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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 3:32:20 GMT -5
your exact words were"" The truth of ECKANKAR goes right back to Creation when the first Mahanta appeared and gave out the truth"" I guess it must have been an oversight then of Gods not to mention the Mahanta by name and what an awful lot of time wasting when God could have cut straight to the chase and by passed Judaism..Christianity and latterly islam and created eck and twitchel in the first place now what controversy was being created?... you failed to point it out You give me the impression that you are trying to pick a quarrell over my every word, and that IS controversial.
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Post by mouse on Oct 24, 2017 4:14:02 GMT -5
your exact words were"" The truth of ECKANKAR goes right back to Creation when the first Mahanta appeared and gave out the truth"" I guess it must have been an oversight then of Gods not to mention the Mahanta by name and what an awful lot of time wasting when God could have cut straight to the chase and by passed Judaism..Christianity and latterly islam and created eck and twitchel in the first place now what controversy was being created?... you failed to point it out By Golly.!!! I have memory problems, go easy.!!! I didn't think it was necessary. I think his name was Gacko and he appeared when the people became so wicked away back then. there were no any people when creation began....as genesis makes absolutely clear and after the creation God made man and from his rib made woman.. who after a talk from a sepent got together and produced two sons Cain and Abel.... who then mysteriously met and bred with two women from ?[perhaps it was incest] no mention of Gako or a Mahanta I am sure God wouldn't have left anything out as for memory loss.. join the club.. I often have to rephrase things when I cannot recall the right wordsor even what day it is
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Post by mouse on Oct 24, 2017 4:24:29 GMT -5
your exact words were"" The truth of ECKANKAR goes right back to Creation when the first Mahanta appeared and gave out the truth"" I guess it must have been an oversight then of Gods not to mention the Mahanta by name and what an awful lot of time wasting when God could have cut straight to the chase and by passed Judaism..Christianity and latterly islam and created eck and twitchel in the first place now what controversy was being created?... you failed to point it out You give me the impression that you are trying to pick a quarrell over my every word, and that IS controversial. quarrel no..but picking up on all the inconsistencies and the words you keep throwing out in my direction of course your inconsistencies will be picked up on ..mentioned etc and when you come out with things such as your being ""contoversal"" but don't back up with evidence then its right and proper for me to ask you to back your allegation up with proof you cannot expect to make constant assertions or allegations and not be asked for proof..and its ongoing this throwing out and never backing up me being allegedly being controversal was actually in responce to me using your words back at you.. but since then you have stated that the bible is Gods law and then that the bible is done for finished and over with out of date along with Christianity where Abe Moshe and Jesus are replaced with Tindall now we are back to creation where God drops a clanger and fails to mention the First Mahanta was at creation and gave out the truth not forgetting that knowing the truth about God whatever will unhinge us all[your words SL not mine and that unless your a paying member of EKC you will never partake of the truth...all that and not mentioning karma etc you claim your Christian and yet every thing you say is indirect opposition to the teachings ..you use Christianity to shelter behind even for me as an agnostic its all getting too silly and far fetched for words
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 4:46:11 GMT -5
By Golly.!!! I have memory problems, go easy.!!! I didn't think it was necessary. I think his name was Gacko and he appeared when the people became so wicked away back then. there were no any people when creation zbegan....as genesis makes absolutely clear and after the creation God made man and from his rib made woman.. who after a talk from a sepent got together and produced two sons Cain and Abel.... who then mysteriously met and bred with two women from ?[perhaps it was incest] no mention of Gako or a Mahanta I am sure God wouldn't have left anything out as for memory loss.. join the club.. I often have to rephrase things when I cannot recall the right wordsor even what day it is Apart from bad memories, I have been led to believe there were more than Adam and Eve created by the time the first Mahanta appeared, not everything has been written up in the Bible. Don't forget that other information by other holy men were discarded, so there is a lot that is missing.
