Why no deal on Brexit ?

[toby1]

A Deal looks impossible to achieve so the UK will start trading on WTO Terms, we could have done this 4 years ago but No, the moneymen in the City wanted their favourable terms and sod the rest of the UK.

""The EU insists that robust enforceable level playing field guarantees on tax, state aid, labour laws and the environment will protect their businesses from unfair competition and are the price for the zero tariff, zero quota market access on offer.

Ireland's deputy prime minister Leo Varadkar said that the EU needed to know the "the UK isn't going to undercut us on standards."

"Is Boris Johnson willing to make concessions in those areas? I think he probably is," he said, "I think his natural instincts are actually much closer to the more liberal London mayor that he was than the more conservative Brexiteer."

A meeting between Mr Johnson and Mr Varadkar in Cheshire last year led to a compromise over the Irish border backstop and paved the way for the ratification of the Withdrawal Agreement.

Mr Varadkar said "any set of level playing field rules, would have to be ones that the UK wouldn't feel are imposed on them."

He said, "I think where the sovereignty piece comes in and that will be a circle that's going to be hard to square."""

The British voted to regain sovereignty and that is what Boris has to sort out, he cannot do a half-sovereignty or a quarter sovereignty because the British would not accept this.  All the faffing around means that the UK was financially punished for trying for the deal which the EU would never agree to for if they gave the UK a deal then others would leave and want the same deal, it's not rocket science  but it is four wasted years and in those four years we could have done a deal with the USA as well as Australia, Canada etc. Now it will start from zero with a lot of grief

[toby1]

It does seem that the fool Macron who has a tenuous grip on power in France is the person who scuppered a Brexit deal because he continued to DEMAND access for French Fishermen into UK Territorial waters after December 31st.
You cannot ,"demand", such access, not from a Sovereign state ! The UK was prepared to allow certain numbers of foreign fishermen to fish in UK waters, on Our terms of course but it seems the Frogs lost even that.
This is a good example of how a little person with lots of power can fuck things up for his Countrymenn, now the French Fishermen will have to find jobs stacking shelves, cleaning sewers, or other meaningful toil !

[ladylinda]

Very simple; the EU can't bear to move an inch a) because they are authoritarian bastards; b) because they're terrified of a Frexit, Nexit, Grexit, Irexit, Polexit and so on. They think if they make a single concession to us other countries will want to follow our example and leave the pigsty.

Rule Britannia! God Save the Queen!

Großbritannien wach!

[toby1]

I agree with you but I reckon we should have made a clean break four years ago then we would now have got sorted out.
The EU were never going to give us a good deal because as you say, if we got a good deal then others would go down the same road.

[ladylinda]

Yes, I always favoured us getting out at once on WTO terms. Theresa May cost us a lot of wasted time.

[mouse]

at least we now know who some of the treacherous are.. those who are still running to the EU even now....Khan being one of them.. what a foul little oik he is.. and the so called supreeme court idiots....its also verynclear that even having left the eu fascistts will continue to do their best to damage us every which way......the very best thing we can do is be sucessful.... oh and they wont like that one little euro.. Drachma.. or Franc

[ladylinda]

Frankly, Saddo Khant is a complete slimeball. I didn't vote for him last time and I won't next time either.