toby1
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Post by toby1 on Sept 3, 2020 15:22:04 GMT -5
3 September is a black day for the bovine world, nearly six thousand healthy cows were drowned after an old tub of a boat capsized after being swamped by a wave in the sea near Japan. One human survivor was pulled to safety by the Nippon Coastguard. These cow carrier vessels mostly have flat bottoms, this for large carrying capacity but the massive disadvantage of flat bottomed ships is that once they heel they are gone, a round bottomed boat can recover but not a flat bottomed boat. It is not anticipated that any cows would have survived and nobody will be lighting candles for them or holding vigils.
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Post by fretslider on Sept 4, 2020 4:36:48 GMT -5
3 September is a black day for the bovine world, nearly six thousand healthy cows were drowned after an old tub of a boat capsized after being swamped by a wave in the sea near Japan. One human survivor was pulled to safety by the Nippon Coastguard. These cow carrier vessels mostly have flat bottoms, this for large carrying capacity but the massive disadvantage of flat bottomed ships is that once they heel they are gone, a round bottomed boat can recover but not a flat bottomed boat. It is not anticipated that any cows would have survived and nobody will be lighting candles for them or holding vigils.
Quite naturally, bovines are bovvered. |
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josephdphillips
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Post by josephdphillips on Sept 6, 2020 10:42:42 GMT -5
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Post by fretslider on Sept 7, 2020 7:17:35 GMT -5
I haven't read the book yet, but I am well aware of the ructions going on on planet Green. First there was Michael Moore’s Planet of the Humans, then came Bjorn Lomborg’s False Alarm, and now Michael Schellenberger’s Apocalypse Never. All three authors sound the common theme that the hyper-green environmental activists who have captured, politicized, and monetized the concern for the environment have, as Lomborg explains, created a false climate alarm which has “costs us trillions, hurts the poor, and fails to fix the planet.” To varying degrees, all three authors come from a strong environmental activist background, which observation makes their public revelations even more noteworthy.
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So here are three environmentalists with different degrees of eco-activism in their past, but all now willing to speak out against the incessant climate propaganda of human-related guilt, the purveyors of anxiety, and the poisoners of childhood joy and wonder. Climate change is the norm; it is not mankind’s original sin. The readers here are encouraged to read the works of these climate realists.wattsupwiththat.com/2020/06/27/a-winning-trifecta-for-climate-science-and-rationality/How did the media react to these defections? Well, they're heretics now; deniers. Climate experts call for 'dangerous' Michael Moore film to be taken downwww.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/28/climate-dangerous-documentary-planet-of-the-humans-michael-moore-taken-downExperts? Michael Mann, Josh (film maker) Fox, Bill McKibben ad nauseam Activists. False Alarm by Bjorn Lomborg; Apocalypse Never by Michael Shellenberger – review
Two prominent ‘lukewarmers’ take climate science denial to another levelwww.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/09/false-alarm-by-bjorn-lomborg-apocalypse-never-by-michael-shellenberger-review |
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josephdphillips
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Post by josephdphillips on Sept 7, 2020 12:30:30 GMT -5
What surprised me in reading Shellenberger's book was his cogent, compelling argument that "renewables" actually produce more carbon emissions and are more harmful to the environment than fossil fuels.
That's because the "renewables" are so unreliable conventionally-generated electricity is needed to fill in the gaps, and because large amounts of fossil-fueled energy is required to extract the ores for the photovoltaic components of solar panels.
The nutters promoting environmental apocalypse are neo-Malthusians and neo-Platonists who seek a return to preindustrial civilization.
They actually see energy consumption of any kind as a bad thing.
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Post by fretslider on Sept 8, 2020 4:20:14 GMT -5
What surprised me in reading Shellenberger's book was his cogent, compelling argument that "renewables" actually produce more carbon emissions and are more harmful to the environment than fossil fuels. That's because the "renewables" are so unreliable conventionally-generated electricity is needed to fill in the gaps, and because large amounts of fossil-fueled energy is required to extract the ores for the photovoltaic components of solar panels. The nutters promoting environmental apocalypse are neo-Malthusians and neo-Platonists who seek a return to preindustrial civilization. They actually see energy consumption of any kind as a bad thing. To be a green you need to be able to do some neat mental gymnastics. Wind turbines need a lot of concrete and steel etc. You need coal to make those. Then there's the problem of hooking them up to the grid and that isn't cheap, either. Wind and solar have a common dirty secret in the mining of cobalt and lithium, using [black] child labour. California wised up I see and decided to keep it's spinning Gas reserve going for a few more years. If renewables worked there would have been no need. And California has a lot of sun. Worst of all is the ecological damage they do. But they have a plan for saving the many thousands of bats and birds that are killed by windfarms “The initial reports, at least, from Duke Energy on their Identiflight technology to detect eagles and shut down wind turbines near flying eagles sounds promising.”www.wind-watch.org/news/2018/09/09/wind-turbines-kill-birds-and-bats/So, one minute it's producing some electricity and then it has to shut down because there is a bird nearby. How long will it be shut down for? What kind of commercial concern could run like that - without huge subsidies? Then there's the furnace at Ivanpah where you can watch the birds ignite and leave smoke trails as they burn and fall. No fossil fuelled plants, not even nuclear, can match that. |
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