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Post by mouse on Oct 28, 2016 4:27:58 GMT -5
Strangely enough, the Quran condemns rape. So the logical conclusion would be that a rapist who claims to be Muslim is either a liar or a bad Muslim. Just as a Christian who bombs an abortion clinic because of their religious beliefs is either a liar or a bad Christian. but mohamid the best of men raped so therefore rape is acceptable .. not forgetting the imjunction for a muslim not to hurt or disbelieve another muslim ..they skrew that one up too
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Post by mouse on Oct 28, 2016 4:30:39 GMT -5
"""•Local police say migrants have told them British anarchists were responsible for starting the huge blaze""" then round them up and shoot the trouble making morons....I think we are all heartily sick to the back teeth of these idiotic morons who make bad situations worse most of them will not be employed and so living on the state..so take away their benefits and if they are student remove ALL state help[anachists are usually living off the backs of others] an publish their names addresses and faces so they can be identified and then imprison them in our worst prisons and let them have a taste of real life... Hi Mouse, Apparently that is what they are experiencing now, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. There are genuine refugees amongst that lot, it is certainly no hayride, for sure.!!! Don't you have any empathy? deed I do...but right its not about empathy or refugees who are not refugees its about rape
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 28, 2016 6:12:57 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Has everyoe been tarred with the same brush?
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Post by mouse on Oct 28, 2016 14:07:03 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Has everyoe been tarred with the same brush? only those who pretend to be refugees who are not refuges and those at Calais ae NOT refugees...simples really
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 28, 2016 14:12:00 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Has everyoe been tarred with the same brush? only those who pretend to be refugees who are not refuges and those at Calais ae NOT refugees...simples really Hi Mouse, Have it your way, you always know best,!!!
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Post by mouse on Oct 28, 2016 14:28:24 GMT -5
only those who pretend to be refugees who are not refuges and those at Calais ae NOT refugees...simples really Hi Mouse, Have it your way, you always know best,!!! not me reality knows best if you have crossed countries and crossed the country to get to the coastal region....you are NOT a refugee as you have already reached a place of safety by crossing your own border not my definition but the UNs that at Calais are not refugees...
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 28, 2016 14:36:33 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Have it your way, you always know best,!!! not me reality knows best if you have crossed countries and crossed the country to get to the coastal region....you are NOT a refugee as you have already reached a place of safety by crossing your own border not my definition but the UNs that at Calais are not refugees... Hi Mouse, Once again you are on the right track. Good for you.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 28, 2016 14:45:59 GMT -5
as for the rape victim..what sort of cretins would rape women in such a situation..but we know its a feature where ever migrants are gathered....it would appear rape goes hand in hand with immigration and mirgracy.... .nasty vicious thugs..should be immediately transported back to country of origin with no appeals undertaken.... and a certain snip would be a fitting punishment but oooman righters would object or even better hand them over to the migrant women ..they wouldn't like that and would never be able to rape again there is no excuse for rape..none what so ever while not every male migrant is a rapist by any means...the numbers of rapes where migrants are gathered is a disgrace...and the women of Europe should refuse to have rapists imported into our countries.....no that would be sisterhood... Hi Mouse, Apparently these rapists grow up believing it is their right, and don't forget a good Muslim has virgins waiting for him in Heaven. If only he knew, there is no sex taking place there. Muslims have been hoodwinked, sex is only carried out in the physical body, maybe the next dimension up. As above, so below. But I'm not sure.
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Post by kronks on Oct 28, 2016 16:58:50 GMT -5
Strangely enough, the Quran condemns rape. So the logical conclusion would be that a rapist who claims to be Muslim is either a liar or a bad Muslim. Just as a Christian who bombs an abortion clinic because of their religious beliefs is either a liar or a bad Christian. Funnily enough under Sharia law - which I believe is, er, Islamic law - a woman raped is guilty of sex outside marriage and punished according to the local custom, eg stoning, lashes etc etc. It is legitimised by the Hadith – the acts and sayings of the Prophet Mohamed.
Stoning is set out as a specific punishment for adultery under several interpretations of sharia or Islamic law. In some instances, even a woman saying she has been raped can be considered an admission to the crime of zina (sex outside marriage).
In one case cited by Shameem, a 13-year-old Somali girl, Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, was buried up to her neck and stoned by 50 men in front of 1,000 people at a stadium in Kismayu in 2008. Her father told Amnesty International she had been raped by three men but was accused of adultery when she tried to report the rape www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/special-report-the-punishment-was-death-by-stoning-the-crime-having-a-mobile-phone-8846585.htmlBarbaric stuff Actually it is nothing to do with Sharia law or Islam as "convicting a girl her age of adultery would be illegal according to Islamic law." So Islamic law actually protected her but the mob ignored Islam law and applied secular law or mob rule or whatever. It is also a war torn region and the you tend to get rough justice in such places.
