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Post by Jessiealan on Oct 1, 2016 17:34:42 GMT -5
Donald has gotten himself in quite a bit of trouble over the past week with remarks he has made about women coming back to bite him. Mrs. Trump has not been seen in public since July but other females are taking exception to his gaffs and rude comments.
Analysis: Donald Trump's Double Standard for Women
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has bragged about "being out four or five nights a week, usually with a different woman each time" during his youth and described avoiding sexually transmitted infections back then as "my personal Vietnam." But it was the sexual history of former Miss Universe Alicia Machado that he derided early Friday morning as "disgusting" and urged people to "check out sex tape and past." Trump, who told Howard Stern he had watched Paris Hilton's sex tape despite having known Hilton since she was 12, also said that Hillary Clinton had falsely portrayed Machado as an "angel" and "paragon of virtue" after she referred to the former pageant winner in Monday's debate. Clinton, in fact, had focused on Trump's behavior, which included ambushing the then-19-year-old Machado with television cameras during her workout. But for feminists, by putting Machado's character on trial, evoking her later and entirely irrelevant sexual history, Trump is engaging in classic slut-shaming. That would be holding women to a higher standard of chastity and assuming any unsanctioned display of sexuality is self-evidently damning. "It's a total double standard," said feminist author Erika Sanchez. "It's the whole virgin/whore dichotomy." rump's terminology also suggested only two categories for women: "angel" or "disgusting," the latter being a word he also used for a female lawyer who pulled out a breast pump and for comedian Rosie O'Donnell. "In these tweets is this assumption that in order to wrong a woman, that woman must be a saint, otherwise what you've done to her doesn't count," said Emily Lindin, founder of the UnSlut Project, which raises awareness about sexual bullying. In addition to Trump's dozens of conversations with Howard Stern about his own sexual adventures and preferences, the hypocrisy of Trump using Machado's public sexuality against her is that he himself owned multiple companies that profited off female beauty and sexuality — including a modeling agency and the pageant Machado won. He also tellingly referred to Machado as one of "my" Miss Universes. more here with videos of some of his sound bites www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/analysis-donald-trump-s-double-standard-women-n657601
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 2, 2016 3:26:22 GMT -5
Donald has gotten himself in quite a bit of trouble over the past week with remarks he has made about women coming back to bite him. Mrs. Trump has not been seen in public since July but other females are taking exception to his gaffs and rude comments.
Analysis: Donald Trump's Double Standard for Women
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has bragged about "being out four or five nights a week, usually with a different woman each time" during his youth and described avoiding sexually transmitted infections back then as "my personal Vietnam." But it was the sexual history of former Miss Universe Alicia Machado that he derided early Friday morning as "disgusting" and urged people to "check out sex tape and past." Trump, who told Howard Stern he had watched Paris Hilton's sex tape despite having known Hilton since she was 12, also said that Hillary Clinton had falsely portrayed Machado as an "angel" and "paragon of virtue" after she referred to the former pageant winner in Monday's debate. Clinton, in fact, had focused on Trump's behavior, which included ambushing the then-19-year-old Machado with television cameras during her workout. But for feminists, by putting Machado's character on trial, evoking her later and entirely irrelevant sexual history, Trump is engaging in classic slut-shaming. That would be holding women to a higher standard of chastity and assuming any unsanctioned display of sexuality is self-evidently damning. "It's a total double standard," said feminist author Erika Sanchez. "It's the whole virgin/whore dichotomy." rump's terminology also suggested only two categories for women: "angel" or "disgusting," the latter being a word he also used for a female lawyer who pulled out a breast pump and for comedian Rosie O'Donnell. "In these tweets is this assumption that in order to wrong a woman, that woman must be a saint, otherwise what you've done to her doesn't count," said Emily Lindin, founder of the UnSlut Project, which raises awareness about sexual bullying. In addition to Trump's dozens of conversations with Howard Stern about his own sexual adventures and preferences, the hypocrisy of Trump using Machado's public sexuality against her is that he himself owned multiple companies that profited off female beauty and sexuality — including a modeling agency and the pageant Machado won. He also tellingly referred to Machado as one of "my" Miss Universes. more here with videos of some of his sound bites www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/analysis-donald-trump-s-double-standard-women-n657601 Donald Trump is a DOG for sure and even then it is an unfair criticism of the dog. This man doesn't deserve to be President. He is OBNOXIOUS.!!!
