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Post by Wonder Woman on Apr 30, 2010 23:26:51 GMT -5
They do call Alzheimer'sd and similar dementias The Happy Disease because you are not aware of what you have. I'm not sure I agree that they're 'happy' diseases because way before you're totally unaware you're quite aware.
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Post by gabriel on May 1, 2010 1:47:55 GMT -5
Parents who have a child specifically to help save the life of a sibling who has a rare bone disease, blood disease, genetic disorder. Conceived specifically to be a donor for the afflicted child. Who will probably be operated on as a child with no say in the decision or perhaps too young to understand what is happening.
I'm not sure how I'd feel being brought into existence simply to save someone else's life or improve the quality of their life. I think I'd have a tough time believing good old Mum'n'Dad really had my best interests at heart.
Anyway, my deep and meaningful for the day.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2010 7:53:23 GMT -5
Lin and I were in a situation when she was pregnant with our first child where the doctor told her that our son would be born with a number of genetic defects. These included spina bifida occulta, learning difficulties, dyspraxia and some other problems. He advised her to have an abortion and she refused.
It would have been worse if we had known nothing of the problems ahead because at least it allowed us to plan for them and mentally gear up.
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Post by iamjumbo on May 1, 2010 9:26:18 GMT -5
This is only my second post, so I don't want to get in too deep. My brother-in-law has been in the hospital this week, he has a dradful genetic disease that results in premature dementia, he's only just turned 50, but the disease is now effecting other parts of his body, and he's not doing so well. It usually strikes adults around middle age. He has two daughters that have a 50% chance of having inherited this disorder. So my question, if you were my nieces, would you want to be tested to see if you have this disease, or is it better not to know? Unlike chef, I would not want to know, I would say live life to the full. As there's no cure the best plan is to have an exit strategy worked out - just in case its needed. i trust that you wouldn't be advocating the coward's way out as an exit strategy
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Post by fretslider on May 1, 2010 9:28:31 GMT -5
Unlike chef, I would not want to know, I would say live life to the full. As there's no cure the best plan is to have an exit strategy worked out - just in case its needed. i trust that you wouldn't be advocating the coward's way out as an exit strategy So when it gets too much choosing to end it is cowardly? Is the jumbo macho way to dribble and drool to the bitter end?
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Post by iamjumbo on May 1, 2010 9:36:21 GMT -5
Lin and I were in a situation when she was pregnant with our first child where the doctor told her that our son would be born with a number of genetic defects. These included spina bifida occulta, learning difficulties, dyspraxia and some other problems. He advised her to have an abortion and she refused. It would have been worse if we had known nothing of the problems ahead because at least it allowed us to plan for them and mentally gear up. forewarned is forearmed. you cannot fight something that you don't know. it is ALWAYS better to die fighting than to surrender.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2010 9:43:12 GMT -5
I entirely agree with you, Jim. I am a fighter by nature myself and would always prefer to struggle rather than give in!
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Post by iamjumbo on May 1, 2010 14:19:53 GMT -5
i trust that you wouldn't be advocating the coward's way out as an exit strategy So when it gets too much choosing to end it is cowardly? Is the jumbo macho way to dribble and drool to the bitter end? choosing to end it under ANY circumstance is cowardly. i have never lost. there have been too many times that i have been behind at the end of the game, but i have never lost. no matter how difficult anything might be, there is always at least a remote possiblity of prevailing, as long as you fight. those who are too cowardly to fight, will be carried out dribbling and drooling, you can bet that if i'm dribbling and drooling, it's because i'm rabid, and your azz is grassed. taking the coward's way out is the ultimate admission that you've been beaten, that you lost, and that simply is not an option, ever
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Post by iamjumbo on May 1, 2010 14:22:38 GMT -5
I entirely agree with you, Jim. I am a fighter by nature myself and would always prefer to struggle rather than give in! if you do have to go out, it is obviously better to go out in a blaze of glory than surrendering
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Post by fretslider on May 1, 2010 15:29:14 GMT -5
So when it gets too much choosing to end it is cowardly? Is the jumbo macho way to dribble and drool to the bitter end? choosing to end it under ANY circumstance is cowardly. i have never lost. there have been too many times that i have been behind at the end of the game, but i have never lost. no matter how difficult anything might be, there is always at least a remote possiblity of prevailing, as long as you fight. those who are too cowardly to fight, will be carried out dribbling and drooling, you can bet that if i'm dribbling and drooling, it's because i'm rabid, and your azz is grassed. taking the coward's way out is the ultimate admission that you've been beaten, that you lost, and that simply is not an option, ever That's fine, jumbo - if you don't give a stuff about those around you. If the prognosis is obvious and one has lost it, there is no shame in ending it. In fact some might argue that it is a brave man who chooses to end it, thus. PS I see you've got your avatar back!
