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Post by kronks on Nov 6, 2016 20:23:00 GMT -5
oh no you haven't """how do you feel about murder ? do you think a murderer should be able to escape punishment by buying his or her way out of trouble ? how do you feel about stoning ? amputation....and as a Christian how would you feel about being crucified for your faith..or being imprisoned for owning a bible""" I think the victims family have the right to pardon. No problem there. Stoning merely a methodology such as lethal injection which has caused people to die in great pain. Amputation is only used in exceptional cases, not petty theft, would I like to see a few armless bankers? Most certainly. They caused a lot of suffering. Hanging would be correct for many. Christians are not crucified in Muslim countries as a rule, if you are talking about a situation were a defenceless population are being slaughtered Christian bombs from the air, well those on the ground might not be too happy. Are you OK with bombing civilians?
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Post by mouse on Nov 7, 2016 3:08:42 GMT -5
am not talking about the victims family having the right to pardon....that is NOT what I wrote """how do you feel about murder ? do you think a murderer should be able to escape punishment by buying his or her way out of trouble ?""" given your proclaimed hate of the rich/wealthy..do you think it right a murder should be able to buy their way out of punishment ....of you do then oF course your hyporcrite
"""Amputation is only used in exceptional cases, not petty theft, would I like to see a few armless bankers?""" the more fundamental states use amputation ....and crucifixen is becoming more popular
what Christian bombs are you talking about..i had no idea that the Pope has declared war from Vatican city
"""Are you OK with bombing civilians?"""100% on any one who has declared war upon us...or has killed our unarmed citizens am quite happy to bomb or drone attack those responsible
I don't have a problem with fighting those who attack us[UK] what I have a problem with is rank hypocracy and victimhood and cowerdice of those attacks
war is never good.. war should never be undertaken lightly but some times one has to enter into war to stand up against those who would harm and kill us..who would destroy us...it is at that point I have no problems with retaliation....
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Post by kronks on Nov 8, 2016 17:03:40 GMT -5
Nobody has attacked us, I don't recall many Muslim jets flying over London or Muslim war ships sailing up the Thames. We are attacking them. What one earth is the USA doing bombing people on the other side of the planet? Crucifixion is too good for crooked bankers.
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Post by mouse on Nov 9, 2016 4:57:30 GMT -5
"""Nobody has attacked us,"""...Really ?...what alternative world do you live in kronks
you do come out with some weird statements ...and even when your given proof you ignore it..
but just a small reminder of some of the attacks.. London underground and bus Glasgow Airport the young off duty soldier murdered on the street plus all the attacks foiled and prevented then theres Paris bomb attack the cartoonists the priest beheaded in france the truck used to mow down men women and children Brussels America. .New York..Washington...the army bases..the bomb attack on runners etc etc Austrailia.. Canada.. Bali.. Africa ....
and you come out with pure denial ""nobody has attacked us"" ...unbelievable
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 5:08:09 GMT -5
"""Nobody has attacked us,"""...Really ?...what alternative world do you live in kronks you do come out with some weird statements ...and even when your given proof you ignore it.. but just a small reminder of some of the attacks.. London underground and bus Glasgow Airport the young off duty soldier murdered on the street plus all the attacks foiled and prevented then theres Paris bomb attack the cartoonists the priest beheaded in france the truck used to mow down men women and children Brussels America. .New York..Washington...the army bases..the bomb attack on runners etc etc Austrailia.. Canada.. Bali.. Africa .... and you come out with pure denial ""nobody has attacked us"" ...unbelievable We have just had a world-changing election. Can you lay off of the Muslim-bashing for just one day?
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Post by mouse on Nov 9, 2016 5:34:15 GMT -5
answering posts in a thread....tsk tsk how unusual on a message board..what ever next
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Post by Chelonian on Nov 9, 2016 8:35:55 GMT -5
"""Nobody has attacked us,"""...Really ?...what alternative world do you live in kronks you do come out with some weird statements ...and even when your given proof you ignore it.. but just a small reminder of some of the attacks.. London underground and bus Glasgow Airport the young off duty soldier murdered on the street plus all the attacks foiled and prevented then theres Paris bomb attack the cartoonists the priest beheaded in france the truck used to mow down men women and children Brussels America. .New York..Washington...the army bases..the bomb attack on runners etc etc Austrailia.. Canada.. Bali.. Africa .... and you come out with pure denial ""nobody has attacked us"" ...unbelievable We have just had a world-changing election. Can you lay off of the Muslim-bashing for just one day? How is it Muslim bashing to list true events of Muslims attacking others? Would it be Christian/Catholic bashing if I listed atrocities by those of that faith? Atrocities by muslims is the thing of the moment so of course people will talk about it. Once the attacks dissipate something else will be talked about often.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 8:41:57 GMT -5
We have just had a world-changing election. Can you lay off of the Muslim-bashing for just one day? How is it Muslim bashing to list true events of Muslims attacking others? Would it be Christian/Catholic bashing if I listed atrocities by those of that faith? Atrocities by muslims is the thing of the moment so of course people will talk about it. Once the attacks dissipate something else will be talked about often. Because it's daily, and relentless. Britain has never had a major attack, yet this bashing goes on every day. It's terrible. Try to wind it back and understand what is happening. This reactionary nonsense goes on every day.