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Post by kronks on Oct 28, 2016 17:03:08 GMT -5
Strangely enough, the Quran condemns rape. So the logical conclusion would be that a rapist who claims to be Muslim is either a liar or a bad Muslim. Just as a Christian who bombs an abortion clinic because of their religious beliefs is either a liar or a bad Christian. but mohamid the best of men raped so therefore rape is acceptable .. not forgetting the imjunction for a muslim not to hurt or disbelieve another muslim ..they skrew that one up too You mean because he married some one aged 12 1400 years ago, I mentioned before the age of consent in the USA was 7 about 100 years ago. The age of consent in the UK was still twelve just 800 years ago, and before that there was no age of consent so it was effectively 0 at the time Mohammed "raped" his wife. It is extremely likely your ancestors are the time raped a lot more than Mohammed.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 28, 2016 18:25:57 GMT -5
but mohamid the best of men raped so therefore rape is acceptable .. not forgetting the imjunction for a muslim not to hurt or disbelieve another muslim ..they skrew that one up too You mean because he married some one aged 12 1400 years ago, I mentioned before the age of consent in the USA was 7 about 100 years ago. The age of consent in the UK was still twelve just 800 years ago, and before that there was no age of consent so it was effectively 0 at the time Mohammed "raped" his wife. It is extremely likely your ancestors are the time raped a lot more than Mohammed. Hi Kronks, It seems women will always be listed in the category of downtrodden in some way.
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Post by mouse on Oct 29, 2016 1:50:34 GMT -5
but mohamid the best of men raped so therefore rape is acceptable .. not forgetting the imjunction for a muslim not to hurt or disbelieve another muslim ..they skrew that one up too You mean because he married some one aged 12 1400 years ago, I mentioned before the age of consent in the USA was 7 about 100 years ago. The age of consent in the UK was still twelve just 800 years ago, and before that there was no age of consent so it was effectively 0 at the time Mohammed "raped" his wife. It is extremely likely your ancestors are the time raped a lot more than Mohammed. quite wrong kronks..nothing to do with Ayisha... kronks its no good commenting on islam if you are not aware of the realities much more to do with a woman whose husband and father he had just slaughtered and then had sex with...she didn't get to have an opinion...but he wrapped it up prettily so it wouldn't be adulterly he married her on the spot wasn't she a lucky woman ...see its all about possession..and ownership """It is extremely likely your ancestors are the time raped a lot more than Mohammed"" both you and I have absolutely no idea of what my ancestors did...however one thing I do know...they didn't write a book with pages of excuses about the hand possessing ...if a muslim has a slave or some one taken in battle as booty and they force sex...it isn't rape ..its allowed
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Post by mouse on Oct 29, 2016 2:01:29 GMT -5
not me reality knows best if you have crossed countries and crossed the country to get to the coastal region....you are NOT a refugee as you have already reached a place of safety by crossing your own border not my definition but the UNs that at Calais are not refugees... Hi Mouse, Once again you are on the right track. Good for you.!!! of course I am on the right track no point in saying what isn't true immigrants refuges migrants illegals..... chancers scammers terrorist all are separate deffinitions...it would be good if we could actually be assured that every one coming into Europe were toaly honest and we could take their word ....but we cannot do that as like Austrailia we have learnt the hard way....people are not always what they appear and an emotional response solves nothing
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Post by fretslider on Oct 29, 2016 4:00:43 GMT -5
Funnily enough under Sharia law - which I believe is, er, Islamic law - a woman raped is guilty of sex outside marriage and punished according to the local custom, eg stoning, lashes etc etc. It is legitimised by the Hadith – the acts and sayings of the Prophet Mohamed.
Stoning is set out as a specific punishment for adultery under several interpretations of sharia or Islamic law. In some instances, even a woman saying she has been raped can be considered an admission to the crime of zina (sex outside marriage).
In one case cited by Shameem, a 13-year-old Somali girl, Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, was buried up to her neck and stoned by 50 men in front of 1,000 people at a stadium in Kismayu in 2008. Her father told Amnesty International she had been raped by three men but was accused of adultery when she tried to report the rape www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/special-report-the-punishment-was-death-by-stoning-the-crime-having-a-mobile-phone-8846585.htmlBarbaric stuff Actually it is nothing to do with Sharia law or Islam as "convicting a girl her age of adultery would be illegal according to Islamic law." So Islamic law actually protected her but the mob ignored Islam law and applied secular law or mob rule or whatever. It is also a war torn region and the you tend to get rough justice in such places. How many ways do you want to contort and distort the actualite, kronks? Keep going, we could do with a laugh.
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Post by mouse on Oct 29, 2016 4:56:51 GMT -5
but mohamid the best of men raped so therefore rape is acceptable .. not forgetting the imjunction for a muslim not to hurt or disbelieve another muslim ..they skrew that one up too You mean because he married some one aged 12 1400 years ago, I mentioned before the age of consent in the USA was 7 about 100 years ago. The age of consent in the UK was still twelve just 800 years ago, and before that there was no age of consent so it was effectively 0 at the time Mohammed "raped" his wife. It is extremely likely your ancestors are the time raped a lot more than Mohammed. """""The age of consent in the UK was still twelve just 800 years ago, and before that there was no age of consent""" funnily enough even 800 yrs ago in England there were laws in force ...even longer ago there were laws in force and even longer ago there were laws in force and in all these time periods rape was unlawful it makes no odds whether it was tribal or pre Christian or post christian Brehon law Saxon law Viking law English law Roman law Normandian law ......rape has never been condoned ...it happens in war..we women know that. but in times of peace it has NEVER been condoned by any laws in these island s and that is the difference between islam and the rest of the world ....islam blames the woman for rape...[as of course do many rapists..she encouraged me is a cry down the centuries ] in islam a woman/girl is guilty simply by being female
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