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Post by markindurham on Dec 9, 2012 6:12:21 GMT -5
interesting things happening in Hamburg "Islam Needs a Fair Chance in Germany" The most controversial part involves a commitment by the city government to promote the teaching of Islam in the Hamburg pubic school system. The agreement grants the leaders of Hamburg's Muslim communities a determinative say in what will be taught by allowing them to develop the teaching curriculum for Islamic studies. Muslim officials will also be able to determine who will (and will not) be allowed to teach courses about Islam in city schools -- meaning that only Muslims will be allowed to teach Islam. Muslims, for their part, are hoping the Hamburg treaty will establish a precedent for the rest of Germany to follow Thin end of the wedge, eh?
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Post by mouse on Dec 10, 2012 2:44:50 GMT -5
nah...the thin emd happened years ago...this is the begining of the settling in period..asserting rights..laying down the rules ..preparing the way its not about integration but about difference and making that difference work on their rules not german rules the next 20 yrs should be very interesting...and lets remeber germany has a large right wing who are increasingly unhappy
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Post by markindurham on Dec 10, 2012 3:40:51 GMT -5
nah...the thin emd happened years ago...this is the begining of the settling in period..asserting rights..laying down the rules ..preparing the way its not about integration but about difference and making that difference work on their rules not german rules the next 20 yrs should be very interesting...and lets remeber germany has a large right wing who are increasingly unhappy The German 'right wing' are, shall we say, more 'enthusiastic' than ours . As you say, it should be ,<ahem>, 'interesting'...
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Post by mouse on Dec 11, 2012 4:04:06 GMT -5
nah...the thin emd happened years ago...this is the begining of the settling in period..asserting rights..laying down the rules ..preparing the way its not about integration but about difference and making that difference work on their rules not german rules the next 20 yrs should be very interesting...and lets remeber germany has a large right wing who are increasingly unhappy The German 'right wing' are, shall we say, more 'enthusiastic' than ours . As you say, it should be ,<ahem>, 'interesting'... i shall in all probability not be here to watch the the end fight for supremacy.. but one thing of which i am 100% sure is it wont end pleasantly...... the scene is set and the players are gathering...the end however is difficult to acess...much will depend on how many go to the dark side..... which of course is what happened all over the mid east .... and we know who the winner was in that...but what price winning??? poverty..illiteracy..mysogeny and violence welcome to the brave new world where all must submit
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 19:20:07 GMT -5
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
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Post by markindurham on Dec 12, 2012 2:49:28 GMT -5
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! I'm with you there - when it does all properly kick off it's not going to be pretty, that's for sure
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Post by mouse on Dec 12, 2012 3:46:30 GMT -5
we have had in western europe..two thousand years of civilisation[with a few hicups]...2,000 yrs of law..books...music and we apear to be going backwards to where we started off is it really all going to crumble because of a halluciating fitting desert dweller of the 7th century...though some times when looking at the crimes committed ..the viciousness and barbarity in society i wonder if we have progressed at alll
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 12:07:10 GMT -5
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! I'm with you there - when it does all properly kick off it's not going to be pretty, that's for sure I shouldhave given credit to Patrick Henry for that quote when we decided to fight the British but the remark still rings true today for people in various lands......it's just a shame the liberals cannot see what they are doing to destroy our Western civilization.
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Post by markindurham on Dec 15, 2012 12:44:48 GMT -5
I'm with you there - when it does all properly kick off it's not going to be pretty, that's for sure I shouldhave given credit to Patrick Henry for that quote when we decided to fight the British but the remark still rings true today for people in various lands...... it's just a shame the liberals cannot see what they are doing to destroy our Western civilization. Quite so - and the ironic thing is that it will be they who are 'first up against the wall', but they can't see that
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Post by mouse on Dec 16, 2012 3:12:38 GMT -5
ah yes the liberals...so liberal they wish to destroy every thing in their pursuit of liberality.... i have no objections to them being first against the wall...as long as those ILliberals who also foisted their will are 2nd to be against the wall ie the blairs..browns,,cambells etc along with the social workers etc who have deliberately done so much harm to so many people like the weakling milliband who was spouting about one nation the other day... we had one nation untill he and his oiks decided to shatter it and like humpty dumpty it will never be put back together again milliband and others including the liberalista......should be a lesson for us all... be careful what you wish for...as your wish just might be granted blair want to ruin the country and be a rich man...mmm...he got his wish and now he has to have a body guard and there are those whose one desire is to see him pay the price for his wish
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Post by mouse on Dec 17, 2012 7:39:30 GMT -5
Blast kills ten girls as they collect firewood near Afghan village Girls aged between 9 and 11 years caught in horror morning explosion Two others were seriously injured and are in critical condition in hospital May have been a bomb planted by Taliban insurgents or a landmine And in Pakistan 17 people have been killed and more than 70 hurt in a car bomb attack Ten girls have been killed as they were collecting firewood outside their village in Nangarhar province in eastern Afghanistan. The victims, aged between nine and 11 years old, were all from different families and two other girls were seriously injured and are in critical condition in hospital. It was not immediately clear what caused the explosion - it could have been a bomb planted by Taliban insurgents or a landmine left over from decades of conflict. Meanwhile 17 people have been killed and more than 70 hurt in a car bomb attack on a market in the Khyber tribal area in north-west Pakistan Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249279/Blast-kills-10-Afghan-girls-collecting-firewood.html#ixzz2FJQS50bv Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Post by Shirina on Dec 18, 2012 16:36:42 GMT -5
I sincerely hope you're referring to British liberals exclusively. If you are including American liberals in your little tirade, you and I are likely to be at very strong odds with each other.
I have no patience left with the morally bankrupt ideology of American conservatism. I'm not all that familiar with British conservatism, but based on what I have read, it is nearly as banrkupt as the American variety.
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Post by men an tol on Dec 18, 2012 20:51:53 GMT -5
In posting # 712 Chefmate, your comment, “ . . . I shouldhave given credit to Patrick Henry for that quote when we decided to fight the British but the remark still rings true today for people in various lands......it's just a shame the liberals cannot see what they are doing to destroy our Western civilization. . . “ is quite true. Here I am assuming that you are speaking not of the Classical-Liberals of the 1880s but rather of the Progressive-Liberals of today which are more akin to Progressive-Socialists.
The foundations of the Individual as Sovereign resulting in Individual Freedom and Individual Rights are becoming overshadowed by intrusive government operating in an extra-constitutional fashion as described and promoted by President Wilson. If the current path of Progressive-Liberal dominated government actions continue the rights of the Individual will be constrained to the point that such rights as exist will be so only at the will of the national government.
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Post by Shirina on Dec 19, 2012 1:06:16 GMT -5
Most "progressive-liberals" only want what the rest of the civilized world already has.
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Post by mouse on Dec 19, 2012 8:54:35 GMT -5
Most "progressive-liberals" only want what the rest of the civilized world already has. which is what a continual fight to retain the freedom to speak......the so called civilised world is a mass of contradictions...bullying and lies with a small[very small] nod to the word democracy which actually doesnt exist any more than multiculture does
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