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Post by fretslider on Oct 24, 2019 5:09:15 GMT -5
Or Groundhog (day) forever
The arguing goes on and round in circles we go. The Zombie parliament will not die - easily.
Corbyn, like Johnson, wants an early election - has he not seen the polls? - his MPs definitely do not want an early election, they want a referendum; much safer they think. They've probably seen the polls, they've heard from their constituents.
Jeremy Corbyn is facing significant pressure from his own MPs to resist any government calls for an immediate general election
...
One Labour backbencher told the Guardian they believed up to half the parliamentary party could rebel if Corbyn decided to whip his MPs to support a motion seeking an election under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (FTPA).
Another MP described the opposition to an election within Labour as “very strong and widespread”. A party source added: “It’s fair to say there’s not a great appetite for an election in December.”
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/23/jeremy-corbyn-urged-by-mps-to-resist-calls-for-election
Under the Fixed Term Parliament Act (2011)...
The next general election will take place on 5th May 2022
Early parliamentary general elections
(1)An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
(a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (2), and
(b)if the motion is passed on a division, the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).
(2)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (1)(a) is—
“That there shall be an early parliamentary general election.”
(3)An early parliamentary general election is also to take place if—
(a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (4), and
(b)the period of 14 days after the day on which that motion is passed ends without the House passing a motion in the form set out in subsection (5).
(4)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(a) is—
“That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.”
(5)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(b) is—
“That this House has confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.”
(6)Subsection (7) applies for the purposes of the Timetable in rule 1 in Schedule 1 to the Representation of the People Act 1983.
(7)If a parliamentary general election is to take place as provided for by subsection (1) or (3), the polling day for the election is to be the day appointed by Her Majesty by proclamation on the recommendation of the Prime Minister (and, accordingly, the appointed day replaces the day which would otherwise have been the polling day for the next election determined under section 1).
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/14/section/2/enacted
Don'tcha just love the legalese
There isn't a two thirds majority in parliament as required by the act and nobody can decide on a possible caretaker, in the event of a no confidence motion passing.
If it did pass MPs have 14 days to choose a caretaker PM.
Johnson could bring a one line bill setting FTPA aside, but that would be open to amendments and.... he isn't going to go there.
There is one bizarre possibility: Boris Johnson could move a motion of no confidence in his own government but then the caretaker problem kicks in.
What a mess. Meanwhile we're waiting for the EU to decide what comes next.
The arguing goes on and round in circles we go. The Zombie parliament will not die - easily.
Corbyn, like Johnson, wants an early election - has he not seen the polls? - his MPs definitely do not want an early election, they want a referendum; much safer they think. They've probably seen the polls, they've heard from their constituents.
Jeremy Corbyn is facing significant pressure from his own MPs to resist any government calls for an immediate general election
...
One Labour backbencher told the Guardian they believed up to half the parliamentary party could rebel if Corbyn decided to whip his MPs to support a motion seeking an election under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (FTPA).
Another MP described the opposition to an election within Labour as “very strong and widespread”. A party source added: “It’s fair to say there’s not a great appetite for an election in December.”
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/23/jeremy-corbyn-urged-by-mps-to-resist-calls-for-election
Under the Fixed Term Parliament Act (2011)...
The next general election will take place on 5th May 2022
Early parliamentary general elections
(1)An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
(a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (2), and
(b)if the motion is passed on a division, the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).
(2)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (1)(a) is—
“That there shall be an early parliamentary general election.”
(3)An early parliamentary general election is also to take place if—
(a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (4), and
(b)the period of 14 days after the day on which that motion is passed ends without the House passing a motion in the form set out in subsection (5).
(4)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(a) is—
“That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.”
(5)The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(b) is—
“That this House has confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.”
(6)Subsection (7) applies for the purposes of the Timetable in rule 1 in Schedule 1 to the Representation of the People Act 1983.
(7)If a parliamentary general election is to take place as provided for by subsection (1) or (3), the polling day for the election is to be the day appointed by Her Majesty by proclamation on the recommendation of the Prime Minister (and, accordingly, the appointed day replaces the day which would otherwise have been the polling day for the next election determined under section 1).
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/14/section/2/enacted
Don'tcha just love the legalese
There isn't a two thirds majority in parliament as required by the act and nobody can decide on a possible caretaker, in the event of a no confidence motion passing.
If it did pass MPs have 14 days to choose a caretaker PM.
Johnson could bring a one line bill setting FTPA aside, but that would be open to amendments and.... he isn't going to go there.
There is one bizarre possibility: Boris Johnson could move a motion of no confidence in his own government but then the caretaker problem kicks in.
What a mess. Meanwhile we're waiting for the EU to decide what comes next.
