits. If they were forced against their will, it was rape and an entirely different situation. Could be either but not both. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 5, 2018 14:47:33 GMT -5
If they make the choice to do it willingly, they have very shaky ground for going back on their decision and filing law suits. If they were forced against their will, it was rape and an entirely different situation. Could be either but not both. The definition of "forced" is debatable. In any case, the legal presumption is that an accuser is lying. |
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Post by Dex on Mar 5, 2018 20:25:59 GMT -5
If they make the choice to do it willingly, they have very shaky ground for going back on their decision and filing law suits. If they were forced against their will, it was rape and an entirely different situation. Could be either but not both. The definition of "forced" is debatable. In any case, the legal presumption is that an accuser is lying. ] Whose presumption? The lawyers? The judges? Who? |
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Post by fretslider on Mar 6, 2018 5:02:27 GMT -5
Why do they do it? To get ahead. If they're doing it freely, it must, on some level, be ok as far as they're concerned. They're getting something out of it. My opinion on the matter is this: Yes, it is as old as hills. Just because in these modern times we have decided that it's not ok, there was a time when it was ok. Anachronistic judgement is flawed at best. Do you have a proposal that would stop those who choose to indulge in this method of securing a job? If they make the choice to do it willingly, they have very shaky ground for going back on their decision and filing law suits. If they were forced against their will, it was rape and an entirely different situation. Could be either but not both. Take the case of Rose McGowan.... ...she tries to smear Mr. Weinstein with a bold lie that is denied not only by Mr. Weinstein himself, but by at least two witnesses,” Brafman writes, “including Ms. McGowan’s own Manager at the time who Ms. McGowan claims to have confided in the day after the alleged assault and an A-list actor Ben Affleck who Ms. McGowan claims to have also told about her encounter with Mr. Weinstein shortly after the incident she now describes as ‘rape,’ but which in 1997 she described to her Manager as a ‘consensual’ act of sex.”
He quotes Messick’s e-mail, which said: “When we met up the following day [after the alleged incident], she hesitantly told me of her own accord that during the meeting that night before she had gotten into a hot tub with Mr. Weinstein. She was very clear about the fact that getting into that hot tub was something that she did consensually and that in hindsight it was also something that she regretted having done.”www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/01/harvey-weinstein-lawyer-rose-mcgowanLike I said, beth, some are prepared to do whatever it takes. 20 years on, who knows. They may see another opportunity. |
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Post by mouse on Mar 6, 2018 5:34:24 GMT -5
Many women use their sexuality to boost their careers. That is why few spoke out at the time. It is always long after the event when they have made their fortune and their own sexuality is worthless. The youbg aspiring stars, they are not complaining are they? so you alleging that no woman ever gets harassed of sexually assaulted.. touched up or verbally sexually assaulted .no man ever unzipped his pants or groped or made lewed sugestions next you will be telling us women only get what they have asked for.. that its all the womans fault that men attack sexually every where from places of work.. schools... theatres even just standing at a bus stop.. that no man has ever foisted himself on a woman who was unwilling .....mmmmm |
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Post by beth on Mar 6, 2018 10:02:35 GMT -5
Like I said, beth, some are prepared to do whatever it takes. 20 years on, who knows. They may see another opportunity.As in "once an opportunist, always an opportunist"? I'll give it some thought. |
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