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Post by annaj26 on Oct 25, 2016 12:37:07 GMT -5
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Post by mouse on Oct 26, 2016 4:42:37 GMT -5
never say never....its never over till all the votes are counted...and even then...remembering Bushes win it can be dodgy
what happens if a section of the people will not accept the demorcratic procees and accept the final out come ?
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Post by Dex on Oct 27, 2016 11:57:35 GMT -5
never say never....its never over till all the votes are counted...and even then...remembering Bushes win it can be dodgy what happens if a section of the people will not accept the demorcratic procees and accept the final out come ? Don't get your hopes up, mouse. It'll all turn out OK. Rove is just pumping up the Trump people so they will all get out and vote. Propaganda is what he does best.
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Post by mouse on Oct 27, 2016 12:28:57 GMT -5
I have NO hopes either way..ive said this before they are two of a kind.,.nothing to choose between them they are both as crooked as a witches stick it affects me/us only in International affairs and trade and the TTIP is dead so at the moment and I cannot see us ever doing another Irak or Afghanistan ...ever...weve seen enough mismanagement to make an entire generation very sceptical ...unless it was really in our interests in a very big way and I mean it would have to be very big we were lied to and by the lies lost good men...and whats more the liar[ours] has not been punished [you don't appear to want to punish your mismanagers] but your country your rules
ITS been very entertaining in a sad way this run up to your election....fingers crossed for all of you
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 27, 2016 13:51:24 GMT -5
I have NO hopes either way..ive said this before they are two of a kind.,.nothing to choose between them they are both as crooked as a witches stick it affects me/us only in International affairs and trade and the TTIP is dead so at the moment and I cannot see us ever doing another Irak or Afghanistan ...ever...weve seen enough mismanagement to make an entire generation very sceptical ...unless it was really in our interests in a very big way and I mean it would have to be very big we were lied to and by the lies lost good men...and whats more the liar[ours] has not been punished [you don't appear to want to punish your mismanagers] but your country your rules ITS been very entertaining in a sad way this run up to your election....fingers crossed for all of you Hi Mouse, In my understanding, life is not about punishment but about learning and moving on. which brings improvement to the person's thinking and therefore their behaviour. Every lesson learned is a bonus to mankind. We have to change our attitude in how we react to what happens in life. Unless we do, ofcourse life will go from bad to worse. Our attitudes are responsible.
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Post by mouse on Oct 28, 2016 4:07:58 GMT -5
and in my understanding people ought to be punish for wrong doing...other wise what is to stop us all from doing exactly as we wish its the fear of retribution and being found out that keeps many on the narrow path#others feel no need to stray but when some one hurts vast numbers of people..a little retribution is a very human thing to expect
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Post by annaj26 on Oct 28, 2016 9:43:35 GMT -5
and in my understanding people ought to be punish for wrong doing...other wise what is to stop us all from doing exactly as we wish its the fear of retribution and being found out that keeps many on the narrow path#others feel no need to stray but when some one hurts vast numbers of people..a little retribution is a very human thing to expect You're looking at it from you're side of the pond, mouse. These 2 candidates are nothing alike; they couldn't be more different. Your conservative side is still grumbling because Obama stumped against BREXIT. When it comes to Clinton vs Trump, she's by far the best choice for this country. Probably yours, too. Donald is very vindictive about the least little snub and he takes everything personally. He would never really be your friend. So put on a smile. She's going to win. All of the pieces will fall into place and the world will keep turning. Hillary and Teresa May will form a close alliance and things will get back to normal faster than you think. Trump will go on to set up a TV Network and be back into show biz where he belongs. You'll see.
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Post by mouse on Oct 28, 2016 14:21:14 GMT -5
and in my understanding people ought to be punish for wrong doing...other wise what is to stop us all from doing exactly as we wish its the fear of retribution and being found out that keeps many on the narrow path#others feel no need to stray but when some one hurts vast numbers of people..a little retribution is a very human thing to expect You're looking at it from you're side of the pond, mouse. These 2 candidates are nothing alike; they couldn't be more different. Your conservative side is still grumbling because Obama stumped against BREXIT. When it comes to Clinton vs Trump, she's by far the best choice for this country. Probably yours, too. Donald is very vindictive about the least little snub and he takes everything personally. He would never really be your friend. So put on a smile. She's going to win. All of the pieces will fall into place and the world will keep turning. Hillary and Teresa May will form a close alliance and things will get back to normal faster than you think. Trump will go on to set up a TV Network and be back into show biz where he belongs. You'll see. Obama is yesterdays man...and it wasn't the man so much as the thought he thought he was was entitled...but it did show a certain lack of understanding....not a good thing in politics and of course we look at it from our perspective...and very unedifying its all been..as bad as any thing that oik blair and oaf brown could conjur up how ever we have a view...and frankly I wouldn't give either of then a lift to ER Donald would be no ones friend..the only person of importance to Donald is Donald Clinton is just as bad for different reasons a liar and totally untrustworthy and appears to be quite needy some how I think as for May...she is am astute woman in her own right not some bodues wife
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Post by beth on Oct 28, 2016 15:28:19 GMT -5
You're looking at it from you're side of the pond, mouse. These 2 candidates are nothing alike; they couldn't be more different. Your conservative side is still grumbling because Obama stumped against BREXIT. When it comes to Clinton vs Trump, she's by far the best choice for this country. Probably yours, too. Donald is very vindictive about the least little snub and he takes everything personally. He would never really be your friend. So put on a smile. She's going to win. All of the pieces will fall into place and the world will keep turning. Hillary and Teresa May will form a close alliance and things will get back to normal faster than you think. Trump will go on to set up a TV Network and be back into show biz where he belongs. You'll see. Obama is yesterdays man...and it wasn't the man so much as the thought he thought he was was entitled...but it did show a certain lack of understanding....not a good thing in politics and of course we look at it from our perspective...and very unedifying its all been..as bad as any thing that oik blair and oaf brown could conjur up how ever we have a view...and frankly I wouldn't give either of then a lift to ER Donald would be no ones friend..the only person of importance to Donald is Donald Clinton is just as bad for different reasons a liar and totally untrustworthy and appears to be quite needy some how I think as for May...she is am astute woman in her own right not some bodues wife Wasn't Obama invited? I wouldn't call that "entitlement". I think Hillary will surprise you.
