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Post by kronks on Oct 29, 2016 10:32:36 GMT -5
You mean because he married some one aged 12 1400 years ago, I mentioned before the age of consent in the USA was 7 about 100 years ago. The age of consent in the UK was still twelve just 800 years ago, and before that there was no age of consent so it was effectively 0 at the time Mohammed "raped" his wife. It is extremely likely your ancestors are the time raped a lot more than Mohammed. Hi Kronks, It seems women will always be listed in the category of downtrodden in some way. I don't know about that there are downtrodden men too, more homeless men than women for example.
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Post by kronks on Oct 29, 2016 11:02:58 GMT -5
Actually it is nothing to do with Sharia law or Islam as "convicting a girl her age of adultery would be illegal according to Islamic law." So Islamic law actually protected her but the mob ignored Islam law and applied secular law or mob rule or whatever. It is also a war torn region and the you tend to get rough justice in such places. How many ways do you want to contort and distort the actualite, kronks? Keep going, we could do with a laugh. I am undistorted your somewhat biased view. I look at things in an unbiased manner as I have a scientific background, I don't find approaching matters with a biased minds is a good idea, it leads to you reaching the wrong conclusion.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 29, 2016 15:25:25 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, It has always been the case, that the so called innocent always suffer for the behaviour of the wicked, though in my book, everyone suffers the consequences of their own wrongdoing committed in previous lifetimes. 'You reap what you sow'
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Post by fretslider on Oct 29, 2016 15:40:31 GMT -5
How many ways do you want to contort and distort the actualite, kronks? Keep going, we could do with a laugh. I am undistorted your somewhat biased view. I look at things in an unbiased manner as I have a scientific background, I don't find approaching matters with a biased minds is a good idea, it leads to you reaching the wrong conclusion. I am undistorted your somewhat biased view.You are not distorted my somewhat biased view? If you'd be good enough to try that one again in a more coherent form.... There's nothing scientific about sharia law, the book of hate and the hadiths. And the [sharia] punishments being meted out to raped women are very real.
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Post by kronks on Oct 29, 2016 16:41:13 GMT -5
I am undistorted your somewhat biased view. I look at things in an unbiased manner as I have a scientific background, I don't find approaching matters with a biased minds is a good idea, it leads to you reaching the wrong conclusion. I am undistorted your somewhat biased view.You are not distorted my somewhat biased view? If you'd be good enough to try that one again in a more coherent form.... There's nothing scientific about sharia law, the book of hate and the hadiths. And the [sharia] punishments being meted out to raped women are very real. Sharia law is as just as any law, if we had it in the UK the would be quite a few bankers minus a few limbs, and less people suffering and dying because of their crimes. That is why many countries prefer it. But again you have been fed a biased and distorted agenda by people with a political axe to grind and oil to steal.
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Post by beth on Oct 29, 2016 19:19:11 GMT -5
I am undistorted your somewhat biased view.You are not distorted my somewhat biased view? If you'd be good enough to try that one again in a more coherent form.... There's nothing scientific about sharia law, the book of hate and the hadiths. And the [sharia] punishments being meted out to raped women are very real. Sharia law is as just as any law, if we had it in the UK the would be quite a few bankers minus a few limbs, and less people suffering and dying because of their crimes. That is why many countries prefer it. But again you have been fed a biased and distorted agenda by people with a political axe to grind and oil to steal. Are you saying you support vicious maiming and murder as punishment for white collar crimes? How sick, Kronks.
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Post by kronks on Oct 29, 2016 19:29:44 GMT -5
Sharia law is as just as any law, if we had it in the UK the would be quite a few bankers minus a few limbs, and less people suffering and dying because of their crimes. That is why many countries prefer it. But again you have been fed a biased and distorted agenda by people with a political axe to grind and oil to steal. Are you saying you support vicious maiming and murder as punishment for white collar crimes? How sick, Kronks. Well you have to take into account the suffering their crimes causes. Crimes which are the equivalent of genocide and result in a huge number of deaths and suffering. For example many disabled people are not getting the help they need because of their crimes. You will note none of the Saudi Arabian banks went bust, their bankers want to hang onto their limbs too much rob them. Whereas in the west bankers know the will get away with it because it is a "white collar crime".
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Post by beth on Oct 29, 2016 19:38:45 GMT -5
The disabled are looked after pretty well here. Anything less would cause a great uprising. We have mostly decent people who won't let that happen. From all I hear, the same is true in England. You're letting your imagination run wild, I'm afraid.
You're advocating for the wrong cause, Kronks.
