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Post by ladylinda on Aug 7, 2014 14:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by mouse on Aug 8, 2014 2:24:28 GMT -5
So, doesn't the U.N. have a way to air drop provisions ... especially water? 40,000 people seem sugnificant enough to go to a little trouble. the UN is far to busy condeming Israel to worry about a small detail of people starving/dying of thirst because of the actions of their fellow believers.....[especially those from countries who do not PAY THEIR un dues]empty vessals make the loudest noise.. demand the most....and show the greatest hypocracy. not before time the BBC actually had an item about this on last nights news..but only because Obama is taking some action
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Post by mouse on Aug 8, 2014 4:12:16 GMT -5
the same news from a different source www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-takes-iraqs-largest-christian-town-of-qaraqosh-9653789.htmlIsis takes Iraq’s largest Christian town as residents told – 'leave, convert or die' Tens of thousands of terrified people have been displaced as Christians flee Qaraqosh Christians from the town of Qaraqosh were fleeing today after it was taken by fighters from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) on Wednesday night. The town had previously been a safe haven for those fleeing Mosul and for those hoping Christianity had a future in the country. “Before we thought we could stay. But now, there is no way Christians can go back to Iraq,” says Abu Maykel, a 29-year-old clerk who fled the village last week. He hoped he could maybe remain in his ancestral homeland, but had to reconsider when Isis started to close in on Qaraqosh, a Christian village of 50,000 people. The town had been cut off from water and electricity ever since Isis took Mosul. Food had been hard to come by and distant shelling constant, but he remained and to back up the mails story www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-takes-iraqs-largest-christian-town-of-qaraqosh-9653789.html
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Post by ladylinda on Aug 8, 2014 9:03:13 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting that when I post a series of items about how MUSLIMS are CONDEMNING Hamas and trying to DO something to stop them my posts are met with a deafening silence?
People obviously prefer to believe their comforting propaganda rather than the truth!
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Post by markindurham on Aug 8, 2014 10:53:15 GMT -5
So, where are the marches through Londonistan? Where are the widely publicised on line petitions? Where are the speeches broadcast on national TV from leading mullahs & imams? Nobody would deny that a few folk are prepared to put their lives at risk, as per assorted links, but the point is that it is only a tiny minority prepared to stand up and speak out, so either the rest are cowed by the threat of violence being directed against them, or by their silence they condone it. Until we see evidence of large scale protests it is difficult to take any opposition seriously. Fact.
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Aug 8, 2014 12:21:49 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting that when I post a series of items about how MUSLIMS are CONDEMNING Hamas and trying to DO something to stop them my posts are met with a deafening silence? People obviously prefer to believe their comforting propaganda rather than the truth! I've been busy.
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Post by Jessiealan on Aug 8, 2014 13:45:46 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting that when I post a series of items about how MUSLIMS are CONDEMNING Hamas and trying to DO something to stop them my posts are met with a deafening silence? People obviously prefer to believe their comforting propaganda rather than the truth! I've been busy. What kind of response did you want, Lin. It was good you posted those links showing some Muslim people are not in favor of the extremists, but I did not know you did it with any kind of expectations except to provide the information. My response would be, "Good for them.". It will take many many more moderates and even then the extremists would kill them if they could. It does not stop the rabid animals who believe it is their duty to rid the world of those who do not agree with them.
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Post by Jessiealan on Aug 8, 2014 13:47:26 GMT -5
the UN is far to busy condeming Israel to worry about a small detail of people starving/dying of thirst because of the actions of their fellow believers.....[especially those from countries who do not PAY THEIR un dues]empty vessals make the loudest noise.. demand the most....and show the greatest hypocracy. not before time the BBC actually had an item about this on last nights news..but only because Obama is taking some action Good for Obama! I applaud his efforts. Don't you?
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Post by mouse on Aug 9, 2014 3:06:20 GMT -5
am not sure quite where I stand on this..but one thing I do know is to let 40,000 people die of thirst/heat/starvation would be a terrible thing to do...and that we[people/anyone] have to at least try to help them...yet in solving one problem we create another the only problem is that in responding to this atrocity..it could well lead to even greater involvement and yet another war...and yet more deaths and cruelties....what about all the others and what about those who already in our countries who would support this mass murder and consider a job well done? as humans one to the other we have a duty of care....but does that duty of care mean we have to cut our own throats the most logical thing to do would be to exchange people...the victims in this case could come here and all those who support the caphilate could take their place....
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Post by ladylinda on Aug 11, 2014 15:49:41 GMT -5
It was interesting to see on the ITV news this evening at 6.30 that the newsreaders and reporters were using words like 'evil' to describe ISIS and quite rightly so.
They are scum and however unenthusiastic we might feel about the Iraqi government compared to the ISIS mob they're heavenly angels.
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Post by mouse on Aug 13, 2014 3:16:08 GMT -5
they are also using the term Islamists[WONDERS WILL NEVER CEASE]...so far haven't heard the word muslim on BBC
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Aug 16, 2014 6:05:14 GMT -5
'Ello, 'ello, 'ello...
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Post by mouse on Aug 16, 2014 6:56:19 GMT -5
is one allowed to ask why? ?and its this drip drip drip which is causing the problems...why are these people not answerable as all other groups are..just who is pulling the strings...and why why why... am not really into conspiracy theories...but these people are not getting such a free ride for nothing...so why and who and what is behind this...it obviously goes right to the top...but which top the faceless ones who pull the strings obviously a person or persons with considerable power...who can order our police and politos to act in their but not ou interests it surely cannot be as simple as votes or public unrest
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 10:42:33 GMT -5
I don't know if this helps or not and it's only one opinion of a young man in Pakistan but I did put the question to him:
so many people wonder why Muslims who don't support ISIS remain quiet in the media or does the media not cover their viewpoint?
Muslim have no media no voice no contrl no agenda no unity no no no no
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Post by markindurham on Aug 17, 2014 11:01:23 GMT -5
I don't know if this helps or not and it's only one opinion of a young man in Pakistan but I did put the question to him: so many people wonder why Muslims who don't support ISIS remain quiet in the media or does the media not cover their viewpoint? Muslim have no media no voice no contrl no agenda no unity no no no no A few years ago I might have accepted this, but in this world of global communications I'm afraid that that excuse doesn't fly any more. OK, some countries like Pakistan might well have control of the web in their own back yards, but across Europe? The USA? Many parts of Asia? The silence is deafening.
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