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Post by mouse on Oct 19, 2016 4:32:37 GMT -5
from wiki Before the discovery of oil[edit]
On January 15, 1902, Ibn Saud took Riyadh from the Rashid tribe. In 1913, his forces captured the province of al-Hasa, from the Ottoman Turks. In 1922, he completed his conquest of the Nejd, and in 1925, he conquered the Hijaz. In 1932, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was proclaimed with Ibn Saud as king.[1] Without stability in the region, the search for oil would have been difficult, as evidenced by early oil exploration in neighbouring countries such as Yemen and Oman.[2]
Prior to 1938, there were three main factors that triggered the search for oil in Arabia: The discovery of oil by the Anglo-Persian Oil Company at Masjid-i-Sulaiman in the mountains of north-western Persia in 1908; but the consensus of geological opinion at the time was that there was no oil on the Arabian peninsula, although there were rumours of an oil seepage at Qatif on the eastern seaboard of al-Hasa, the eastern province of Arabia. The demand for oil during World War I. It became obvious that oil was going to be a crucial resource in warfare for the foreseeable future.[1] Examples that proved this were “General Gallieni’s commandeering of the Paris taxi fleet to ferry soldiers to the front. This happened when the city seemed about to fall”.[3] In addition to this, Germany’s shortage of oil supplies hindered their ability to produce aircraft, automobiles, and engines. The allies took advantage of this by producing thousands of vehicles to aid their war effort.[3] The onset of the Great Depression. Prior to the depression, a major source of income for the ruler of Hijaz was the taxes paid by pilgrims on their way to the holy cities. After the depression hit, the number of pilgrimages per year fell from 100,000 to below 40,000.[1] This hurt their economy greatly and they needed to find alternate sources of income. This caused Ibn Saud to get serious about the search for oil.
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Post by mouse on Oct 19, 2016 4:38:02 GMT -5
In 1908, the Anglo-Persian oil company struck oil at Masjid-i-Suleiman in the southwest of modern day Iran, the end of a seven-year odyssey of dry holes, disease and mounting debts. The discovery laid the foundations for the company that would one day become BP PLC and the rise of one of the world’s biggest oil powers.
Over the last century, Iran has become one of the world’s largest oil producers and a hard-nosed hawk within the ranks of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries known for its frequent challenges to Saudi Arabia’s dominance of the oil cartel.
Now that the framework of an agreement to lift sanctions on Iran has been reached, the cloistered country could open up again soon. But its relationship with western oil companies has been checkered.
For 40 years after it was first discovered, Iranian oil flowed to Europe, fueling two world wars and building resentment in Iran over the exploitation of national resources by western companies. In 1951, Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadeq nationalized the oil industry, kicking out the company then known as Anglo-Iranian,
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Post by mouse on Oct 19, 2016 7:14:47 GMT -5
What is the point in responding to you? You insult me and my intelligence constantly. My father has it completely correct. I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks. Well, I'd save the effort if I were you. ...the Middle East has been plundered for its oil since oil was in demand to power the Industrial RevolutionQ.E.D. plundered...is a price agreed by the seller and the buyer plunder ?? especially when it the buyer who has made the selling possible ? by exploration extraction refining trading..oil fields don't find them selves or go into production all on their own...some one has to have the knohow and the technical ability to set every thing in action the Sauds for example were just another Mideast warring tribal group until oil was found..and had no idea how to harvest that oil any way oil is running out or at least certainly not what is was so the they will need other things to fund their life style and are investing in all sorts of things ..who knows perhaps one day the Princes will actually have to get their hands dirty and actually work instead of importing labour for every thing from architects to cleaners and joy of joys Isreal has great areas of shale...which can only be a good thing..of course there are those who will not be happy...but so what...they are never happy anyway
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Post by fretslider on Oct 20, 2016 6:55:04 GMT -5
Whoever taught her should be in the stocks! May 26, 1908: Mideast Oil Discovered — There Will Be Blood. 1908: A British company strikes oil in Persia (now Iran). It's the first big petroleum find in the Middle East, and it sets off a wave of exploration, extraction and exploitation that will change the region's — and the world's — history. The industrial revolution started in Great Britain around 1760 and ended around 1840. A long time before an industrialised power found oil under the sand. It pays to know your history. Pipeline Politics: Oil, gas and the US interest in AfghanistanWAR ON IRAQ: OIL, PETRODOLLARS, AND THE OPEC EURO QUESTIONMagister Ludi
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 8:16:34 GMT -5
May 26, 1908: Mideast Oil Discovered — There Will Be Blood. 1908: A British company strikes oil in Persia (now Iran). It's the first big petroleum find in the Middle East, and it sets off a wave of exploration, extraction and exploitation that will change the region's — and the world's — history. The industrial revolution started in Great Britain around 1760 and ended around 1840. A long time before an industrialised power found oil under the sand. It pays to know your history. Pipeline Politics: Oil, gas and the US interest in AfghanistanWAR ON IRAQ: OIL, PETRODOLLARS, AND THE OPEC EURO QUESTIONMagister LudiI think that you need to update yours. Ariel
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Post by mouse on Oct 21, 2016 2:34:46 GMT -5
