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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 2, 2017 11:14:15 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, I have mentioned before that the Karma that we have already accrued stays with us until it is resolved . God gives us freedom of choice, which means that we can still make a decision in each lifetime. Reincarnation is completely inconsistent with freedom of choice. By definition reincarnation is deterministic and therefore there IS no choice. Hi LadyLinda, The vocabulary that you use is so descriptive even though not in the least bit true of my character. We DO have freedom to choose otherwise we would not evolve as human beings or be able to resolve accrued Karma which is very important. Karma which is what is deterministic, stays with you until you have learned your lesson. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 2, 2017 11:24:59 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, Passing the Buck again? And not only that, but rubbing it in that ECKANKAR is a cult when in reality, it is a bona fide religion. The religion of the Light and Sound of God ( Holy Spirit ) whom we follow.!!! sorry but eckankar is a cult and it goes against the teachings of Christ.. and in going against the teachings of Christ it follows that the followers of eck should not be calling them selves Christians nor should they be highjacking partsd of the trinity .. there is absolutely no need for a plagerised cult which passes its self off as a religion [but be honest any one can found a cult and pass it off as a religion] from John.KJV. and Jesus said i am the way the truth and the life John 8:12 KJV: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life Jesus is quiet clear on the whats/hows and whys Hi Mouse, He also said: that the way you speak to or treat another, is how you speak to and treat Him. Where is your respect. I have more respect for Jesus. |
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 2, 2017 17:23:53 GMT -5
sorry but eckankar is a cult and it goes against the teachings of Christ.. and in going against the teachings of Christ it follows that the followers of eck should not be calling them selves Christians nor should they be highjacking partsd of the trinity .. there is absolutely no need for a plagerised cult which passes its self off as a religion [but be honest any one can found a cult and pass it off as a religion] from John.KJV. and Jesus said i am the way the truth and the life John 8:12 KJV: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life Jesus is quiet clear on the whats/hows and whys Hi Mouse, He also said: that the way you speak to or treat another, is how you speak to and treat Him. Where is your respect. I have more respect for Jesus. But seemingly NOT for anyone who disagrees with you. As Our Lord said, 'if he does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has NOT seen?' |
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 2, 2017 17:25:45 GMT -5
Reincarnation is completely inconsistent with freedom of choice. By definition reincarnation is deterministic and therefore there IS no choice. Hi LadyLinda, The vocabulary that you use is so descriptive even though not in the least bit true of my character. We DO have freedom to choose otherwise we would not evolve as human beings or be able to resolve accrued Karma which is very important. Karma which is what is deterministic, stays with you until you have learned your lesson. By definition anything that's determined is something beyond your control. So, on your own principles, you DON'T have freedom of choice and you CAN'T 'learn your lesson.' Not sure what you mean by my vocabulary being 'descriptive;' I'm a poet and writer so I know how to use words. More importantly, I value their meaning and their truth-content. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 2, 2017 20:11:32 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, He also said: that the way you speak to or treat another, is how you speak to and treat Him. Where is your respect. I have more respect for Jesus. But seemingly NOT for anyone who disagrees with you. As Our Lord said, 'if he does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has NOT seen?' Hi LadyLinda, I have seen the face of God quite a few times believe it or not. But I don't text the words that you are so fond of.You can be quite vulgar when you feel like it. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 2, 2017 20:19:48 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, The vocabulary that you use is so descriptive even though not in the least bit true of my character. We DO have freedom to choose otherwise we would not evolve as human beings or be able to resolve accrued Karma which is very important. Karma which is what is deterministic, stays with you until you have learned your lesson. By definition anything that's determined is something beyond your control. So, on your own principles, you DON'T have freedom of choice and you CAN'T 'learn your lesson.' Not sure what you mean by my vocabulary being 'descriptive;' I'm a poet and writer so I know how to use words. More importantly, I value their meaning and their truth-content. Hi LadyLinda, You may be a poet, but you don't seem to be a happy one if your poetry is an indication of your frame of mind. |
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Post by mouse on Oct 3, 2017 3:28:54 GMT -5
actually I disagree with you...it is of considerable importance... as laughter is a basic human response... and you are peddling misinformation as true and even arguing about it...yet another unfounded allegation/assertion in an ever expanding line SL did you read the link about the Vatican ?its very informative .. Hi Mouse, I usually don't have much luck with links, so I rarely investigate further. pity because its a really good link imo so how would you argue a case about the Vatican ?and know what happened in what era ? |
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Post by mouse on Oct 3, 2017 3:44:40 GMT -5