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Post by mouse on Oct 24, 2017 4:57:33 GMT -5
as I don't believe the Adam and Eve story was anything more than trying to, explain the unexplainable to uneducated peoples I certainly don't believe some Mahanta appeared either at gods righthand or anywhere else ready to make good all the mistakes made by God its too far fetched and totally illogical
[India has some fabulous stories /fables/myth absolutely brilliant . it also has some stories which are so accurate in things that wouldn't be known about for centuries that those stories just have to be true or based on truisms]
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 5:08:22 GMT -5
You give me the impression that you are trying to pick a quarrell over my every word, and that IS controversial. quarrel no..but picking up on all the inconsistencies and the words you keep throwing out in my direction of course your inconsistencies will be picked up on ..mentioned etc and when you come out with things such as your being ""contoversal"" but don't back up with evidence then its right and proper for me to ask you to back your allegation up with proof you cannot expect to make constant assertions or allegations and not be asked for proof..and its ongoing this throwing out and never backing up me being allegedly being controversal was actually in responce to me using your words back at you.. but since then you have stated that the bible is Gods law and then that the bible is done for finished and over with out of date along with Christianity where Abe Moshe and Jesus are replaced with Tindall now we are back to creation where God drops a clanger and fails to mention the First Mahanta was at creation and gave out the truth not forgetting that knowing the truth about God whatever will unhinge us all[your words SL not mine and that unless your a paying member of EKC you will never partake of the truth...all that and not mentioning karma etc you claim your Christian and yet every thing you say is indirect opposition to the teachings ..you use Christianity to shelter behind even for me as an agnostic its all getting too silly and far fetched for words Like I said before, we are definitely not on the same wavelength. The Bible was written from the scrolls that were found in a cave and a lot of them were burned by the people when lighting fire to cook their food. You can see that all that was written has not been included in the Bible. By the way, we are all living today in God's Creation. You know perfectly well that I meant when there were enough people around that would warrant God sending a messenger to speak to them of God's truth.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 5:15:36 GMT -5
as I don't believe the Adam and Eve story was anything more than trying to, explain the unexplainable to uneducated peoples I certainly don't believe some Mahanta appeared either at gods righthand or anywhere else ready to make good all the mistakes made by God its too far fetched and totally illogical [India has .some fabulous stories /fables/myth absolutely brilliant . it also has some stories which are so accurate in things that wouldn't be known about for centuries that those stories just have to be true or based on truisms] Whether you believe in Adam and Eve is incidental, God doesn't make mistakes.!!!
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Post by mouse on Oct 24, 2017 5:44:04 GMT -5
quarrel no..but picking up on all the inconsistencies and the words you keep throwing out in my direction of course your inconsistencies will be picked up on ..mentioned etc and when you come out with things such as your being ""contoversal"" but don't back up with evidence then its right and proper for me to ask you to back your allegation up with proof you cannot expect to make constant assertions or allegations and not be asked for proof..and its ongoing this throwing out and never backing up me being allegedly being controversal was actually in responce to me using your words back at you.. but since then you have stated that the bible is Gods law and then that the bible is done for finished and over with out of date along with Christianity where Abe Moshe and Jesus are replaced with Tindall now we are back to creation where God drops a clanger and fails to mention the First Mahanta was at creation and gave out the truth not forgetting that knowing the truth about God whatever will unhinge us all[your words SL not mine and that unless your a paying member of EKC you will never partake of the truth...all that and not mentioning karma etc you claim your Christian and yet every thing you say is indirect opposition to the teachings ..you use Christianity to shelter behind even for me as an agnostic its all getting too silly and far fetched for words Like I said before, we are definitely not on the same wavelength. cThe Bible was written from the scrolls that were found in a cave and a lot of them were burned by the people when lighting fire to cook their food. You can see that all that was written has not been included in the Bible. By the way, we are all living today in God's Creation. You know perfectly well that I meant when there were enough people around that would warrant God sending a messenger to speak to them of God's truth.!!! ""The Bible was written from the scrolls that were found in a cave"" proof please....or are you reffering to the dead sea scrolls only found a afew decades ago of course its true that things were left out of the bible...perhaps they were left out because the bible was set and put together by man and not by God.. and man of course always looks after his own interests the bible is two books.. one Jewish history and one the new testament ie the testements from the various apostles and followers of Jesus
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Post by mouse on Oct 24, 2017 5:48:54 GMT -5
