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Post by fretslider on Jan 9, 2016 4:55:20 GMT -5
So, now you're claiming that religion has a monopoly on love? I could say it has a monopoly on primitive barbaric violence Well, you could but as usual you'd be wrong, Fret. Actually, the facts say otherwise. You have a terrible blind spot where Islam is concerned. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 9, 2016 8:26:23 GMT -5
What are words, Fret? My religion teaches me that the Church includes all true believers whatever their skin colour, ethnic origin or language. Religion = nothing but trouble. Hi Fretslider, it is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who won't conform to good behaviour that is needed, so then problems arise. It is time people behaved themselves. |
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Post by Dex on Jan 9, 2016 14:34:13 GMT -5
Religion = nothing but trouble. Hi Fretslider, it is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who won't conform to good behaviour that is needed, so then problems arise. It is time people behaved themselves. But Lassie, there are some religions that do not respect the virtues and practice cruelty and other things we think of as vices. What about the church in New York that beat the boy til he died because his parents wanted them to get him to obey their rules. What about the radicals in all religions? They get their ideas from some of the churches teachings. Not all religions are good. Even the ones that look nice and peaceful have their faults. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 9, 2016 17:16:01 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, we all have traits that are considered faults. We wouldn't be here if we were perfect. We created the weaknesses in our character by the decisions that we made and put into action Until we learn to choose more wisely, we will just proceed from bad to worse behaviour, which is not in anyone's best interests.
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Post by ladylinda on Jan 9, 2016 19:15:45 GMT -5
Well, you could but as usual you'd be wrong, Fret. Actually, the facts say otherwise. You have a terrible blind spot where Islam is concerned. Actually the facts support what I said. You have so many blind spots you need to go to Specsavers! |
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Post by ladylinda on Jan 9, 2016 19:18:50 GMT -5
Mouse, the whole POINT of THIS thread was that it was ABOUT the Church of England.
So NOT mentioning it and going off on yet another Islam-bashing exercise is IRRELEVANT.
There are plenty of threads on here where you can attack Islam; this OUGHT to be about the Church of England.
It really is that simple but King Charles' head keeps getting in the way of things!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 10, 2016 2:04:51 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, it is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who won't conform to good behaviour that is needed, so then problems arise. It is time people behaved themselves. But Lassie, there are some religions that do not respect the virtues and practice cruelty and other things we think of as vices. What about the church in New York that beat the boy til he died because his parents wanted them to get him to obey their rules. What about the radicals in all religions? They get their ideas from some of the churches teachings. Not all religions are good. Even the ones that look nice and peaceful have their faults. Hi Dex, whether religious or not we as a race are not iinfallible, we make mistakes or behave in a way that is not becoming in our character. but we do have the capacity to learn eventually, don't you think? |
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Post by mouse on Jan 10, 2016 4:08:19 GMT -5