May 26, 1908: Mideast Oil Discovered — There Will Be Blood. 1908: A British company strikes oil in Persia (now Iran). It's the first big petroleum find in the Middle East, and it sets off a wave of exploration, extraction and exploitation that will change the region's — and the world's — history. The industrial revolution started in Great Britain around 1760 and ended around 1840. A long time before an industrialised power found oil under the sand. It pays to know your history. Pipeline Politics: Oil, gas and the US interest in AfghanistanWAR ON IRAQ: OIL, PETRODOLLARS, AND THE OPEC EURO QUESTIONMagister Ludigiven the amounts of industrial archeology around the country its easy to see how our industrial revolution started and continued in a village near here of about a dozen or so houses the local pub /hotel was once used as a mill...a weavers cottage originally with the typical three storey structure and windows it still has the waterwheel on the side..not the original of course.. its easy to see how the force of the river would power the wheel not only here but Yorkshire and Lancashire are awash with with remnents of the industrial revolution
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Post by fretslider on Oct 21, 2016 6:34:25 GMT -5
I think that you need to update yours. ArielI think you mean revise. Revisionism is the new black. How Orwellian.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 21, 2016 6:48:25 GMT -5
given the amounts of industrial archeology around the country its easy to see how our industrial revolution started and continued in a village near here of about a dozen or so houses the local pub /hotel was once used as a mill...a weavers cottage originally with the typical three storey structure and windows it still has the waterwheel on the side..not the original of course.. its easy to see how the force of the river would power the wheel not only here but Yorkshire and Lancashire are awash with with remnents of the industrial revolution It has to be an act, nobody could be that ill informed, could they....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 7:14:54 GMT -5
I think that you need to update yours. ArielI think you mean revise. Revisionism is the new black. How Orwellian. Not revise. Update.
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Post by mouse on Oct 21, 2016 8:51:00 GMT -5
given the amounts of industrial archeology around the country its easy to see how our industrial revolution started and continued in a village near here of about a dozen or so houses the local pub /hotel was once used as a mill...a weavers cottage originally with the typical three storey structure and windows it still has the waterwheel on the side..not the original of course.. its easy to see how the force of the river would power the wheel not only here but Yorkshire and Lancashire are awash with with remnents of the industrial revolution It has to be an act, nobody could be that ill informed, could they.... I really don't know..act or not the [proof is all around to be seen]..the industrial revolution is very well covered on all fronts not least archeologically and of course masses of info about every step of the industrial revolution in considerable detail in reference liberaries.. .later much of it photographed as soon as photography was available giving a lot of proof positive of the times photos of the relics of the other centuries I expect any moment we will be told the industrial revolution never happened...let alone happened in the time frame we know it happened ....... .revisionism seems to be very much the in thing now was it Ghengis Khan who invented the traction engine ?
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Post by fretslider on Oct 21, 2016 15:14:23 GMT -5
I think you mean revise. Revisionism is the new black. How Orwellian. Not revise. Update. Ok, the industrial revolution 1760 - 1840 (~80 years) Update that for us would you?
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Post by fretslider on Oct 21, 2016 15:15:44 GMT -5
It has to be an act, nobody could be that ill informed, could they.... I really don't know..act or not the [proof is all around to be seen]..the industrial revolution is very well covered on all fronts not least archeologically and of course masses of info about every step of the industrial revolution in considerable detail in reference liberaries.. .later much of it photographed as soon as photography was available giving a lot of proof positive of the times photos of the relics of the other centuries I expect any moment we will be told the industrial revolution never happened...let alone happened in the time frame we know it happened ....... .revisionism seems to be very much the in thing now was it Ghengis Khan who invented the traction engine ? Not Attila the Hun?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 15:21:33 GMT -5
Ok, the industrial revolution 1760 - 1840 (~80 years) Update that for us would you? Current thinking places it from the 1760s to the about 1940. Oil is considered a significant evolution and advancement of it. After that, the Age of Information, or Digital Age, came into being.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 21, 2016 15:25:37 GMT -5
Ok, the industrial revolution 1760 - 1840 (~80 years) Update that for us would you? Current thinking places it from the 1760s to the about 1940. Oil is considered a significant evolution and advancement of it. After that, the Age of Information, or Digital Age, came into being. How about a reputable source for that laughable notion. Oil was in use long before 1940. What do you think kept planes in the air?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 16:46:05 GMT -5
Current thinking places it from the 1760s to the about 1940. Oil is considered a significant evolution and advancement of it. After that, the Age of Information, or Digital Age, came into being. How about a reputable source for that laughable notion. Oil was in use long before 1940. What do you think kept planes in the air? Check out Brenan, Muir, and Butterworth when you get the chance. The timeframe of the Industrial Revolution has changed. You really don't need to be so antagonistic.
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