sorry but eckankar is a cult and it goes against the teachings of Christ.. and in going against the teachings of Christ it follows that the followers of eck should not be calling them selves Christians nor should they be highjacking partsd of the trinity .. there is absolutely no need for a plagerised cult which passes its self off as a religion [but be honest any one can found a cult and pass it off as a religion] from John.KJV. and Jesus said i am the way the truth and the life John 8:12 KJV: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life Jesus is quiet clear on the whats/hows and whys Hi Mouse, He also said: that the way you speak to or treat another, is how you speak to and treat Him. Where is your respect. I have more respect for Jesus. where exactly do I need to respect-what have I to respect ? I stand by every thing I posted 100%.. there is absolutely no need for a group which calls its self light and sound or what ever...its as much a con as Scientology set up by writers of science fiction and by the sounds of it much better paying than writing books too as Jesus has already covered every thing a believer needs with statements which a simple and very clear to any honest believer from John.KJV. and Jesus said i am the way the truth and the life John 8:12 KJV: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life and yes the forum message board is a place for exchanging views.. it is not a place for posting misinformation wrapped up as truth though and naturally people are going to call you on allegations which have no proof .. all that is needed is to rephrase and re think how you present some thing you read or heard and not assert that its true and then get huffy when asked to prove your point |
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Post by mouse on Oct 3, 2017 4:06:28 GMT -5
Reincarnation is completely inconsistent with freedom of choice. By definition reincarnation is deterministic and therefore there IS no choice. Hi LadyLinda, The vocabulary that you use is so descriptive even though not in the least bit true of my character. We DO have freedom to choose otherwise we would not evolve as human beings or be able to resolve accrued Karma which is very important. Karma which is what is deterministic, stays with you until you have learned your lesson. as the actual meaning of the word Karma is luck how do you fit luck into your beliefes ? sl wrote"""Karma that we have already accrued stays with us until it is resolved"" |
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Post by fretslider on Oct 3, 2017 7:29:13 GMT -5
But seemingly NOT for anyone who disagrees with you. As Our Lord said, 'if he does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has NOT seen?' Hi LadyLinda, I have seen the face of God quite a few times believe it or not. But I don't text the words that you are so fond of.You can be quite vulgar when you feel like it. To quote Victor Meldrew: I don't believe it. |
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Post by mouse on Oct 3, 2017 8:15:07 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, I have seen the face of God quite a few times believe it or not. But I don't text the words that you are so fond of.You can be quite vulgar when you feel like it. To quote Victor Meldrew: I don't believe it. how would any one know what the face of God looks like .. I know the concept offered up by western painters eg Leonardo/Carravagio/Michelangelo etc etc ..who put their own interpretations of what Jesus/John/Mary/Rebbeca etc looked like [the reality being that those people would look nothing like the portraits of them....as those people were in fact Jewish people of a certain type in that particular era semites] but what does the face of God look like given he made humans in his image what were his basic characteristics .. Asian..African.Caucasion and then add the differences of various ethenticities |
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Post by Dex on Oct 3, 2017 13:29:52 GMT -5
and yes the forum message board is a place for exchanging views.. it is not a place for posting misinformation wrapped up as truth though and naturally people are going to call you on allegations which have no proof .. all that is needed is to rephrase and re think how you present some thing you read or heard and not assert that its true and then get huffy when asked to prove your point Different ways of looking at things is what makes message boards interesting. |
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 3, 2017 14:23:56 GMT -5
By definition anything that's determined is something beyond your control. So, on your own principles, you DON'T have freedom of choice and you CAN'T 'learn your lesson.' Not sure what you mean by my vocabulary being 'descriptive;' I'm a poet and writer so I know how to use words. More importantly, I value their meaning and their truth-content. Hi LadyLinda, You may be a poet, but you don't seem to be a happy one if your poetry is an indication of your frame of mind. As Croesus said to Cyrus, 'call no man happy until he is dead.' As for 'my frame of mind,' you have NO idea how many problems I have had to deal with for the last few years. Frankly I'm amazed I'm still remotely sane! As for poetry, what do YOU know about it? Is the Iliad happy? Paradise Lost? The Idylls of the King? Sordello? The Divine Comedy? Hamlet? Othello? To take a few names at random. Poetry represents ALL human emotions; laughter, pain, sadness, joy, love of nature, fear, anger, outrage and so on. It's a mirror of life. You might like to live in a smug pretty-pretty chocolate-box world and pretend that YOU - being so ENLIGHTENED - are not touched by life's misery. But that's only because of your indifference to the welfare of others. |
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 3, 2017 14:25:37 GMT -5
But seemingly NOT for anyone who disagrees with you. As Our Lord said, 'if he does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has NOT seen?' Hi LadyLinda, I have seen the face of God quite a few times believe it or not. But I don't text the words that you are so fond of.You can be quite vulgar when you feel like it. Well, it says in the Bible that NO ONE - not even YOU - can look on the face of God and live. So presumably you're posting from beyond the grave? |
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Post by fretslider on Oct 3, 2017 14:58:13 GMT -5
Hi LadyLinda, You may be a poet, but you don't seem to be a happy one if your poetry is an indication of your frame of mind. As Croesus said to Cyrus, 'call no man happy until he is dead.' As for 'my frame of mind,' you have NO idea how many problems I have had to deal with for the last few years. Frankly I'm amazed I'm still remotely sane! As for poetry, what do YOU know about it? Is the Iliad happy? Paradise Lost? The Idylls of the King? Sordello? The Divine Comedy? Hamlet? Othello? To take a few names at random. Poetry represents ALL human emotions; laughter, pain, sadness, joy, love of nature, fear, anger, outrage and so on. It's a mirror of life. You might like to live in a smug pretty-pretty chocolate-box world and pretend that YOU - being so ENLIGHTENED - are not touched by life's misery. But that's only because of your indifference to the welfare of others. I couldn't possibly comment  |
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