Mouse, the whole POINT of THIS thread was that it was ABOUT the Church of England. So NOT mentioning it and going off on yet another Islam-bashing exercise is IRRELEVANT. There are plenty of threads on here where you can attack Islam; this OUGHT to be about the Church of England. It really is that simple but King Charles' head keeps getting in the way of things! LIN....CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE I HAVE EVEN MENTIONED ISLAM where have I mentioned islam....truth is I haven't and your going off half arsed yet again...you really really ought to read what is written...and NOT comme out spewing huff n puff and then spoutoff in totally the wrong direction for the 2nd time..its getting rather tedious heres one post of mine on the topic it takes all sorts...personally I prefer the church of England as it was and still is in some places...reverent..quite serious at time...a good well educated vicar/preacher who preached with knowledge and knows his stuff and who could/can argue on matters of religion...a church which did and does considerable work on its parochial responsibilities while being mindful of overseas aids and responsibilities ...with care for those in its parishes regardless of background or beliefe a church which enhanced lives visually educationaly and spiritually ..a church which had no problems with glory or beauty and tried to enhanced its places of worship visually with music..paintings..ie humans presenting the best they could to the acknowledged creator..and the congregation made up of all sorts of people... running a true mix of people I simply cannot be doing with dumbed down and happy clappy with sound bites and people interrupting with cries of jesus lives and all that nonsence..it for some reason makes me squirm and be uncomfortable... but for those who enjoy that sort of thing..i suppose it suits but then I am pretty sterio typical of my type of person...very English for which I make no apology...one is what one is |
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Post by fretslider on Jan 10, 2016 4:17:27 GMT -5
Religion = nothing but trouble. Hi Fretslider, it is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who won't conform to good behaviour that is needed, so then problems arise. It is time people behaved themselves. Remove the pretext for the behaviour - ie religion - and they just might behave themselves, SL |
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Post by fretslider on Jan 10, 2016 4:46:50 GMT -5
Actually, the facts say otherwise. You have a terrible blind spot where Islam is concerned. Actually the facts support what I said. You have so many blind spots you need to go to Specsavers! We're barely halfway through January and you can really feel the love from the religion of peace Islam - Paris Police Attacker Was Absconded German ‘Asylum Seeker’ Islam - Organised Islamorape By Rapefugees Across The European Continent on NYE Islam - Britain Changing School Exam Schedules For Ramadan – Because Islam Trumps All Concerns And Practicalities Islam - Islamic State Militant Executes His Own Mother in Cold Blood for ‘Apostasy’ Islam - Paris Knifeman Shot By Cops Had Paper With Islamic State Flag On Him Islam - France to Mark Anniversary of Attacks on Defiant Charlie Hebdo Islam - Police Blunders Let ‘New Jihadi John’ Abu Rumaysah Escape to Syria - Another Headlopper Islam - Muslims Push for Blasphemy Law After Failing To Jail Pastor Who Called Islam ‘Satanic’ Islam - Migrant Tried To Sell His Wife To Rapists To Pay People Smugglers Islam - Several Shots Fired At German Asylum Centre, 1 Man Injured Islam - Islamic State Execute ‘Five British Spies’ in Warning to David Cameron Islam - Growing Collaboration Among Jihadists in North Africa Spells Greater Terror Threats Islam - French Citizen Who Drove At Soldiers Protecting a Mosque Is..... ‘Muslim Of Tunisian Descent’ Islam - Jihadist ‘Kamikaze’ Bikers Charged With Brussels New Year’s Terror Attack Islam - Paris Terrorist’s Wife: I Would Have Loved to Have Blown Myself Up With Him Islam - Brussels Cancels New Year’s Fireworks Over Terror Fears Christianity - Vatican Vexed Over Charlie Hebdo Depiction of God as ‘Murderer’ ‘Jihadi Junior’ Is Son of a Female British Islamist with Links to the Lee Rigby Killers  |
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Post by mouse on Jan 11, 2016 3:56:25 GMT -5
I see no apology for false accusation...nor admittance that I have posted on the theme of the tread
and poor old king Charles head tsk tsk.....
