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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 8, 2017 8:31:13 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, Are you trying to tell me that Zounds is a swear word? Zounds is a derivative of Christs wounds and yes its a swear word RIDICULOUS
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Post by annaj26 on Sept 8, 2017 9:23:40 GMT -5
heres a few more Sure, examples of using Christian words in English exist, although some appear dated: •My God! > My goodness! •(God) damn it! > Gosh darn it! •Jesus! > Jeeze! •Holy Christ! > Holy cow! •Go to Hell! •Devil take you! I missed out Jesus wept, not to mention Jesus H Christ As far as I know "Jesus wept" is not a swear expression but it's the shortest verse in the Bible.
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Post by mouse on Sept 9, 2017 4:26:04 GMT -5
Zounds is a derivative of Christs wounds and yes its a swear word RIDICULOUS why.. we are speaking of several centuties ago...it was quite a common saying and its easy to see how gods wounds decends to zounds English swearing today is quite refined in comparison with passed centuries
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Post by mouse on Sept 9, 2017 4:27:05 GMT -5
I missed out Jesus wept, not to mention Jesus H Christ As far as I know "Jesus wept" is not a swear expression but it's the shortest verse in the Bible. suppose it all depends on how its spoken and in what context
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Post by fretslider on Sept 9, 2017 6:02:52 GMT -5
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Post by fretslider on Sept 9, 2017 6:35:22 GMT -5
why.. we are speaking of several centuties ago...it was quite a common saying and its easy to see how gods wounds decends to zounds English swearing today is quite refined in comparison with passed centuries Speaking as an American, SL doesn't seem to know which planet she is on at the moment
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Post by mouse on Sept 9, 2017 7:52:44 GMT -5
why.. we are speaking of several centuties ago...it was quite a common saying and its easy to see how gods wounds decends to zounds English swearing today is quite refined in comparison with passed centuries Speaking as an American, SL doesn't seem to know which planet she is on at the moment naughty
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 19:51:23 GMT -5
Zounds is a derivative of Christs wounds and yes its a swear word RIDICULOUS I agree with SL and will add it's a ugly stupid word.
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Post by mouse on Sept 10, 2017 4:31:41 GMT -5
I agree with SL and will add it's a ugly stupid word. none the less it is a word which has evolved from a term used centuries ago when using religious iconic words were every day terminologys so swearing has become less religious based.. milder... and actually is more sexually based into days UK one word which I hate and which ive never heard any one but Americans use is mother fucker... I really do cringe at that one ....at one time I thought it an Hollywood ism for the likes of stalone and the German chap Arnie?who appear to say it every time they are on screen but then I saw a group of soldiers filmed in Irak and realised it wasn't just Hollywood but is zounds any worse than any other of the words derived
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 10, 2017 7:08:18 GMT -5
I missed out Jesus wept, not to mention Jesus H Christ As far as I know "Jesus wept" is not a swear expression but it's the shortest verse in the Bible. Hi Annaj26, I heard that Jesus was never known to smile.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 10, 2017 7:22:15 GMT -5
why.. we are speaking of several centuties ago...it was quite a common saying and its easy to see how gods wounds decends to zounds English swearing today is quite refined in comparison with passed centuries Speaking as an American, SL doesn't seem to know which planet she is on at the moment Hi Fretslider, My memory mightn't be the best, but I am always aware of where I am. No kidding.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 10, 2017 7:31:40 GMT -5
I agree with SL and will add it's a ugly stupid word. Hi Chefmate51, I am unable to browse as well as a whole lot of other things so wouldn't know that these olden words are classed as swear words. I don't like swear words at anytime.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 12:39:48 GMT -5
As far as I know "Jesus wept" is not a swear expression but it's the shortest verse in the Bible. Hi Annaj26, I heard that Jesus was never known to smile. There are no scriptures to support Jesus laughing or smiling. I found this commentary by R.C. Sproul: Did Jesus ever laugh? What do the Scriptures tell us about his character and sense of humor? I’ve heard some people answer this question in the negative by saying that laughter is always a sign of frivolity and a thinly veiled attempt to make light of things that are sober. They say life is a sober matter; Jesus is described as a man of sorrows. He’s described as one who was acquainted with grief. He walked around with enormous burdens upon him. Add to that the fact that there’s not a single text in the New Testament that explicitly says Jesus laughed. There are texts, of course, that tell us he cried. For example, John 13 tells us that in the upper room Jesus was deeply troubled in his spirit. We know that he experienced those emotions, and yet it’s strange that nowhere does it tell us that he actually laughed. You also asked if he had a sense of humor. When we translate any language into another, we will often miss subtle nuances of speech. If we don’t have a knowledge of the original language and its idioms, we might miss the humor. Also, different cultures have different ways of being humorous. Jesus used one form of humor we call sarcasm. In his responses to Herod, for example, he called him a fox and made other statements that I think had a touch of oriental humor to them. It’s purely speculative whether or not Jesus laughed, but I can’t imagine that he didn’t laugh for this reason: He was fully human, and he was perfect. We certainly wouldn’t attribute to Jesus any sinful emotions or forms of behavior, and it would seem to me the only reason to think he didn’t laugh would be if we first came to the conclusion that laughter is evil. The Bible does say that God laughs. In the Psalms it’s a derisive laugh. When the kings of the world set themselves against God and take counsel against God, it says that he who sits in the heavens shall laugh. God will hold them in derision. It’s sort of a “huh!” kind of laughter. It’s not a jovial response of happiness, but nevertheless it’s laughter. In the Wisdom Literature of the Old Testament—for example, in Ecclesiastes—we’re told that certain things are appropriate at certain times. There’s a time to plant, a time to reap, a time to build, a time to tear down; there’s a time to dance, a time to sing, a time to laugh, a time to cry. Since God has, in his seasons, appointed appropriate times for laughter, and Jesus always did what was appropriate, it would seem to me that when it was time to laugh, he laughed. © 1996 by R.C. Sproul. Used by permission of Tyndale. Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. ©1982 by Thomas Nelson. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 10, 2017 20:49:30 GMT -5
