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Post by fretslider on Jun 1, 2020 7:35:31 GMT -5
Norway's PM admits she panicked and closed all schools and nurseries 'out of fear' on day country recorded first Covid death - amid criticism lockdown measures made no difference Norway's Prime Minister has admitted that she took the decision to close down schools amid the coronavirus pandemic 'out of fear'. The country's leader Erna Solberg took to Norweigian television on Wednesday to admit that she had panicked while imposing the strict lockdown measures and but made the decision as a 'precautionary' move. During an interview with state broadcaster NRK, the politician said: 'Was it necessary to close schools? Maybe not. But at the same time, I think it was the right thing to do at the time. Based on the information we had, we took a precautionary strategy.' ... 'I probably took many of the decisions out of fear. Worst case scenarios became controlling, and we kept thinking; ''how can we be a leader?'' ... The Prime Minister's comments come just weeks after Camilla Stoltenberg, the director-general of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health (NIPH) said the country could have achieved the same effects by 'not locking down'. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8373857/Norways-PM-admits-closed-schools-nurseries-fear.htmlMeanwhile the health Nazis in Britain doubled down. Scientific advisers to the government have warned of the risk of lifting the lockdown in England. Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust and a member of Sage, said on Twitter that Covid-19 is "spreading too fast to lift lockdown in England" www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52858392Why do these people insist on continuing a policy that, as the Norwegian premier admits, does nothing other than destroy the economy? Join the dots. The Wellcome Trust: Our founder, Sir Henry Wellcome, was a medical entrepreneur, collector and philanthropist. How we work today reflects the breadth of his interests, and his conviction that health can be improved when research generates, tests and investigates new ideas. Our governance is based on an updated version of Henry’s will. Today, we have a £26.8 billion investment portfolio which funds all the work we do. wellcome.ac.uk/about-usJeremy Farrar: Dr Jeremy Farrar, Director of the Wellcome Trust, said: "Climate change is an urgent threat to global health. wellcome.ac.uk/news/wellcome-trust-reaction-paris-agreement-climate-changeYes he, like most of the government's academic advisors, is a member of the climate change fraternity. Wedded to the idea of de-development as outlined by the Ehrlichs and Dr John Holdren. That's why they want to double down on the lockdown. Every day delayed means more unknown numbers of businesses going to the wall, people being made unemployed. And lower carbon dioxide emissions. I doubt Plantae will appreciate that much. I know people despairing of how they can pay their rent/mortgage and child costs certainly won't. At least the Norwegians 'fessed up to the mistake. |
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Post by Jessiealan on Jun 1, 2020 9:18:26 GMT -5
If I were a leader in one of these countries, I believe I would shut-down, at least until I had statistics I could work with and an idea of the predictions of those in charge of the health services. It's a matter of responsibility. Those in leadership roles cannot always do what they WANT to do but must use caution.
Better safe than sorry.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 1, 2020 13:02:40 GMT -5
That is an irrational, stupid and ignorant attitude. We can't rest the fate of nations on the tunnel vision of elitist bureaucrats and quack doctors. We'd have been far better off letting the virus run its natural course. |
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Post by mouse on Jun 1, 2020 17:07:06 GMT -5
not too sure the herd immunity will work quickly enough with this virus... have a feeling it will be around for a while yet....Germany has deaths rising,, not greatly but still rising,, and while the peak may have been reached in London it hant peaked in Manchester or Leeds... but it will be what it will be until a vaccine is found although its hope over expectation
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Post by Dex on Jun 2, 2020 10:07:31 GMT -5
That is an irrational, stupid and ignorant attitude. We can't rest the fate of nations on the tunnel vision of elitist bureaucrats and quack doctors. We'd have been far better off letting the virus run its natural course. Easy to say, Joe, but I bet you wouldn't say that if your family had been part of the victims. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 2, 2020 11:05:16 GMT -5
That is an irrational, stupid and ignorant attitude. We can't rest the fate of nations on the tunnel vision of elitist bureaucrats and quack doctors. We'd have been far better off letting the virus run its natural course. Easy to say, Joe, but I bet you wouldn't say that if your family had been part of the victims. Yes, I still would say it's a stupid, irrational argument, notwithstanding any risk to my family members. If anything, I am the one family member most at risk. My son is a victim of the economic shutdown, and his life expectancy is reduced as a result. He is worried a lot more about that than about an extremely mild virus. |
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Post by Dex on Jun 3, 2020 11:58:07 GMT -5
Easy to say, Joe, but I bet you wouldn't say that if your family had been part of the victims. Yes, I still would say it's a stupid, irrational argument, notwithstanding any risk to my family members. If anything, I am the one family member most at risk. My son is a victim of the economic shutdown, and his life expectancy is reduced as a result. He is worried a lot more about that than about an extremely mild virus. All the best to your son Joe, but it does not appear to be a mild virus to me. When hundreds of thousands of people die over 4 or 5 months from a virus, it's serious enough to lock down and try to get rid of it. Then there's the point that Donald Trump doesn't care about anything except his own popularity and thast is pretty disgusting in and of itself. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Jun 3, 2020 13:21:05 GMT -5
All the best to your son Joe, but it does not appear to be a mild virus to me. When hundreds of thousands of people die over 4 or 5 months from a virus, it's serious enough to lock down and try to get rid of it. No, it's not, not by a factor of a hundred. Nothing justifies destroying the economy for decades to come. Then there's the point that Donald Trump doesn't care about anything except his own popularity and thast is pretty disgusting in and of itself. Trump has nothing do with what Democrat governors are doing to their captive populations. The tragedy is that social "distancing" hasn't worked, and will never work, because people refuse to do it. So the shutdowns are for nothing. |
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