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Post by mouse on Jan 19, 2016 2:49:12 GMT -5
am reading and brushing up what I already know about the early days about the Church of England...and all the factions at play during those rather troubled times..lutherens..lollards..Anabaptists..protestants..the 39 articles..and radical protestants..etc etc..the sticking point of the transubstantiation and of course the politics.... the deeming of heretics and machinations of the archbishops blah blah and the removal of bits of the church of Rome which still lingers on..ie the priests paid to say masses for the dead and gone etc[quite a profitable little side line] all power play but from the comparative safety of the 21st century all very fascinating I say comparative safety... as we do appear to be tottering on the edges of religious night mares yet again
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Post by mouse on Jan 19, 2016 3:01:48 GMT -5
no dear...its politics...do try to keep up Nazism is politics..in the case of 20th century Germany or another terminology is facism islam and facism have a great deal in common as well as both hating jews .. and were merry little bedfellows during the 39-45 conflict...history is very useful for remembering unwanted truths and now back to the church of anywhere but England...in your own time of course All IRRELEVANT to a thread about the CHURCH OF ENGLAND. it may be irrelevant to the thread...however answering posts is not irelevent and the last thing we need is a lecture on lurve...and doing nothing but send out vibes to Tibeten monks or what ever which apparently will cure all ills much more effectively than penicillin or any thing of a practical nature
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Post by fretslider on Jan 19, 2016 8:08:56 GMT -5
And as you've been told repeatedly now this is a thread about the CHURCH OF ENGLAND.
Got that?
There are loads of other threads on here where you can bash Islam or anything else.
That's the problem with authoritariansThey can dish it out but they can seldom take it, right Lin. Well, if the cap fits... In your case it most certainly does.
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Post by fretslider on Jan 19, 2016 8:10:14 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to love one another, Is this love in action? It's a kind of tough love - you sometimes have to be harsh to be kind....
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Post by beth on Jan 19, 2016 11:44:46 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to love one another, Is this love in action? It's a kind of tough love - you sometimes have to be harsh to be kind.... Every now and then, I'm sorry we don't have a "thumbs down" on this site.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 19, 2016 15:37:40 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to love one another, Is this love in action? no dear...its politics...do try to keep up Nazism is politics..in the case of 20th century Germany or another terminology is facism islam and facism have a great deal in common as well as both hating jews .. and were merry little bedfellows during the 39-45 conflict...history is very useful for remembering unwanted truths and now back to the church of anywhere but England...in your own time of course Hi Mouse, Love is needed in all kinds of circumstances, certainly in matters pertaining to the church and politics. That is why people are at one another's throats because of it's lack all though the ages. As I keep saying, when we have love in our heart, we behave differently.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 19, 2016 15:45:21 GMT -5
am reading and brushing up what I already know about the early days about the Church of England...and all the factions at play during those rather troubled times..lutherens..lollards..Anabaptists..protestants..the 39 articles..and radical protestants..etc etc..the sticking point of the transubstantiation and of course the politics.... the deeming of heretics and machinations of the archbishops blah blah and the removal of bits of the church of Rome which still lingers on..ie the priests paid to say masses for the dead and gone etc[quite a profitable little side line] all power play but from the comparative safety of the 21st century all very fascinating I say comparative safety... as we do appear to be tottering on the edges of religious night mares yet again Hi Mouse, people are very innovative when it comes to raising money to provide for our needs. We all have to live, and living requres money to buy food and clothing and any other necessity.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 19, 2016 15:59:02 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to love one another, Is this love in action? It's a kind of tough love - you sometimes have to be harsh to be kind.... Hi Fretslider, Usually when someone is being harsh, it means they are trying to take away a person's rights by standing over them. Is that good behaviour?
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Post by fretslider on Jan 19, 2016 16:42:11 GMT -5
It's a kind of tough love - you sometimes have to be harsh to be kind.... Hi Fretslider, Usually when someone is being harsh, it means they are trying to take away a person's rights by standing over them. Is that good behaviour? So by being harsh and not giving someone money to buy drugs, for example, I'm trying to take away a person's rights by standing over them. I said you sometimes have to be harsh to be kind... You really didn't think it through.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 19, 2016 16:50:44 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, Usually when someone is being harsh, it means they are trying to take away a person's rights by standing over them. Is that good behaviour? So by being harsh and not giving someone money to buy drugs, for example, I'm trying to take away a person's rights by standing over them. I said you sometimes have to be harsh to be kind... You really didn't think it through. Hi Fretslider, In that case, it would only be seen as being harsh in the eyes of the drug addict, nobody else.
