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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 4, 2018 5:25:31 GMT -5
Use your brains: everything that happened was always God"s fault, we know better. It WAS a natural disaster, just like the earthquakes that are happening all over the world at the present time. Dont forget that I witnessed the planet Earth rocking back and forth from the result of a massive earthquake. What more could you ask for. It seems that you are exactly like the people in Noah's time. They didn't heed the warning until it was too late. The Ark was full of animals by that time. What a shame!!! hang on... you want it all ways you quote the bible and say we are told not to be judgemental ie point fingers and then deny other bits such as Soddam which science has demolished as natural happenings then to add to the confusion you say your getting steered though by the holy spirit.. and top it off by witnessing the earth rocking that's a lot of contradictions Every word is true. Even today there are people who blame God for what happens to them, when most of us know that it is a natural disaster,we live and learn I did find myself in space looking at the planet Earth rocking back and forth. Whether you see it as a dream is of no consequence, this experience was given to me for a reason. I believe it is going to happen in the not too distant future. Other things that I have been given, HAVE come to pass. Do you think that I am thrilled by that? It certainly isn't something that a person wants to happen.
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Post by fretslider on Jan 4, 2018 6:52:06 GMT -5
It's always amusing when someone with no brain exhorts me to use my brain. So you agree, these were natural events. That's because there is no such thing as a god. I think its all a bit of a movable feast Fret what ever applys at the time ... as for the animals in the ark.. there were only two of a kind... all the rest were drowned for no reason.. bit cruel ...innit when they had committeed no sin And yet we are still discovering new species - and none of them would never have been known in the ancient middle-east. Yahweh is a rather primitive and brutal god. I wonder what sick mind invented him?
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Post by mouse on Jan 4, 2018 7:18:51 GMT -5
of course we are discovering new species ...i mean did king tut have kangaroos and koalas
always look on the bright side of life de da de da
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Post by mouse on Jan 4, 2018 7:22:13 GMT -5
hang on... you want it all ways you quote the bible and say we are told not to be judgemental ie point fingers and then deny other bits such as Soddam which science has demolished as natural happenings then to add to the confusion you say your getting steered though by the holy spirit.. and top it off by witnessing the earth rocking that's a lot of contradictions Every word is true. Even today there are people who blame God for what happens to them, when most of us know that it is a natural disaster,we live and learn I did find myself in space looking at the planet Earth rocking back and forth. Whether you see it as a dream is of no consequence, this experience was given to me for a reason. I believe it is going to happen in the not too distant future. Other things that I have been given, HAVE come to pass. Do you think that I am thrilled by that? It certainly isn't something that a person wants to happen. if every word in the bible is true why are you saying soddam was a natural disastwer make your mind up either its all true or its not ...
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 4, 2018 22:47:23 GMT -5
Every word is true. Even today there are people who blame God for what happens to them, when most of us know that it is a natural disaster,we live and learn I did find myself in space looking at the planet Earth rocking back and forth. Whether you see it as a dream is of no consequence, this experience was given to me for a reason. I believe it is going to happen in the not too distant future. Other things that I have been given, HAVE come to pass. Do you think that I am thrilled by that? It certainly isn't something that a person wants to happen. if every word in the bible is true why are you saying soddam was a natural disastwer make your mind up either its all true or its not ... By Golly.!!! You do exasperate me at times. The people then, always blamed God for everything due to ignorance. We know better as we are more enlightened.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2018 0:04:05 GMT -5
of course we are discovering new species ...i mean did king tut have kangaroos and koalas always look on the bright side of life de da de da Your guess is as good as mine.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2018 0:20:18 GMT -5
I think its all a bit of a movable feast Fret what ever applys at the time ... as for the animals in the ark.. there were only two of a kind... all the rest were drowned for no reason.. bit cruel ...innit when they had committeed no sin And yet we are still discovering new species - and none of them would never have been known in the ancient middle-east. Yahweh is a rather primitive and brutal god. I wonder what sick mind invented him? Who said that they were drowned? In case you are not aware, God handed the world over to mankind to do what they thought was right, that is why they were given free choice. God will not interfere until the end and then we will be judged.PS: there were two of a kind of every animal created so none were drowned as far as I know.
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Post by mouse on Jan 5, 2018 5:28:18 GMT -5
And yet we are still discovering new species - and none of them would never have been known in the ancient middle-east. Yahweh is a rather primitive and brutal god. I wonder what sick mind invented him? Who said that they were drowned? In case you are not aware, God handed the world over to mankind to do what they thought was right, that is why they were given free choice. God will not interfere until the end and then we will be judged.PS: there were two of a kind of every animal created so none were drowned as far as I know. of course the majority were drowned..
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2018 6:12:03 GMT -5
Who said that they were drowned? In case you are not aware, God handed the world over to mankind to do what they thought was right, that is why they were given free choice. God will not interfere until the end and then we will be judged.PS: there were two of a kind of every animal created so none were drowned as far as I know. of course the majority were drowned.. Where is your proof?
