Ugly is pretty good.

[gabriel]

health.ninemsn.com.au/healthnews/1063419/ugly-males-more-fertile-than-hunks

Ladies, good news if you partner's lacking in the looks department, he may be more fertile than a better-looking bloke, a new Australian study has found.

The theory is based on a study of tropical guppies, conducted at the University of Western Australia by Professor Jonathan Evans. The vibrant-coloured fish were chosen for this study as they have two types of mating, "courtship" displays (conducted by the handsome fish) and "sneak" mating (done by the average-looking fish).

In the study, the colourful, more attractive male fish who courted their mate were found to have poorer sperm quality than the average-looking males, which is nature's "trade-off" between characteristics than enable the male to reproduce, Professor Evans said.

This supports the theory of "sperm competition", Professor Evans said, where females mate with several males and the partner with the fastest-swimming sperm fathers the offspring.

"Males that predominantly performed sneak matings were less ornamented but had faster-swimming sperm than those that predominantly used courtship," Professor Evans wrote in Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences.

"The reproductive advantage enjoyed by attractive males might potentially be offset by the poor performance of their ejaculates during sperm competition."

Oh yeah. Bite me, Brad Pitt.

[sadie]

Oh yes......bite me...Brad Pitt........please!!!

Hmmmm.........do you think we mean that the same way?

[iamjumbo]

Jun 4, 2010 17:09:28 GMT -5 sadie said:

Oh yes......bite me...Brad Pitt........please!!!

Hmmmm.........do you think we mean that the same way?

i doubt it. you'd like to have the lad bite you in a different place than gabe would

[gabriel]

Oh no sadie. I don't want pitt within spitting distance of me. But I'm flying the flag for the ordinary guy. I mean, without us, who would even notice pitt?

Mind you, I just don't get it about him. I think he's pussy whipped by that chick he runs around after.

The average, ordinary looking guppy that sneaks in and gets happy while the poser is showing off his muscles.

Oh yeah. Too late, mate. Race has already been run. One satisfied (hopefully) partner, one guppy with a smile on his face...

Sweet.

[sadie]

You know......I always had some basic rules about any guy I was going to date........never wanted to date a guy that I thought spent more time getting ready than me.......or a guy that would pass a mirror and have to look at himself in it........or never wanted to date a guy that it looked like I won him in a raffle.

[Erasmus]

Reminds me of a greetings card showing a peacock in full display with two peahens in the front saying "Never mind all that, show us your willy"

Apart from the Rich & Famous who in any case tend to imagine a fortnight's relationship deep and meaningful and a year's marriage worth a Nobel Prize, does conventional beauty matter so much for women either? Often the closest couples and most lasting relationships draw comments about not understanding what they see in each other and while it may be commoner for men to be plug-ugly (because it often looks more macho) the women also are rarely any great beauty, but they do have in character what it takes.

What it takes round here tends to be the ability to scream threats worthy of the Spanish Inquisition at three kids without removing the fag from one's mouth while feeding them on what remains of the dole money once essentials like two packets of fags, a half bottle of vodka and a crate of Bud, virulent pink nail varnish shared with the eldest daughter, the Bingo Money and subscription TV channels have all been taken into account. In more upmarket districts such as I used to live in, the monetary criteria have more to do with fashion, mortgage and running the car.

However, what these women show is toughness and capability, more than prettiness or even conventional beauty, which tends to regard evidence of either ability or toughness much like cellulite. From the man's point of view, these are women he can rely on to pull their weight instead of adding dead weight running their life as well as his own with a pretty smile and more maintenance to keep it that way than a veteran car.

Beauty of a certain kind often mistaken for childishness because female features are 'childish' compared to male (so are Oriental to Occidental of either sex) may well appeal when young as showing health and fertility but once a bit older, in practice when it comes to the relationships that develop beyond fun & games, it is not necessarily the lookers who get preference except from rich men looking for a pet.

[gabriel]

Thoughtful post. Thanks. I don't know any outstandingly beautiful people. Well, I certainly don't remember meeting any. I know women I'd class as goodlooking and blokes women would go gooey over but model attractive? Never in my experience. I know ordinary, everyday people who might have a good smile, good female bits, great personality, guys who beef up, whatever.

I don't think ugly is Shrek ugly - it's just being ordinary looking. And let's face it, there are more of us than the models. If human evolution relied on looks, woow - we'd be dead in the water.

So I say go ordinary guppy - get in there and get the job done. Then wipe that smile off your face.

[gabriel]

And while I've been cruising, (no pun intended)I've come upon this.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1285444/Not-tonight-dear-Im-fat-Three-women-say-fretting-bodies-spoiling-love-lives.html

Not tonight dear, I'm fat: Three in four women say fretting about their bodies is spoiling their love lives
By Fiona Macrae
Last updated at 9:37 AM on 10th June 2010



The modern woman may be increasingly confident in the boardroom, but when it comes to the bedroom, it seems she is still racked with insecurities.
Almost three in four young women say that worries about wobbly thighs and tummies cast a black cloud over their love lives, a study shows.
Among the 73 per cent who doubt themselves, some fear they are not voluptuous enough; others that they have too many curves. Those who are mothers confessed that fretting about stretch marks can also mar nights of passion.

Pam Spurr, a sex expert and life coach, said that women can't help but feel they don't shape up given that modern society bombards them with images of ultra-glamorous models and actresses.
Dr Spurr said: 'Women take their body image to heart. But it is an awful lot of pain for nothing because her husband or partner won't be focusing on her body the way she is.
'Most men aren't thinking about the lumps and bumps, they are thinking about the pleasure.' ;D

Almost half of the women polled put sense of humour top of the list of what they look for in a man. Shared values were also deemed more important than looks or money.

What are you? Ordinary. What are you going to do? Whatever she wants. ;D

[Erasmus]

You could put that as women continuing to believe that all men care about is looks, so that is all they need to offer. It used to be the same for men too (or at least boys), that all women cared about was big muscles and plenty of money to keep them in the style to which they'd fantasized being accustomed.

It does seem as if things have gone backwards since 1980 and women want that again (even if under slightly different circumstances for themselves) but that is probably the result of aging and old revolutionaries just wanting to put their feet up and the reaction of spoilt brats against being expected to relate to men as equal friends instead of traditionally paying for the privilege of being allowed to serve - with women who accepted/respected men as equals damned as sluts and sex objects for ever and a day.

Every generation of women tells its daughters that men demand {their own fantasy that only the men they respect appreciate} and finds every way to put women down who simply relate to men as equal friends who may well express their friendship physically and enjoy sex games for each other without the traditional oo-er slut sex object condemnation that the older generation always assumes, whether they actually despise their 'lovers' or respect them as friends and equals exactly as they would their own sex.