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 11, 2016 4:20:20 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, it is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who won't conform to good behaviour that is needed, so then problems arise. It is time people behaved themselves. Remove the pretext for the behaviour - ie religion - and they just might behave themselves, SL Hi Fretslider, I don't think bad behavior has anything to do with religion except in the case of Islamic terrorists. People are still being murdered that has nothing to do with religion but by people who are not religious at all.It is the individual who is being violent whether they are religious or not. What about road rage, there certainly is no need for that to happen. People being accosted in the street for no real reason and it is escalating. |
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Post by fretslider on Jan 11, 2016 8:12:00 GMT -5
Remove the pretext for the behaviour - ie religion - and they just might behave themselves, SL Hi Fretslider, I don't think bad behavior has anything to do with religion except in the case of Islamic terrorists. People are still being murdered that has nothing to do with religion but by people who are not religious at all.It is the individual who is being violent whether they are religious or not. What about road rage, there certainly is no need for that to happen. People being accosted in the street for no real reason and it is escalating. Xianity is not without it's problems... 'Church must repent for 'treating gays like second-class citizens' www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/12092773/Anglican-split-over-sexuality-would-not-be-a-disaster-says-Justin-Welby.htmlBut in fairness, Islam has to be the most evil and barbaric belief system devised by non humans. |
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Post by mouse on Jan 11, 2016 10:47:14 GMT -5
Remove the pretext for the behaviour - ie religion - and they just might behave themselves, SL Hi Fretslider, I don't think bad behavior has anything to do with religion except in the case of Islamic terrorists. People are still being murdered that has nothing to do with religion but by people who are not religious at all.It is the individual who is being violent whether they are religious or not. What about road rage, there certainly is no need for that to happen. People being accosted in the street for no real reason and it is escalating. you don't think behaviour has any thing to do with religion... many behaviours are EVERY THING TO DO WITH RELIGION...and to remove the pretext for behaviour then you have to remove a considerable opart of religion of course the appeasers and appologists then say its all about interpretation..well if the religion is so open to abusive behaviour due to interpretation...then one can say the religion is totally responsible in that its instructions are so open to abuse..we cannot have it both ways,... if on religious grounds..a woman who is raped by 5-7 men is then punished for having sex with men she is not married...there is some thing brutally wrong with that religion if unchristened or illegitimate children have to be buried in unconsecrated ground...there is some thing very wrong that's just two examples of religious norms..of two different religions....two examples picked at random of behaviour acceptable to the great and good of both religions and you don't have to look as far as Islamic terrorists to find bad behaviour..just look at the belifes as stated in any old mosgue marx was correct when he said religion was the opiate of the people...and the rulers used it up to the hilt to ensure their will...and they still do |
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Post by ladylinda on Jan 11, 2016 17:30:00 GMT -5
Actually the facts support what I said. You have so many blind spots you need to go to Specsavers! We're barely halfway through January and you can really feel the love from the religion of peace Islam - Paris Police Attacker Was Absconded German ‘Asylum Seeker’ Islam - Organised Islamorape By Rapefugees Across The European Continent on NYE Islam - Britain Changing School Exam Schedules For Ramadan – Because Islam Trumps All Concerns And Practicalities Islam - Islamic State Militant Executes His Own Mother in Cold Blood for ‘Apostasy’ Islam - Paris Knifeman Shot By Cops Had Paper With Islamic State Flag On Him Islam - France to Mark Anniversary of Attacks on Defiant Charlie Hebdo Islam - Police Blunders Let ‘New Jihadi John’ Abu Rumaysah Escape to Syria - Another Headlopper Islam - Muslims Push for Blasphemy Law After Failing To Jail Pastor Who Called Islam ‘Satanic’ Islam - Migrant Tried To Sell His Wife To Rapists To Pay People Smugglers Islam - Several Shots Fired At German Asylum Centre, 1 Man Injured Islam - Islamic State Execute ‘Five British Spies’ in Warning to David Cameron Islam - Growing Collaboration Among Jihadists in North Africa Spells Greater Terror Threats Islam - French Citizen Who Drove At Soldiers Protecting a Mosque Is..... ‘Muslim Of Tunisian Descent’ Islam - Jihadist ‘Kamikaze’ Bikers Charged With Brussels New Year’s Terror Attack Islam - Paris Terrorist’s Wife: I Would Have Loved to Have Blown Myself Up With Him Islam - Brussels Cancels New Year’s Fireworks Over Terror Fears Christianity - Vatican Vexed Over Charlie Hebdo Depiction of God as ‘Murderer’ ‘Jihadi Junior’ Is Son of a Female British Islamist with Links to the Lee Rigby Killers I wouldn't dream of denying you your right to be wrong, Fret. But could you please explain how all this is relevant to a thread on the CHURCH OF ENGLAND? Are you dyslexic or is the usual problem of King Charles' Head? |
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