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Post by Kay on May 1, 2010 17:46:17 GMT -5
So when it gets too much choosing to end it is cowardly? Is the jumbo macho way to dribble and drool to the bitter end? choosing to end it under ANY circumstance is cowardly. i have never lost. there have been too many times that i have been behind at the end of the game, but i have never lost. no matter how difficult anything might be, there is always at least a remote possiblity of prevailing, as long as you fight. those who are too cowardly to fight, will be carried out dribbling and drooling, you can bet that if i'm dribbling and drooling, it's because i'm rabid, and your azz is grassed. taking the coward's way out is the ultimate admission that you've been beaten, that you lost, and that simply is not an option, ever There are some things in life, over which we have no control, genetics being one of those things. You can rage against fate to a point, however, in the end, you are bound to lose.
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Post by Novak on May 1, 2010 21:13:10 GMT -5
If I had the chance to know the exact time and day that I would die, I would want to know. Then, I wouldn't be afraid to try things that can be seen as dangerous, and potentially life-threatening. I would actually be able to live life to the fullest until I die.
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Post by Wonder Woman on May 1, 2010 23:56:07 GMT -5
The problem I have with 'knowing' is that there is no guarantee you'll even make it far enough along in this walk to become diseased. Meanwhile you can spend your entire life worrying about something that ~ even if eventually it's going to change your life ~ may not because something else may just reach up and grab you first.
I think living life to the fullest is to live life as though each day may be the last one you have here, each moment precious. Then, everything's cake.
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Post by iamjumbo on May 2, 2010 6:29:03 GMT -5
choosing to end it under ANY circumstance is cowardly. i have never lost. there have been too many times that i have been behind at the end of the game, but i have never lost. no matter how difficult anything might be, there is always at least a remote possiblity of prevailing, as long as you fight. those who are too cowardly to fight, will be carried out dribbling and drooling, you can bet that if i'm dribbling and drooling, it's because i'm rabid, and your azz is grassed. taking the coward's way out is the ultimate admission that you've been beaten, that you lost, and that simply is not an option, ever That's fine, jumbo - if you don't give a stuff about those around you. If the prognosis is obvious and one has lost it, there is no shame in ending it. In fact some might argue that it is a brave man who chooses to end it, thus. PS I see you've got your avatar back! thanks to beth. i couldn't make the thing work to save my illustrious derriere quite the opposite. it is the thinking about your friends and family that require you to stick around for them. that is one of the things that makes the suicide trip so cowardly. it is the most selfish act that anyone can perform.
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Post by iamjumbo on May 2, 2010 6:32:27 GMT -5
choosing to end it under ANY circumstance is cowardly. i have never lost. there have been too many times that i have been behind at the end of the game, but i have never lost. no matter how difficult anything might be, there is always at least a remote possiblity of prevailing, as long as you fight. those who are too cowardly to fight, will be carried out dribbling and drooling, you can bet that if i'm dribbling and drooling, it's because i'm rabid, and your azz is grassed. taking the coward's way out is the ultimate admission that you've been beaten, that you lost, and that simply is not an option, ever There are some things in life, over which we have no control, genetics being one of those things. You can rage against fate to a point, however, in the end, you are bound to lose. the result of the battle at the alamo was a foregone conclusion. the battle at little big horn, thankfully, was a foregone conclusion. there was NO possiblity of there being any other ending. my point is that you just don't give up, on anything. if you die, you die fighting rather than cowering
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