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Post by fretslider on Sept 4, 2019 4:57:16 GMT -5
No chance.
Boris Johnson lost the vote and now Parliament (House of Commons) will set about passing a law to prevent leaving the EU without a deal.
The EU isn't going to budge on the deal - which Parliament rejected three times. So we have the prospect of extending Article 50 ad infinitum. Effectively not leaving the EU, because we can never get a deal THIS Parliament will approve.
Boris Johnson is minded to move for an election, but he needs two thirds support in Parliament to get one. Now that the election Corbyn has been demanding for two years is in prospect he will refuse it until a no-deal scenario law is passed.
But there may still be trouble ahead...
From Guido Fawkes:
Guido can today reveal that pro-Governemnt forces in the House of Lords have a comprehensive, co-ordinated plan to prevent Hilary Benn’s anti-No Deal ‘Surrender Bill’ from becoming law, in the likely event it is passed in the Commons this evening.
The Shadow Leader of the Lords yesterday proposed a Business Motion to change the conventions of the House of Lords preventing the bill being talked out and forcing it to be taken on Thursday and Friday. The motion includes the imposition of mechanisms such as time limits, alien to House of Lords convention. Pro-Government peers, however, have tabled 86 amendments to the Business Motion, each of which require two votes to be heard and dismissed…
The pro-Government plan will see the very motion intended to ease the passage of the Benn Bill become the roadblock to it being passed. Senior Lords sources inform Guido that the time it will take the upper chamber to hear and vote on each amendment, as its rules compel it to do, would take up continuous 24/7 sitting until Saturday. Only after then could the Remainers’ anti-No Deal Bill be put. The Tories are determined to not see the Prime Minister’s hands bound in these negotiations. They have a real chance of talking the bill out in the Lords before the earliest opportunity to prorogue Parliament presents itself on Monday morning…
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I have yet to meet someone who isn't thoroughly fed up with them and this.
Tonight’s vote by MPs to seize control of the parliamentary agenda in order to prevent a No Deal Brexit is not, as they claim, a wonderful assertion of parliamentary sovereignty against a dictatorial executive led by Boris Johnson.
No, it is an assertion of the political elite’s arrogant authority over the people. If MPs have seized power from anyone this evening, it is from us, the public, the millions who voted to leave the EU. This is not parliament vs the executive – this is parliament vs the people, and it opens up one of the greatest, most troublesome constitutional crises of modern times.
www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/03/today-was-a-very-dark-day-for-british-democracy/
It's time they learned that they work for us.
Boris Johnson lost the vote and now Parliament (House of Commons) will set about passing a law to prevent leaving the EU without a deal.
The EU isn't going to budge on the deal - which Parliament rejected three times. So we have the prospect of extending Article 50 ad infinitum. Effectively not leaving the EU, because we can never get a deal THIS Parliament will approve.
Boris Johnson is minded to move for an election, but he needs two thirds support in Parliament to get one. Now that the election Corbyn has been demanding for two years is in prospect he will refuse it until a no-deal scenario law is passed.
But there may still be trouble ahead...
From Guido Fawkes:
Guido can today reveal that pro-Governemnt forces in the House of Lords have a comprehensive, co-ordinated plan to prevent Hilary Benn’s anti-No Deal ‘Surrender Bill’ from becoming law, in the likely event it is passed in the Commons this evening.
The Shadow Leader of the Lords yesterday proposed a Business Motion to change the conventions of the House of Lords preventing the bill being talked out and forcing it to be taken on Thursday and Friday. The motion includes the imposition of mechanisms such as time limits, alien to House of Lords convention. Pro-Government peers, however, have tabled 86 amendments to the Business Motion, each of which require two votes to be heard and dismissed…
The pro-Government plan will see the very motion intended to ease the passage of the Benn Bill become the roadblock to it being passed. Senior Lords sources inform Guido that the time it will take the upper chamber to hear and vote on each amendment, as its rules compel it to do, would take up continuous 24/7 sitting until Saturday. Only after then could the Remainers’ anti-No Deal Bill be put. The Tories are determined to not see the Prime Minister’s hands bound in these negotiations. They have a real chance of talking the bill out in the Lords before the earliest opportunity to prorogue Parliament presents itself on Monday morning…
order-order.com/#_@/wJLubnJnb8s3yA
I have yet to meet someone who isn't thoroughly fed up with them and this.
Tonight’s vote by MPs to seize control of the parliamentary agenda in order to prevent a No Deal Brexit is not, as they claim, a wonderful assertion of parliamentary sovereignty against a dictatorial executive led by Boris Johnson.
No, it is an assertion of the political elite’s arrogant authority over the people. If MPs have seized power from anyone this evening, it is from us, the public, the millions who voted to leave the EU. This is not parliament vs the executive – this is parliament vs the people, and it opens up one of the greatest, most troublesome constitutional crises of modern times.
www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/03/today-was-a-very-dark-day-for-british-democracy/
It's time they learned that they work for us.