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Post by mouse on Oct 2, 2016 6:41:59 GMT -5
Trumps big trouble is a big mouth...and not watching what he say or who he says it to..plus the amazing hypocracy of those who complain about him.. all he is really guilty of is being a man..and a man with money one only has to listen to a group of men talking when they think they cannot be overheard to find out that whether these men are just biging up or serious in their attitudes.. their conversation and attitudes leaves a great deal to be desired any one who thinks mysoginy and chauvinism is dead is living in cloud cukoo land of course many men are more adept at hiding their thoughts and actions..the Kennadys for eg..Clinton are on a few we can name but these people who hold up their hands in horror over Trump really need to try to be honest what do they think ..strip clubs..massage parlours..sex magazines..prostitutes are for???and internet porn of various degrees and why is sex trafficking such big business that it needs a never ending supply of fresh bodies ? the sex trade is there for men..and a very profitable trade it is to so cut the hypocracy for heavens sake
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 2, 2016 10:22:04 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, All the things that you have mentioned have never ever been part of my life, so I am unaware that they exist. Surely there must be some decent people alive that are not involved in any of these things.
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Post by mouse on Oct 2, 2016 12:02:30 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, All the things that you have mentioned have never ever been part of my life, so I am unaware that they exist. Surely there must be some decent people alive that are not involved in any of these things. of course your not unaware of them..weve had enough threads etc about real life in the real world you don't have to work or patronise massage parlours n strip clubs to know they exist and what is entailed..same with sex trafficking etc etc and a prossie is a prossie in any ones language given such places and given trafficking of women and girls exists...why do you think they exist?..who do you think they exist for ???and where does the money come from that keeps these places open ? and who do you think buys the magazines...they are not exactly womens own with knitting patterns are they are they and given you answered Jessies post....then the assumption is you fully understand what the double standards are.. and I think its generally aknowldged that groups of men together are more free to speak to each other than they would be in mixed company....if only because the women would soon shout them down as a mother and grandmother of sons and grandsons I am under no illusions about lads nights out..batcholor weekends and stag nights etc etc
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Post by annaj26 on Oct 2, 2016 13:07:14 GMT -5
Most of what you're saying is pretty old fashioned, mouse. Trump is old fashioned in the same way.
Trumps past week has given me solid hope he is not going to win. He was practically frothing at the mouth at that latest rally and his crowd numbers are down, too. The people left remind me a lot of the kind of people Palin attracted.
More and more people are realizing we do not want this man in charge of ahything important to this country.
I don't think he'll win.
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Post by annaj26 on Oct 2, 2016 13:13:37 GMT -5
Trumps big trouble is a big mouth...and not watching what he say or who he says it to..plus the amazing hypocracy of those who complain about him.. all he is really guilty of is being a man..and a man with money Wrong, mouse, it's the amazing hypocrisy of Donald Trump. He can't lie his way out of statements made and recorded over the past 3 decades. He can't deny is tax scams or his repeated mistreatment of ex wives and other women. I think he's just about toast. The people who do not care about these things are not enough to win him the election. They might not vote for Clinton, but all they have to do is stay home.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 19:15:44 GMT -5
Trumps big trouble is a big mouth...and not watching what he say or who he says it to..plus the amazing hypocracy of those who complain about him.. all he is really guilty of is being a man..and a man with money Wrong, mouse, it's the amazing hypocrisy of Donald Trump. He can't lie his way out of statements made and recorded over the past 3 decades. He can't deny is tax scams or his repeated mistreatment of ex wives and other women. I think he's just about toast. The people who do not care about these things are not enough to win him the election. They might not vote for Clinton, but all they have to do is stay home. I said on here that he was toast a while back. People don't want to accept it. Unless he (or Assange) has some devastating ace up his sleeve, Hillary will be the next President.
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Post by Jessiealan on Oct 2, 2016 21:08:13 GMT -5
The media has taken up the hue and cry about the 1995 Income Tox filings. Many won't care, but some will.
Those who want Trump top win to fulfill their racist dreams have always been his most loyal supporters. None of these other things will matter to them, but they do matter to the rest.