as I don't believe the Adam and Eve story was anything more than trying to, explain the unexplainable to uneducated peoples I certainly don't believe some Mahanta appeared either at gods righthand or anywhere else ready to make good all the mistakes made by God its too far fetched and totally illogical [India has .some fabulous stories /fables/myth absolutely brilliant . it also has some stories which are so accurate in things that wouldn't be known about for centuries that those stories just have to be true or based on truisms] Whether you believe in Adam and Eve is incidental, God doesn't make mistakes.!!! God doesn't make mistakes .. well according to you he has made a massive mistake Christianity .. which according to you is not good enough and so eck was invented to correct Gods mistakes in Christianity now if God didn't blunder and make a mistake there would be no need for eck would there
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 6:06:40 GMT -5
Whether you believe in Adam and Eve is incidental, God doesn't make mistakes.!!! God doesn't make mistakes .. well according to you he has made a massive mistake Christianity .. which according to you is not good enough and so eck was invented to correct Gods mistakes in Christianity now if God didn't blunder and make a mistake there would be no need for eck would there Gee!!! You are ignorant. Truth is ongoing some has been written in the Bible and at the present time truth is an ongoing feature of ECKANKAR as we have a Mahanta who is God's messenger and therefore is giving out God's truth to all members.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 6:13:17 GMT -5
Whether you believe in Adam and Eve is incidental, God doesn't make mistakes.!!! God doesn't make mistakes .. well according to you he has made a massive mistake Christianity .. which according to you is not good enough and so eck was invented to correct Gods mistakes in Christianity now if God didn't blunder and make a mistake there would be no need for eck would there You are putting words in my mouth again. There is a place for everything. Are history books relating to the past made obsolete just because present history is being recorded?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 6:20:52 GMT -5
Like I said before, we are definitely not on the same wavelength. cThe Bible was written from the scrolls that were found in a cave and a lot of them were burned by the people when lighting fire to cook their food. You can see that all that was written has not been included in the Bible. By the way, we are all living today in God's Creation. You know perfectly well that I meant when there were enough people around that would warrant God sending a messenger to speak to them of God's truth.!!! ""The Bible was written from the scrolls that were found in a cave"" proof please....or are you reffering to the dead sea scrolls only found a afew decades ago of course its true that things were left out of the bible...perhaps they were left out because the bible was set and put together by man and not by God.. and man of course always looks after his own interests the bible is two books.. one Jewish history and one the new testament ie the testements from the various apostles and followers of Jesus Why should you be able to use the Bible for your own ends and according to you I'm not allowed to do the same.
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Post by mouse on Oct 24, 2017 6:40:45 GMT -5
I don't use the bible for my own ends..i simply say it is two books... one a history of the Jewish peoples the other contains the individual testements of the apostles and followers of Jesus its fact that there are other writings not used in the bible..there is not one word of untruth in what I have written.. it is also true fact that men wrote the bible ...as these are all true facts and common knowledge and it benefits me not an iota... but you certainly have used the bible and Christianity for your own ends considering according to you they are defunct then its dishonest
and you never answer a straight question so please bring your proof that the bible was written from scrolls found in a cave..
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Post by mouse on Oct 24, 2017 6:54:56 GMT -5
God doesn't make mistakes .. well according to you he has made a massive mistake Christianity .. which according to you is not good enough and so eck was invented to correct Gods mistakes in Christianity now if God didn't blunder and make a mistake there would be no need for eck would there You are putting words in my mouth again. There is a place for everything. Are history books relating to the past made obsolete just because present history is being recorded? am, not putting words in your mouth I am simply going by what you say and trying to wriggle by bringing history into it wont work... how can a beliefe system which is exact in its meanings etc be up dated... there is no room for updating.. there is no question of room for improvement Christinity is a faith entire of its self ...and makes its self perfectly clear ..I am the way the truth and the life .....if any man believeth in me...etc .. at no point doe it say.. whoops ive made a mistake so I am going to send another prophet to start another religion..
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 24, 2017 7:24:04 GMT -5
You are putting words in my mouth again. There is a place for everything. Are history books relating to the past made obsolete just because present history is being recorded? am, not putting words in your mouth I am simply going by what you say and trying to wriggle by bringing history into it wont work... how can a beliefe system which is exact in its meanings etc be up dated... there is no room for updating.. there is no question of room for improvement Christinity is a faith entire of its self ...and makes its self perfectly clear ..I am the way the truth and the life .....if any man believeth in me...etc .. at no point doe it say.. whoops ive made a mistake so I am going to send another prophet to start another religion.. You said yourself that the Bible was written by man and that all truth was not included because man discarded some of that truth. God doesn't make mistakes. There is a time and a place for everything.!!!
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