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Post by annaj26 on Jan 19, 2016 19:33:15 GMT -5
So by being harsh and not giving someone money to buy drugs, for example, I'm trying to take away a person's rights by standing over them. I said you sometimes have to be harsh to be kind... You really didn't think it through. Hi Fretslider, In that case, it would only be seen as being harsh in the eyes of the drug addict, nobody else. You're losing the plot, SL. You don't understand what he's saying. Take a break and then come back another time and try again.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 19, 2016 21:17:00 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, In that case, it would only be seen as being harsh in the eyes of the drug addict, nobody else. You're losing the plot, SL. You don't understand what he's saying. Take a break and then come back another time and try again. Hi Annaj26, What makes you think I have lost the plot? That saying 'Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind' is as old as the hills and nowadays a person has to get permission from the courts in order to enforce something that takes away a person's rights as an individual. Ofcourse Fretslider could refuse to give money to a drug addict but that is not always the way to go. A drug addict suffers terrible withdrawel symptoms if they have to stop cold..So they do need help sometime needing to buy more drugs whilst at the same time tapering off the amount of drugs that they consume. I would give the addict money if that was what the addict intended to do, that is just how I happen to see the situation.
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Post by mouse on Jan 20, 2016 4:13:18 GMT -5
am reading and brushing up what I already know about the early days about the Church of England...and all the factions at play during those rather troubled times..lutherens..lollards..Anabaptists..protestants..the 39 articles..and radical protestants..etc etc..the sticking point of the transubstantiation and of course the politics.... the deeming of heretics and machinations of the archbishops blah blah and the removal of bits of the church of Rome which still lingers on..ie the priests paid to say masses for the dead and gone etc[quite a profitable little side line] all power play but from the comparative safety of the 21st century all very fascinating I say comparative safety... as we do appear to be tottering on the edges of religious night mares yet again Hi Mouse, people are very innovative when it comes to raising money to provide for our needs. We all have to live, and living requres money to buy food and clothing and any other necessity. what has that to do with the removal of the chanteries ???it wasn't so much earning a living as taking advantage off the grieving and gullible however those days on that issue are some 600 yrs ago.... of course similar religious factions still exist..under differing titles...and it always makes me giggle when people think that the ideas of communism are a recent innovation by athiests...when they go on about religion when the reality is...old idea different name
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Post by mouse on Jan 20, 2016 4:18:09 GMT -5
You're losing the plot, SL. You don't understand what he's saying. Take a break and then come back another time and try again. Hi Annaj26, What makes you think I have lost the plot? That saying 'Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind' is as old as the hills and nowadays a person has to get permission from the courts in order to enforce something that takes away a person's rights as an individual. Ofcourse Fretslider could refuse to give money to a drug addict but that is not always the way to go. A drug addict suffers terrible withdrawel symptoms if they have to stop cold..So they do need help sometime needing to buy more drugs whilst at the same time tapering off the amount of drugs that they consume. I would give the addict money if that was what the addict intended to do, that is just how I happen to see the situation. I knew I shouldn't get up this morning...
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 20, 2016 5:00:49 GMT -5
Hi Annaj26, What makes you think I have lost the plot? That saying 'Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind' is as old as the hills and nowadays a person has to get permission from the courts in order to enforce something that takes away a person's rights as an individual. Ofcourse Fretslider could refuse to give money to a drug addict but that is not always the way to go. A drug addict suffers terrible withdrawel symptoms if they have to stop cold..So they do need help sometime needing to buy more drugs whilst at the same time tapering off the amount of drugs that they consume. I would give the addict money if that was what the addict intended to do, that is just how I happen to see the situation. I knew I shouldn't get up this morning... Hi Mouse, maybe you just got up on the wrong side of the bed. LOL.
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