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Post by mouse on Oct 3, 2016 2:04:26 GMT -5
Most of what you're saying is pretty old fashioned, mouse. Trump is old fashioned in the same way. Trumps past week has given me solid hope he is not going to win. He was practically frothing at the mouth at that latest rally and his crowd numbers are down, too. The people left remind me a lot of the kind of people Palin attracted. More and more people are realizing we do not want this man in charge of ahything important to this country. I don't think he'll win. hardly old fashioned at all...the double standards exist and its certainly old fashioned hypocracy to pretend otherwise the fact that hands go up in horror at Trumps words is as much hypocracy as the Victorians covering up table legs but the fact that people are turning away from Trump is looking in from the outside to Americas benefit he would be a disaster waiting to happen
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Post by mouse on Oct 3, 2016 2:06:33 GMT -5
Trumps big trouble is a big mouth...and not watching what he say or who he says it to..plus the amazing hypocracy of those who complain about him.. all he is really guilty of is being a man..and a man with money Wrong, mouse, it's the amazing hypocrisy of Donald Trump. He can't lie his way out of statements made and recorded over the past 3 decades. He can't deny is tax scams or his repeated mistreatment of ex wives and other women. I think he's just about toast. The people who do not care about these things are not enough to win him the election. They might not vote for Clinton, but all they have to do is stay home. lies told about taxes etc are quite different from arrogant mysogeny and chauvinism and treatment of wives and women..all he is guilty of is being a big mouth man with money..and NOT watching what he says..or if preferred he is guilty of getting found out......and that's the hypocracy and where the hypocracy comes in my original opinion of him and his behaviour hasn't changed if anything it is lower than it was .... the fact he is even standing for president is an indictment on the existing political elite
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Post by Jessiealan on Oct 3, 2016 10:46:21 GMT -5
Most of what you're saying is pretty old fashioned, mouse. Trump is old fashioned in the same way. Trumps past week has given me solid hope he is not going to win. He was practically frothing at the mouth at that latest rally and his crowd numbers are down, too. The people left remind me a lot of the kind of people Palin attracted. More and more people are realizing we do not want this man in charge of ahything important to this country. I don't think he'll win. hardly old fashioned at all...the double standards exist and its certainly old fashioned hypocracy to pretend otherwise the fact that hands go up in horror at Trumps words is as much hypocracy as the Victorians covering up table legs but the fact that people are turning away from Trump is looking in from the outside to Americas benefit he would be a disaster waiting to happen I do see what she means, Mouse. Trump has a sort of "old boy's club" attitude toward women. Not all men think that way. In fact, the number who do is less and less all the time.
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Post by Jessiealan on Oct 3, 2016 10:50:01 GMT -5
Wrong, mouse, it's the amazing hypocrisy of Donald Trump. He can't lie his way out of statements made and recorded over the past 3 decades. He can't deny is tax scams or his repeated mistreatment of ex wives and other women. I think he's just about toast. The people who do not care about these things are not enough to win him the election. They might not vote for Clinton, but all they have to do is stay home. lies told about taxes etc are quite different from arrogant mysogeny and chauvinism and treatment of wives and women..all he is guilty of is being a big mouth man with money..and NOT watching what he says..or if preferred he is guilty of getting found out......and that's the hypocracy and where the hypocracy comes in my original opinion of him and his behaviour hasn't changed if anything it is lower than it was .... the fact he is even standing for president is an indictment on the existing political elite Both Trump and Clinton are too old to be President. We have had 3 younger Presidents in a row, now, Clinton, Bush and Obama. The atmosphere and turn of thought are apt to be entirely different with either of the two running now. I predict whoever wins will only serve one term.
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Post by beth on Oct 3, 2016 11:44:33 GMT -5
lies told about taxes etc are quite different from arrogant mysogeny and chauvinism and treatment of wives and women..all he is guilty of is being a big mouth man with money..and NOT watching what he says..or if preferred he is guilty of getting found out......and that's the hypocracy and where the hypocracy comes in my original opinion of him and his behaviour hasn't changed if anything it is lower than it was .... the fact he is even standing for president is an indictment on the existing political elite Both Trump and Clinton are too old to be President. We have had 3 younger Presidents in a row, now, Clinton, Bush and Obama. The atmosphere and turn of thought are apt to be entirely different with either of the two running now. I predict whoever wins will only serve one term. I think you very well could be right, Jessie. You aren't the first person I've heard mention age. I think a lot of people have thought of it but are afraid to say so because the Boomers and a good number of the "great generation" still around might take offense. The atmosphere WILL probably be different. Not necessarily worse, but maybe less upbeat. We'll have to wait and see.
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Post by annaj26 on Oct 3, 2016 12:59:18 GMT -5
lies told about taxes etc are quite different from arrogant mysogeny and chauvinism and treatment of wives and women..all he is guilty of is being a big mouth man with money..and NOT watching what he says..or if preferred he is guilty of getting found out......and that's the hypocracy and where the hypocracy comes in my original opinion of him and his behaviour hasn't changed if anything it is lower than it was .... the fact he is even standing for president is an indictment on the existing political elite It does not matter what he's talking about, he lies and lies and lies. Then he repeats things over and over like he's trying to use subliminals to plant ideas into people's minds. creepo!
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