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Post by Chelonian on Nov 9, 2016 8:47:50 GMT -5
How is it Muslim bashing to list true events of Muslims attacking others? Would it be Christian/Catholic bashing if I listed atrocities by those of that faith? Atrocities by muslims is the thing of the moment so of course people will talk about it. Once the attacks dissipate something else will be talked about often. Because it's daily, and relentless. Britain has never had a major attack, yet this bashing goes on every day. It's terrible. Try to wind it back and understand what is happening. This reactionary nonsense goes on every day. The underground attack and the red double decker attack were pretty serious. We've not had many attacks because a lot have been thwarted by the authorities. And we (at the moment) don't have an agenda to realise it seems. 9/11 was perfect for giving the invasion of Iraq a go ahead. Just the excuse Bush needed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 8:48:28 GMT -5
We have just had a world-changing election. Can you lay off of the Muslim-bashing for just one day? How is it Muslim bashing to list true events of Muslims attacking others? Would it be Christian/Catholic bashing if I listed atrocities by those of that faith? Atrocities by muslims is the thing of the moment so of course people will talk about it. Once the attacks dissipate something else will be talked about often. Yes, Chel, if it was an obsessive, daily practice. There are so many problems in the world, and, as I've said, you have to spool it back, especially in this case. It's not just Muslims; it's American and Brits and everyone who set-up, exacerbated, and exploited the situation in that tinder-box. A good way to take the spotlight off oneself is to demonize another group.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 8:53:21 GMT -5
Because it's daily, and relentless. Britain has never had a major attack, yet this bashing goes on every day. It's terrible. Try to wind it back and understand what is happening. This reactionary nonsense goes on every day. The underground attack and the red double decker attack were pretty serious. We've not had many attacks because a lot have been thwarted by the authorities. And we (at the moment) don't have an agenda to realise it seems. 9/11 was perfect for giving the invasion of Iraq a go ahead. Just the excuse Bush needed. Exactly. What did Iraq and Saddam have to do with 9/11? Nothing. Almost all of the people in the Middle East are irritated, to varying degrees, by the Western world. Some of them are out-of-their-minds, and don't see a future. This happens over and over and over. How did Hitler come to power? The Germans saw no future and they needed a scapegoat.
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Post by Chelonian on Nov 9, 2016 8:55:15 GMT -5
Well you have to take into account the suffering their crimes causes. Crimes which are the equivalent of genocide and result in a huge number of deaths and suffering. For example many disabled people are not getting the help they need because of their crimes. You will note none of the Saudi Arabian banks went bust, their bankers want to hang onto their limbs too much rob them. Whereas in the west bankers know the will get away with it because it is a "white collar crime". kronks wrote """Crimes which are the equivalent of genocide and result in a huge number of deaths and suffering.""" its impossible to have crimes equivalent of genocide....genocide is a stand alone word you can have an attempted genocide what huge numbers of deathsand sufferings did the bankers cause ? numbers please """For example many disabled people are not getting the help they need because of their crimes.""" how many disabled people are noty getting the help they need because of bankers """"You will note none of the Saudi Arabian banks went bust, their bankers want to hang onto their limbs too much rob them.""" and you know this because? proof In a roundabout way some of the current deaths due to the disability cyts can be attributed to the bankers. The public purse only goes so far. Instead of bailing out banks our taxes could've gone towards the NHS (thus helping the disabled in a positive way) or to stop any cuts to our disability safety net. Cuts left right and centre to much needed services because of the national debt. Such a debt was in part caused by bailing out banks that should never be bailed out by the public. If a bank messes up they should fix it themselves or devlare bankruptcy. Not expect the public to save it.
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Post by Chelonian on Nov 9, 2016 8:56:39 GMT -5
The underground attack and the red double decker attack were pretty serious. We've not had many attacks because a lot have been thwarted by the authorities. And we (at the moment) don't have an agenda to realise it seems. 9/11 was perfect for giving the invasion of Iraq a go ahead. Just the excuse Bush needed. Exactly. What did Iraq and Saddam have to do with 9/11? Nothing. Almost all of the people in the Middle East are irritated, to varying degrees, by the Western world. Some of them are out-of-their-minds, and don't see a future. This happens over and over and over. How did Hitler come to power? The Germans saw no future and they needed a scapegoat. Nothing but the general public didn't know that. Most Americans have no clue about the difference between middle eastern countries so it's easy to manipulate the public about it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 9:12:07 GMT -5
Exactly. What did Iraq and Saddam have to do with 9/11? Nothing. Almost all of the people in the Middle East are irritated, to varying degrees, by the Western world. Some of them are out-of-their-minds, and don't see a future. This happens over and over and over. How did Hitler come to power? The Germans saw no future and they needed a scapegoat. Nothing but the general public didn't know that. Most Americans have no clue about the difference between middle eastern countries so it's easy to manipulate the public about it. Exactly. If you don't read and don't pay attention, who is doing the fact checking? How the Hell did this nation wrap itself up in Iraq? It's not that the information wasn't out there. No one was paying due attention.
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Post by kronks on Nov 9, 2016 21:04:03 GMT -5
"""Nobody has attacked us,"""...Really ?...what alternative world do you live in kronks you do come out with some weird statements ...and even when your given proof you ignore it.. but just a small reminder of some of the attacks.. London underground and bus Glasgow Airport the young off duty soldier murdered on the street plus all the attacks foiled and prevented then theres Paris bomb attack the cartoonists the priest beheaded in france the truck used to mow down men women and children Brussels America. .New York..Washington...the army bases..the bomb attack on runners etc etc Austrailia.. Canada.. Bali.. Africa .... and you come out with pure denial ""nobody has attacked us"" ...unbelievable Those attacks were carried out by British and French people, I have not seen much carpet bombing of Bradford or Glasgow, for example. We have not been invaded. Plus you might like to tot up the number of bombs dropped and damage done by each side and make a comparison to see how disproportionate it is. Plus they pretty much all occurred after we invade Iraq.
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