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Post by mouse on Jan 5, 2018 7:39:11 GMT -5
of course the majority were drowned.. Where is your proof? basic biology... if only two are saved of any species from the waters..... it means the rest of the population of that species drowned ..... if only two camels/donkeys etc two saved means the rest drowned
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Post by fretslider on Jan 5, 2018 10:00:15 GMT -5
And yet we are still discovering new species - and none of them would never have been known in the ancient middle-east. Yahweh is a rather primitive and brutal god. I wonder what sick mind invented him? Who said that they were drowned? In case you are not aware, God handed the world over to mankind to do what they thought was right, that is why they were given free choice. God will not interfere until the end and then we will be judged.PS: there were two of a kind of every animal created so none were drowned as far as I know. If there was great flood then animals drowned. Noah was to take seven of every clean animal—“a male and his female”—two of every animal that is unclean, and seven of each bird, male and female “according to their kinds . . . to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth.” Noah had no idea of what an Emu was. He certainly never saw a Marsupial. So how could he save them? There weren't any microbiologists around in 7000 BC either. Noah is just a story, a fable that can't be taken seriously.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2018 16:32:11 GMT -5
Who said that they were drowned? In case you are not aware, God handed the world over to mankind to do what they thought was right, that is why they were given free choice. God will not interfere until the end and then we will be judged.PS: there were two of a kind of every animal created so none were drowned as far as I know. If there was great flood then animals drowned. Noah was to take seven of every clean animal—“a male and his female”—two of every animal that is unclean, and seven of each bird, male and female “according to their kinds . . . to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth.” Noah had no idea of what an Emu was. He certainly never saw a Marsupial. So how could he save them? There weren't any microbiologists around in 7000 BC either. Noah is just a story, a fable that can't be taken seriously. Once again it all boils down to interpretation. Maybe it just flooded in Noah's part of the World, they knew nothing else surely? Anyway the animals were seven pairs of EVERY clean animal and two pairs of EVERY unclean animals. How would you know what animals existed in Noah's time?
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Post by men an tol on Jan 5, 2018 21:34:22 GMT -5
If there was great flood then animals drowned. Noah was to take seven of every clean animal—“a male and his female”—two of every animal that is unclean, and seven of each bird, male and female “according to their kinds . . . to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth.” Noah had no idea of what an Emu was. He certainly never saw a Marsupial. So how could he save them? There weren't any microbiologists around in 7000 BC either. Noah is just a story, a fable that can't be taken seriously. Once again it all boils down to interpretation. Maybe it just flooded in Noah's part of the World, they knew nothing else surely? Anyway the animals were seven pairs of EVERY clean animal and two pairs of EVERY unclean animals. How would you know what animals existed in Noah's time? I suspect that you folks are missing the primary points. You can argue for ever what it says in the bible and you will never get to the truth. My past studies were some time ago, however, it is known (from various scientific studies) that at least one major flood occurred in the Mediterranean basin. The shore line changed, and the water depth changed. This may have happened more than once. The story of Noah is a nice tale and it is likely that there may have been a boat, maybe more than one. There is also evidence that such disasters happened in other parts of the world. There is no certainty as to what cause these events (no it wasn’t a God) but it could have been caused by a large asteroid passing close to the earth and moving large amounts of water. The answers are in the scientific world, not in some mystical belief.
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Post by men an tol on Jan 5, 2018 22:26:50 GMT -5
If there was great flood then animals drowned. Noah was to take seven of every clean animal—“a male and his female”—two of every animal that is unclean, and seven of each bird, male and female “according to their kinds . . . to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth.” Noah had no idea of what an Emu was. He certainly never saw a Marsupial. So how could he save them? There weren't any microbiologists around in 7000 BC either. Noah is just a story, a fable that can't be taken seriously. Once again it all boils down to interpretation. Maybe it just flooded in Noah's part of the World, they knew nothing else surely? Anyway the animals were seven pairs of EVERY clean animal and two pairs of EVERY unclean animals. How would you know what animals existed in Noah's time? The fossils of each time has been, and are being, found and recorded. The animals that lived within communities of humans are known. What animals (and plants) from the supposed time of Noah are primarily known. The animals in the Mediterranean basin all died in the flood as did any humans and communities. The flood(s) that occurred there didn’t cover all of the land but merely extended the shores to high elevations. This is all recorded in the geological evidence. There is no need to ‘interpret’ from a book of mystical stories. Nor to make up the idea of multiple past lives.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2018 22:45:35 GMT -5
Once again it all boils down to interpretation. Maybe it just flooded in Noah's part of the World, they knew nothing else surely? Anyway the animals were seven pairs of EVERY clean animal and two pairs of EVERY unclean animals. How would you know what animals existed in Noah's time? I suspect that you folks are missing the primary points. You can argue for ever what it says in the bible and you will never get to the truth. My past studies were some time ago, however, it is known (from various scientific studies) that at least one major flood occurred in the Mediterranean basin. The shore line changed, and the water depth changed. This may have happened more than once. The story of Noah is a nice tale and it is likely that there may have been a boat, maybe more than one. There is also evidence that such disasters happened in other parts of the world. There is no certainty as to what cause these events (no it wasn’t a God) but it could have been caused by a large asteroid passing close to the earth and moving large amounts of water. The answers are in the scientific world, not in some mystical belief. I am not disputing what you have found to be true via your studies, except that my understanding of events is somewhat different. It does say in the Bible that it hadn't yet rained. Finally enough moisture had risen into the sky to produce enough heavy clouds to produce the rain that caused the flood, perhaps only in that area. I certainly don't know, and maybe the people in Noah's time were also unaware.
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