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Post by Sysop3 on Aug 19, 2016 14:37:35 GMT -5
It was obvious to anybody with a working brain that the FBI would have had good reason to recommend no prosecution for the email account. They are supposed to be non-partisan but Congress was counting on James Comey to be a good enough Republican to bring them what they needed to get Hillary out of the election. Most of them are so ready to tilt a decision they can't believe there are still honest people in government and law enforcement.
This should be an end to the wailing and wringing hands.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 21:31:17 GMT -5
Pressed by the F.B.I. about her email practices at the State Department, Hillary Clinton told investigators that former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell had advised her to use a personal email account I believe I mentioned, a couple of weeks or so ago, that Powell, Rice and others had set a precedent. But not a private server. It has become clear that resources and contacts have been jettisoned into the Clinton Foundation.
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Post by beth on Aug 19, 2016 23:54:54 GMT -5
I believe I mentioned, a couple of weeks or so ago, that Powell, Rice and others had set a precedent. But not a private server. It has become clear that resources and contacts have been jettisoned into the Clinton Foundation. I'm going to keep following this. Where did you read/hear that, Ariel? If that's correct, the Clintons would have to be a lot more stupid than I think they are.
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Post by beth on Aug 19, 2016 23:57:23 GMT -5
But not a private server. It has become clear that resources and contacts have been jettisoned into the Clinton Foundation. Become clear to whom? Republican operatives and hard rock right wingers? The Koch Brothers? Can you supply a source (link) for that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 19:54:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 20:06:46 GMT -5
But not a private server. It has become clear that resources and contacts have been jettisoned into the Clinton Foundation. I'm going to keep following this. Where did you read/hear that, Ariel? If that's correct, the Clintons would have to be a lot more stupid than I think they are. Powell was Sec. of State during a different period. He used AOL. He also used the official server for classified emails. Powell never set up his own server.
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Post by beth on Aug 21, 2016 10:57:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. Maybe so, but IMHO, this situation has been so disgracefully politicized, there's no way of knowing what interpretation is more nearly correct. The foundation has been in the sights of the loaded gun of the opposition for as long as it's existed. The way I believe Clinton was "careless" was in not realizing anything that could be twisted and used for ammunition should have been strenuously avoided. I don't care much for Hillary, but I don't think she's a "crook". That's part of the "vast right wing conspiracy" that's alive and well today. The Clintons, like the Obamas, are too well liked among the voting public in this country to be allowed even a modicum of respect from the ragin' Right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 16:51:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. Maybe so, but IMHO, this situation has been so disgracefully politicized, there's no way of knowing what interpretation is more nearly correct. The foundation has been in the sights of the loaded gun of the opposition for as long as it's existed. The way I believe Clinton was "careless" was in not realizing anything that could be twisted and used for ammunition should have been strenuously avoided. I don't care much for Hillary, but I don't think she's a "crook". That's part of the "vast right wing conspiracy" that's alive and well today. The Clintons, like the Obamas, are too well liked among the voting public in this country to be allowed even a modicum of respect from the ragin' Right. There is a sense that the Clintons consider themselves to be exceptional and superior. I shudder when I see the videos of Bill wagging his finger and lying to the American public. I always get the feeling that theirs is an intellectual exercise instead of a heartfelt investment. I'm not sure how else to put it into words. When Bernie spoke, there was a person there, who held beliefs and convictions. There is a disconnect with Hillary.
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Post by beth on Aug 21, 2016 17:36:07 GMT -5
Well, of course. Between Bernie and Hillary .. no contest. Bernie is a good and honest man - rare. I have a little hang-up about our elected officials at the national level .. I want them to be intelligent. Bernie as Democratic candidate would have made me happy. The Clinton's give the impression they sometimes speak with forked tongue, but Trump is much worse. Trump gives me the impression he isn't very bright and, instead, tries to surround himself with people who will make up for his less-ness. But, alas, a couple of older generation Americans have fear of Socialism to the degree it can almost be classified as a phobia. So, we aren't going to get Bernie. Better Clinton than Trump. With Trump, who knows who will be making decisions vital to the best interests of Americans.
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Post by kronks on Aug 21, 2016 21:18:07 GMT -5
The election is from the Wizard of Oz, the Scarecrow v The Tinman.
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Post by beth on Aug 21, 2016 21:28:02 GMT -5
The election is from the Wizard of Oz, the Scarecrow v The Tinman. I see. "No brain" and "No heart" But that would be Trump and Trump. Where does Clinton come in? The wicked witch of the west??
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Post by Sysop3 on Aug 22, 2016 17:06:43 GMT -5
Powell was Sec. of State during a different period. He used AOL. He also used the official server for classified emails. Powell never set up his own server. Powell is now saying he does not want to be held responsible in any way. The former Secretary of State under President George W. Bush suggested that Clinton was using private email long before he communicated with her about the subject. "The truth is, she was using (the private email server) for a year before I sent her a memo telling her what I did," Powell said. CNN has reached out to the Clinton campaign, as well as representatives for Powell, and has not yet received a response. www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/colin-powell-rejects-clinton-email-defense/
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Post by kronks on Aug 22, 2016 18:09:31 GMT -5
The election is from the Wizard of Oz, the Scarecrow v The Tinman. I see. "No brain" and "No heart" But that would be Trump and Trump. Where does Clinton come in? The wicked witch of the west?? I'd say she is no heart, she is like a robot, she does not seem human, she is so fake. She looks like she is being a politician my numbers, nothing she says seems to come form the heart.
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Post by Jessiealan on Aug 22, 2016 18:14:51 GMT -5
I see. "No brain" and "No heart" But that would be Trump and Trump. Where does Clinton come in? The wicked witch of the west?? I'd say she is no heart, she is like a robot, she does not seem human, she is so fake. She looks like she is being a politician my numbers, nothing she says seems to come form the heart. ah but what someone "looks like" to you may have nothing whatsoever to do with who they are. Her daughter obviously loves her very much so it is likely she has been and is still a good mother. You are grasping at straws Kronks. You only know a few things you have read about Mrs. Clinton and are not qualified to profile her. Not at all.
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Post by kronks on Aug 22, 2016 19:01:05 GMT -5
I'd say she is no heart, she is like a robot, she does not seem human, she is so fake. She looks like she is being a politician my numbers, nothing she says seems to come form the heart. ah but what someone "looks like" to you may have nothing whatsoever to do with who they are. Her daughter obviously loves her very much so it is likely she has been and is still a good mother. You are grasping at straws Kronks. You only know a few things you have read about Mrs. Clinton and are not qualified to profile her. Not at all. Yes I am I have seen her and heard her speak, it is quite clear she is a pathological liar, and a generally all round nasty crooked manipulative person. Her daughter has little choice in the matter and is not representative of the population. Let's face it mum's lies pay her bills. and of course it is not just me who has problems with Hillary Clinton, a whole lot of other people do too, many of them "qualified". edition.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/colin-powell-rejects-clinton-email-defense/So now it seems she is trying to blame Powell for her use of a private email server. Sums her up really, a born cheat and liar and crook. She is an appalling candidate, the fact she has many years experience in high office in the USA is a sad reflection on the US government. ie rotten to the core.
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