Hi Annaj26, I heard that Jesus was never known to smile. There are no scriptures to support Jesus laughing or smiling. I found this commentary by R.C. Sproul: Did Jesus ever laugh? What do the Scriptures tell us about his character and sense of humor? I’ve heard some people answer this question in the negative by saying that laughter is always a sign of frivolity and a thinly veiled attempt to make light of things that are sober. They say life is a sober matter; Jesus is described as a man of sorrows. He’s described as one who was acquainted with grief. He walked around with enormous burdens upon him. Add to that the fact that there’s not a single text in the New Testament that explicitly says Jesus laughed. There are texts, of course, that tell us he cried. For example, John 13 tells us that in the upper room Jesus was deeply troubled in his spirit. We know that he experienced those emotions, and yet it’s strange that nowhere does it tell us that he actually laughed. You also asked if he had a sense of humor. When we translate any language into another, we will often miss subtle nuances of speech. If we don’t have a knowledge of the original language and its idioms, we might miss the humor. Also, different cultures have different ways of being humorous. Jesus used one form of humor we call sarcasm. In his responses to Herod, for example, he called him a fox and made other statements that I think had a touch of oriental humor to them. It’s purely speculative whether or not Jesus laughed, but I can’t imagine that he didn’t laugh for this reason: He was fully human, and he was perfect. We certainly wouldn’t attribute to Jesus any sinful emotions or forms of behavior, and it would seem to me the only reason to think he didn’t laugh would be if we first came to the conclusion that laughter is evil. The Bible does say that God laughs. In the Psalms it’s a derisive laugh. When the kings of the world set themselves against God and take counsel against God, it says that he who sits in the heavens shall laugh. God will hold them in derision. It’s sort of a “huh!” kind of laughter. It’s not a jovial response of happiness, but nevertheless it’s laughter. In the Wisdom Literature of the Old Testament—for example, in Ecclesiastes—we’re told that certain things are appropriate at certain times. There’s a time to plant, a time to reap, a time to build, a time to tear down; there’s a time to dance, a time to sing, a time to laugh, a time to cry. Since God has, in his seasons, appointed appropriate times for laughter, and Jesus always did what was appropriate, it would seem to me that when it was time to laugh, he laughed. © 1996 by R.C. Sproul. Used by permission of Tyndale. Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. ©1982 by Thomas Nelson. Used by permission. All rights reserved. Hi Chefmate51, It is a wordly presumption to say that God laughed or even Jesus for that matter. People who only experience the things of this Earth will judge according to their own emotions. Jesus came to save the lost.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 21:30:18 GMT -5
There are no scriptures to support Jesus laughing or smiling. I found this commentary by R.C. Sproul: Did Jesus ever laugh? What do the Scriptures tell us about his character and sense of humor? I’ve heard some people answer this question in the negative by saying that laughter is always a sign of frivolity and a thinly veiled attempt to make light of things that are sober. They say life is a sober matter; Jesus is described as a man of sorrows. He’s described as one who was acquainted with grief. He walked around with enormous burdens upon him. Add to that the fact that there’s not a single text in the New Testament that explicitly says Jesus laughed. There are texts, of course, that tell us he cried. For example, John 13 tells us that in the upper room Jesus was deeply troubled in his spirit. We know that he experienced those emotions, and yet it’s strange that nowhere does it tell us that he actually laughed. You also asked if he had a sense of humor. When we translate any language into another, we will often miss subtle nuances of speech. If we don’t have a knowledge of the original language and its idioms, we might miss the humor. Also, different cultures have different ways of being humorous. Jesus used one form of humor we call sarcasm. In his responses to Herod, for example, he called him a fox and made other statements that I think had a touch of oriental humor to them. It’s purely speculative whether or not Jesus laughed, but I can’t imagine that he didn’t laugh for this reason: He was fully human, and he was perfect. We certainly wouldn’t attribute to Jesus any sinful emotions or forms of behavior, and it would seem to me the only reason to think he didn’t laugh would be if we first came to the conclusion that laughter is evil. The Bible does say that God laughs. In the Psalms it’s a derisive laugh. When the kings of the world set themselves against God and take counsel against God, it says that he who sits in the heavens shall laugh. God will hold them in derision. It’s sort of a “huh!” kind of laughter. It’s not a jovial response of happiness, but nevertheless it’s laughter. In the Wisdom Literature of the Old Testament—for example, in Ecclesiastes—we’re told that certain things are appropriate at certain times. There’s a time to plant, a time to reap, a time to build, a time to tear down; there’s a time to dance, a time to sing, a time to laugh, a time to cry. Since God has, in his seasons, appointed appropriate times for laughter, and Jesus always did what was appropriate, it would seem to me that when it was time to laugh, he laughed. © 1996 by R.C. Sproul. Used by permission of Tyndale. Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. ©1982 by Thomas Nelson. Used by permission. All rights reserved. Hi Chefmate51, It is a wordly presumption to say that God laughed or even Jesus for that matter. People who only experience the things of this Earth will judge according to their own emotions. Jesus came to save the lost. I will look up the scripture where God does laugh in derision at foolush people.
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