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Post by beth on Oct 28, 2016 15:30:57 GMT -5
I think the very best thing would be for the Brits to stop taking potshots at the Yanks and the Yanks to stop hitting out at the Brits.
We've never done much of that on this site and I hate to see it start up now. It would be nice to see us, 7 years up and running.
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Post by mouse on Oct 29, 2016 2:32:58 GMT -5
Obama is yesterdays man...and it wasn't the man so much as the thought he thought he was was entitled...but it did show a certain lack of understanding....not a good thing in politics and of course we look at it from our perspective...and very unedifying its all been..as bad as any thing that oik blair and oaf brown could conjur up how ever we have a view...and frankly I wouldn't give either of then a lift to ER Donald would be no ones friend..the only person of importance to Donald is Donald Clinton is just as bad for different reasons a liar and totally untrustworthy and appears to be quite needy some how I think as for May...she is am astute woman in her own right not some bodues wife Wasn't Obama invited? I wouldn't call that "entitlement". I think Hillary will surprise you. yes as head of state he would have to inform of a visist not necessarily be invited but he probably was invited..but it was strange not the usual hoo ha accorded to a head of state what is important is that he as head of a forign power felt entitled to to actually speak to us in our own country on the business of and election and promoted the side he wished us to vote for...add to which he tried to threaten or intimidate...now that is the pits...it was so patently obvious he was trying to protect American interests..and not concerned about OUR interest.....remembering we already were well aware of who wanted us to stay in the EU and why etc even MANY of those pro staying in the EU were rather taken aback and didn't care for the tine of the message along with many who were not up on why America was so pro EU as ive said before it went down like a lead balloon and actually if interviews were to be believed actually helped the leave campaign I realise some see me as anti American...from what I write..and that is sad because I am not anti American people its just I don't trust your government any more than I trust ours Hilary may indeed surprise me...but she has been in the public eye and public office for some time now...not overly impressive on any thing so far ...give her 6mths to settle in and then see whats what its the same with Theresa she has 6mths before any opinion can really be come to
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Post by mouse on Oct 29, 2016 2:47:17 GMT -5
I think the very best thing would be for the Brits to stop taking potshots at the Yanks and the Yanks to stop hitting out at the Brits. We've never done much of that on this site and I hate to see it start up now. It would be nice to see us, 7 years up and running. its only your election that's aired some opinions and on our side its not pot shots its opinions on the candidates but there are bound to be difference .. and if some thing is asserted is also reasonable to question that assertion and bring in a few facts to back up what is being questioned I don't think Any of the Brit posters are anti American..not liking some stances or actions doesn't translate into being anti...any more than being critical of your pres candidates or bringing up information to answer assertions using information to refute an acusation can hardly be said to be anti American this election has not been good for America [in general]the way its been played out and watchers are bound to have formed opinions we have a very different approach to our leaders ..that has come over loud and clear..we are very critical of them I have seen very little condemnation of Bush junior..and yet we [generalising]would be happy to see Blair in court and hung on tower bridge for his part in Irak and Afghanistan the differences couldn't be more apparent
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Post by beth on Oct 29, 2016 2:49:37 GMT -5
For the first year or so, I'm more interested in what she'll set in motion to help our economic situation. Once the "honeymoon" period is over, it will be interesting to see her branch out and represent us internationally.
Apparently, Biden has nixed the possibility of taking on the Secretary of State duties (too bad), but still hope he'll be somewhere in here cabinet. Hope she chooses wisely in filling all the available positions. Wish Kerry could stay where he is.
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Post by beth on Oct 29, 2016 2:51:58 GMT -5
I think the very best thing would be for the Brits to stop taking potshots at the Yanks and the Yanks to stop hitting out at the Brits. We've never done much of that on this site and I hate to see it start up now. It would be nice to see us, 7 years up and running. its only your election that's aired some opinions and on our side its not pot shots its opinions on the candidates but there are bound to be difference .. and if some thing is asserted is also reasonable to question that assertion and bring in a few facts to back up what is being questioned I don't think Any of the Brit posters are anti American..not liking some stances or actions doesn't translate into being anti...any more than being critical of your pres candidates or bringing up information to answer assertions using information to refute an acusation can hardly be said to be anti American this election has not been good for America [in general]the way its been played out and watchers are bound to have formed opinions hmm ... well, when you had your elections, we probably had opinions too and now and then even ventured a question or comment, but we did not jump in and take an overly familiar position. It's all in the way things are presented.
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Post by mouse on Oct 29, 2016 2:58:22 GMT -5
your elections are very visible on the media...I very much doubt ours was aired to the same extent if at all..more probably not at all plus our pre elections are all of 4weeks or so ...not a year in length we get it in our faces so we are bound to have an opinion... plus America has been seen the leader of the free world....so again it gives us a great deal of self interests in the outcomes of the leadership
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