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Post by mouse on Oct 30, 2016 1:05:21 GMT -5
I am undistorted your somewhat biased view.You are not distorted my somewhat biased view? If you'd be good enough to try that one again in a more coherent form.... There's nothing scientific about sharia law, the book of hate and the hadiths. And the [sharia] punishments being meted out to raped women are very real. Sharia law is as just as any law, if we had it in the UK the would be quite a few bankers minus a few limbs, and less people suffering and dying because of their crimes. That is why many countries prefer it. But again you have been fed a biased and distorted agenda by people with a political axe to grind and oil to steal. you know kronks you keep spouting off about a subject you know nothing about and you make it patently clear you know nothing..... about sharia you say ""That is why many countries prefer it""" which countries do prefer it...and what laws do they prefer sharia over
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Post by mouse on Oct 30, 2016 1:18:58 GMT -5
Are you saying you support vicious maiming and murder as punishment for white collar crimes? How sick, Kronks. Well you have to take into account the suffering their crimes causes. Crimes which are the equivalent of genocide and result in a huge number of deaths and suffering. For example many disabled people are not getting the help they need because of their crimes. You will note none of the Saudi Arabian banks went bust, their bankers want to hang onto their limbs too much rob them. Whereas in the west bankers know the will get away with it because it is a "white collar crime". kronks wrote """Crimes which are the equivalent of genocide and result in a huge number of deaths and suffering.""" its impossible to have crimes equivalent of genocide....genocide is a stand alone word you can have an attempted genocide what huge numbers of deathsand sufferings did the bankers cause ? numbers please """For example many disabled people are not getting the help they need because of their crimes.""" how many disabled people are noty getting the help they need because of bankers """"You will note none of the Saudi Arabian banks went bust, their bankers want to hang onto their limbs too much rob them.""" and you know this because? proof
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Post by mouse on Oct 30, 2016 1:23:22 GMT -5
Hi Kronks, It seems women will always be listed in the category of downtrodden in some way. I don't know about that there are downtrodden men too, more homeless men than women for example. homeless men are not equal to the way women have been treated over the centuries....there is no comparison what so ever
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Post by mouse on Oct 30, 2016 1:27:41 GMT -5
How many ways do you want to contort and distort the actualite, kronks? Keep going, we could do with a laugh. I am undistorted your somewhat biased view. I look at things in an unbiased manner as I have a scientific background, I don't find approaching matters with a biased minds is a good idea, it leads to you reaching the wrong conclusion. """"I look at things in an unbiased manner"""" when dealing with facts..then the facts speak for them selves and bias doesn't come into it.. and you frequently reach the wrong conclusion by not being aware of facts and coming out with total irelevencies
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Post by fretslider on Oct 30, 2016 4:25:01 GMT -5
I am undistorted your somewhat biased view.You are not distorted my somewhat biased view? If you'd be good enough to try that one again in a more coherent form.... There's nothing scientific about sharia law, the book of hate and the hadiths. And the [sharia] punishments being meted out to raped women are very real. Sharia law is as just as any law, if we had it in the UK the would be quite a few bankers minus a few limbs, and less people suffering and dying because of their crimes. That is why many countries prefer it. But again you have been fed a biased and distorted agenda by people with a political axe to grind and oil to steal. Keep taking the tablets, kronks.
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Post by mouse on Oct 30, 2016 7:04:38 GMT -5
I am undistorted your somewhat biased view.You are not distorted my somewhat biased view? If you'd be good enough to try that one again in a more coherent form.... There's nothing scientific about sharia law, the book of hate and the hadiths. And the [sharia] punishments being meted out to raped women are very real. Sharia law is as just as any law, if we had it in the UK the would be quite a few bankers minus a few limbs, and less people suffering and dying because of their crimes. That is why many countries prefer it. But again you have been fed a biased and distorted agenda by people with a political axe to grind and oil to steal. this is fortuitous...so who are you going to believe kronks ???the women who are on the receiving end or some pro sharia propaganda ...the Southall Black Sisters group could harly be described as anti muslim or being islaophobic ..whats it to be...truth or fiction ? British sharia court 'protects wife-beating suspects by sabotaging criminal proceedings against them' women's rights group claims Muslim Arbitration Tribunal (Mat) is one of 80 Islamic 'councils' in Britain Southall Black Sisters says it protects men accused of domestic violence Mat 'uses position of power' to persuade the CPS to drop charges brought Women's rights group has submitted evidence to sharia courts inquiry Sharia courts have been dispensing Islamic justice in UK since 1982 The Muslim Arbitration Tribunal has been accused of persuading the CPS to drop domestic violence charges and encourage women to return to abusive partners The Muslim Arbitration Tribunal has been accused of persuading the CPS to drop domestic violence charges and encourage women to return to abusive partners A top sharia court has been accused of using its position to 'sabotage' criminal charges brought against men accused of domestic violence Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886812/Top-sharia-court-protects-wife-beating-suspects-sabotaging-criminal-proceedings-against-women-s-rights-group-claims.html#ixzz4OZK7FAk8 Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Post by mouse on Oct 30, 2016 7:17:37 GMT -5
kronks wrote """"fed a biased and distorted agenda by people with a political axe to grind and oil to steal"""" I have no political axe to grind nor oil to steal nor fed a diet of bias and distortion.. I prefer to learn history and custom and practiser..
stark facts do not have an agenda stark facts past and present have no political stance or opinion facts from muslim documentations.. eye witnesses..muslim historians. and scholars..non muslim historians and Islamic scholars...Islamic chroniclers [employed by Caliphs..Emirs..Mullah..and even clerics...... [in the 20th century the Topaki palace where the amounts of information was over whelming] and that was without all the other places of information known and unknown Islamic history is readily available
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